― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:55 (eighteen years ago) link
rubbish, there are plenty of places that people class as 'bars' around our way with an abundent amount of old geezers hogging the corners of the bars.
obv brown carpet is the way to go.
― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Well yeah. The whole idea of wall-to-wall carpet dates from the 50's the the 70's, much less in pubs. That don't make it a good idea. From the 50's to the 70's, wall-to-wall carpet was sometimes even seen in bathrooms. People went goddamn carpet crazy.
Pubs smell romantic and sickly. And sick-y. And like being 17. And like home.
I can't argue with something smelling like home. You love what you love. But my home smells a little less like vomit than yours does, I would guess.
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:58 (eighteen years ago) link
r you might like to say, as Matt and Steve like to, that a pub is a traditional drinking establishment with wood and tables and hand pumps and carpet and (in extreme cases) horse brasses, while a bar is something which looks different and modern.
Or you can say that a pub is an establishment which sets out to accommodate a broad range of its local community while a bar tends to be more demographically focussed. Perhaps that would be better said as "a bar knows the word demogrpahic, a pub won't understand why it's relevant".
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link
The Rosemary Branch in De Beauvoir Town used to have lots of wacky sculpture and painting and that but that seems to have calmed down a lot since it's been operated by the same people as the Swimmer and The Approach.
The Approach has an real actual contemporary art gallery upstairs where you can see proper contemporary art, some of which is really good.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link
pub explodes
― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Falling down the stairs again (noodle vague), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Oooh, that's a good one.
I had no idea the Rosemary Branch had art, although I did win the pub quiz in their once. I gained an odd reputation amongst the collegues I was drinking with as being some kind of pub quiz genius, but I was just luck y with the questions.
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link
So Wetherspoon'ses would be bars, then?
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Falling down the stairs again (noodle vague), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link
ale is not (cf. v seldom) sold in bars!
haha this could go on for some time.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link
More arguments for the foundary's pubpshness.
Just because gezzers are shaved bald and rather gay looking does not detract from their geezerishness.
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link
The feeling The Foundry gives me is that it's aimed quite squarely at a Trendy Hoxton demographic. Edgy, y'know.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Ste: but how many types? one's not enough
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link
the thing is that all the factors (architecture/design, 'content'/decor, clientele, range of products on offer, entertainment facilities, general atmos, historical significance etc.) do not stand up on their own as signifiers, but you have to be able to tick enough boxes for a place to be a proper Pub imo.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:56 (eighteen years ago) link
there, that's my personal opinion.
― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link
this argument is a lot like the 'what makes a big club?' argument.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Key difference for me is defined by their answer to this question: "Can I have a pint of bitter please?"
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link
former can be defined by capacity i guess.
latter by spending potential, i suppose.
you can put a number to both, as your definition, and those near the threshold number are medium sized, which are neither big or small, and then the further from that number the bigger or smaller a club they are.
you can do that to define whether a piece of string is long or short, too. using some form of average (e.g. median) value of all pieces of strings in the world.
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.fancyapint.com/main_site/thepubs/pub2178.html
― toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 March 2006 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Errrrmmm... *studied*? I don't think so.
― Hello Cthulhu (kate), Monday, 20 March 2006 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 20 March 2006 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link