Transport in London is shit

haha yes i know this (it was mentioned upthread) i thought the discussion at the time was what if it wasn't exempt from this and whether airport tax covers this cost (seems that it doesn't).

the leeds-sheffield "fast" service takes about an hour. virgin is 45 mins. the fast service does stop at barnsley and meadowhall etc. so its more of a regional link train, for the major towns in the area.

leeds to shefield travel, will, i predict, never ever be as good or quick or easy as it should.

Im very proud of our underground in Madrid, Actually, its got 12 lines now and its really modern (even though its old as well). It been refurbished from time to time. That's why i wonder why london underground bosses don't make it a little bit modern. The stations should be refurbished as the spanish ones does.

TOO EXPENSIVE. I don't know why you guys pay that money for a bloody travel card. In Madrid I pay 50 euros and I can go anywhere from anywhere. I guess that's because british don't speak up when its needed. Really, you should do a strike or something cause paying that money for the value you get its ridiculous.

I was so surpised to see slam doors trains in London. I said to myself 'wow, that's a classic'. Well, they are old but cute at the same time. Not a big deal though to complain about that, its been a shame they've been retired now.

How about the air cond?? Come on mates, speak up and tell them to fix air cond on the trains. YOU ARE PAYING TOO MUCH MONEY FOR THE BLODDY TRANSPORTATION!!! I read in Madrid this last summer that on the train it was up to 40C !!!!! THATS NOT A TRAIN BUT A SAUNA!!!

Tell them, do a strike or something. You english are very silly, you pay and pay and pay and you never complain!!

However, I still say that British transport is not shity but old. You must feel very proud of having one of the largest undergrounds in the world and the oldest one

Regards from Madrid

Technically very very difficult because of how deep the lines are and because it was never considered from the off. Air-conditioning the trains would make the stations a nice even 45?C or more, you'd have to air-condition the tunnels and stations as well and the cost, not to mention the amount of energy required would be astronomical.

I would not think the heat thrown off from the trains' A/C units would make all that much difference considering that they are constantly in motion. (Though NYC's subways are miserably hot in the summer, I admit.)

New York's subway is stifling hot and the only deep lines are the river tunnels and the washington heights lines. Most lines have regular street vents and the A/C trains still cook the tunnels and stations (don't forget the heat from people and traction motors etc.)

but the air con on the newer 6 trains is great tho.

wait isn't that like £35? seems a lot for a single ticket.

wait isn't that like £35? seems a lot for a single ticket.

It seems to have got him to London so I'd say it's a bit of a bargain.

Radiated, convected and conducted. Geothermal heat is minimal.

50 euros a month, innit.

I read yesterday that some tube lines are going to be closed for refurbishment. An olympian task.

That's about the third weekend in a row I've had really shit travel experiences in London.

It's a great city, but badly let down by its transport infrastructure.

"We suggest that you continue your journey at street level"

"Try the Northern Line"??????!?!?!
I'm going to Finsbury fucking Park!!!

LT appears to have this warped idea that no-one actually uses the tube at weekends, so it's alright to close half the system down in one go every Saturday and Sunday. As if this was some kind of 50s throwback where no shops were open, people wandered over to visit their family who lived round the corner and everyone piled into church on a Sunday.

which would be sort of okay if islington council wasn't intent on digging up every major road running through the borough...

no, i just think it knows (for sure) that LESS people use it at weekends.

i've started getting emails about weekend closures, somehow.

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What really bugs me is that fairly outrageous, but fairly commonplace, situations - such as dog latin's above, or several hundred commuters being stuck underground for an hour before being led to safety - are just shrugged off.

i was running a bit late to work so cunningly thought it a great idea to go to work by tube cos it's quicker right? HELL NO i was stuck at a station for 20 minutes (time it takes for the bus to get to work), and what's the worst is the way the next train display thing LIES and tell me 6 mins when i get there and doesn't ever change.

everytime i use the tube it seems to let me down (but i am one of those lesser people who only really ever use the tube at weekends). Thameslink, on the other hand, is amazing.

i guess i'm better off by bike. (or i was better off by bike, until some fucker stole it)

Those things may as well just display the entire written works of L. Ron Hubbard, such is their relation to actual reality.

But my point was that enough people do use it at weekends to make a mockery of the skeleton service that seems to operate every single Saturday and Sunday on the tube. I can barely recall a time when there was a regular Circle/H & C service at weekends!

If I were in charge, I would do exactly what the fuckers say they are anxious to avoid doing: close entire sections of line for, say, three or four weeks and get the bloody job done. Those Metronet numpties will never get anything done while they're ambling about on overtime at weekends and having 'late finishes' on Monday morning. It would be a pain in the arse if you live in say, East Finchley, but at least you knew it'd be over soon and you could actually plan your life around it.