yeah I think a lot of the disconnect between how artists view their own work and how fans do starts with the fact that by the time they put a record out, it's in the artist's past but it kind of stays in the perpetual present for the listener. if they don't keep playing a song live regularly, it probably stops even existing in their head at some point.
sometimes I wonder if it's easier to be have a kind of internal sense of satisfaction as a musician that hasn't 'made it' than one that has because you can believe your best days are ahead of you or that what you're working on at any given moment is the most exciting thing you've done, because there's not a huge fanbase or critical community constantly talking about how your best work was 5 or 10 years ago and they don't like the direction you've been going in the last couple albums.
― Rovi Wade (some dude), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
you get to a stage sometime during mixing where you're like god this is GREAT omg, then by time it comes out you've already got regret creeping in and it seems like it doesn't sound like how you imagined it sounds...then you blame whoever mastered it and move on w/yr life
this is exactly how i feel about almost everything i write except without the mastering excuse, so i believe you.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
reminds me this dfw quote from the lipsky interview book, talking about being a grad student looking at writers who have "made it":
You suffer from a delusion that, for all the pain of your envy, there's this inverse, satisfied feeling...there's no keen, exquisite pleasure that corresponds with the keen exquisite pain of envying somebody older. Who's written something, or won some tournament, that you particularly admire.
― adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
ha yeah there's a bunch of stuff in IJ about that, about the lower-ranked tennis players assuming that the higher-ranked tennis players are as happy as the lower-ranked ones are unhappy.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Favorite lotus mashup so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0VPPJscIL4&feature=player_embedded
― Moka, Friday, 4 March 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
OMG fuckin' a
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
bullet proof (he wishes he was)
lol I'm stealing that one
― Moka, Friday, 4 March 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
baw someone already used it on youtube
― Moka, Friday, 4 March 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yup, i stole it myself !
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
http://radioheadthekingoflimbs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/thom-yorke-dance-guide.jpg
― Moka, Friday, 4 March 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
in gif form
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhbagzv4zO1qa9wbfo1_500.gif
― Roz, Saturday, 5 March 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link
omg he's shooting justin bieber!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― fuck wit my dinner with andre day (m bison), Saturday, 5 March 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link
god the future is great.
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 March 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, excuse my format-illiteracy, but I was born in the post-tape/pre-CD era.... how much _____ does a 10" vinyl contain? Kinda overlooked the fact that there'll be two of them w/ the newspaper album.
― Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link
It will probably be similar to Kid A... 2 to 3 songs per side... a waste of vinyl but looks sweet:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS74iB6cP4pPCguhu9qc8TlGPqryJRgPHlqubFCn3ccBhRK-DO2&t=1
― Moka, Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks. So with all these rumors regarding Separator's last line ("It's not over yet" or something like that) (and it's obvious implication via song title).... maybe the idea of a continuation of the album doesn't have a whole lot of ground?
― Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
iono, i'm just hearing lots elsewhere that lotta peepz are hopeful considering the album as we have it now is so short
― Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
There's apparently a hidden cover on the digital version of tkol that nulls the theory that there's more than 8 tracks on the physical release:http://radioheadthekingoflimbs.com/hidden-tkol-cd-cover/
In a recent interview Johnny said they were still recording so I'm not sure anymore that they have a definitive upcoming release anytime soon.
― Moka, Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
^they seem to avoid using the word "album" tho, and instead "CD version". I'm slightly, slightly hopeful; but it's not something that'll keep me up at night.
If it hasn't been posted already, somebody digitized the album artwork into.... a song (I'm kinda O_o as well)http://soundcloud.com/zersto/radiohead-the-king-of-limbs-1/s-FQ8Os
― Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
and there's just this website's existence in general:http://www.thekingoflimbspart2.com/
― Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Woah. I think the Jacob is the Smoke Monster and the island is all in Hurley's imagination.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @ radiohead fans getting to the end of the album and going "that's it? that's all? van damme!" and convincing themselves there's another record in the pipeline
― Rovi Wade (some dude), Saturday, 5 March 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Here's another clue for you all: the walrus was Paul.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 5 March 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Suggest Ban Permalinklol @ radiohead fans getting to the end of the album and going "that's it? that's all? van damme!" and convincing themselves there's another record in the pipeline― Rovi Wade (some dude), Saturday, March 5, 2011 2:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
― Rovi Wade (some dude), Saturday, March 5, 2011 2:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
I WANT TO BELIEVE
― Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
& this partially supports the aforementioned theoryhttp://www.nme.com/news/radiohead/55292
― Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm not sure if that statement says anything other than "I'm a musician and I'm in a band and we make music"
― Z S, Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't understand this whole "issue"--like, i'm sure this is not the last time radiohead will release music.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Agreed, but it's more the idea that this 1) even was a press release in the first place 2) implies that the band is not yet finished or in continuation of something... that make me go "hmm". I mean, the last album just dropped and they've already got more stuff in the works... this soon?
tbh i'm perfectly satisfied with the latest album, but it seems so odd they've yet to talk about it at all (aside from the format it'll be delivered in) and what made them go with this new, subtle style.
― Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link
and just any response to the majority "wtf" opinions upon hearing this
― Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, to be fair, Stanley Donwood and cohorts are partially responsible for stirring the conspiracy pot.
― Melissa W, Sunday, 6 March 2011 08:05 (thirteen years ago) link
all previous radiohead LP's have been a big fanfare event, with the band effectively splitting up afterwards.
since they did 'harry patch' etc, feels like the modus operandi has changed - putting stuff out in as low-key manner as possible and then carrying on. seems obvious the king of limbs was a cohesive unit they felt they wanted to put out there at this point. there's rumours of a 12" on its way, more thom and jonny solo stuff etc... this conspiracy stuff feels kind of a bit embarrassing in context?
not sure i prefer the 'new' radiohead way of doing things, but resigned to the fact thats not going to matter to them one bit.
― matt h, Sunday, 6 March 2011 10:04 (thirteen years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Sunday, March 6, 2011 12:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think it's more a question of whether this is the only collection of songs they're releasing for the next 2-3 years and they're just going to tour or whatever or if there's an Amnesiac or In Rainbows bonus disc-style 'other half'
― Rovi Wade (some dude), Sunday, 6 March 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link
A brazilian writer/musician has a theory that the newspaper album holds an alternative tracklist as it might be packaged like a "codex". Her idea was even published on a well known music site here and I listened to the album following her idea and, for real, it gets better. Codex is still followed by GUTG, as it works perfectly on the album, but the changed sequences works very well.
It would be:
1) “Lotus Flower”2) “Feral”3) “Little By Little”4) “Codex”5) “Give Up the Ghost”6) “Morning Mr Magpie”7) “Bloom”8) “Separator”
She even made a graphic to explain it better. Take a look:
http://www.oesquema.com.br/trabalhosujo/2011/02/28/the-king-of-limbs-newspaper-album-ou-codex.htm#comment-21810
― Moka, Sunday, 6 March 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
^totally recommend Google Chrome for that site, it translated it near perfectly
― Crouching Seward, Hidden Raggett (kelpolaris), Sunday, 6 March 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
On headphones, two weeks later...this is really very good :)
― acoleuthic, Monday, 7 March 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Tried listening to the alternate track listing as listed above, for the hell of it. It gets off to a good start but "Give Up the Ghost" still drags the momentum and now "Bloom" does too. It's no more or less successful than the actual track list.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Guess the dude was inspired by all the mashups:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef014e5fc4cfc1970c-600wi
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Yech, having just read the article itself I'm revolted. (Not by Yorke but by the author, that's some terrible writing.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
He could do x that is weird and people would still love him is used three or four times.
― Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
That sounds great, they should get him to do a Residentadvisor podcast.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Heard "Lotus Flower" on the radio the other day, and it suddenly struck me as vaguely similar to PJ Harvey's "The Mess We're In." Which of course features Yorke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO9tA8-kbk8
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
god i can't believe i still haven't heard this yet...
― farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
cosign w/ Ned here
No one had a clue what to expect from the enigmatic frontman.
i havent seen a full setlist or anything for yorke's gig but uhhh anyone who's ever glanced at the Dead Air Space office charts would know *exactly* what to expect i'd imagine?
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
like, in what world would a Thom Yorke dj set *NOT* include burial, jaylib, fela, modeselektor, etc. etc.?
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually what Lotus Flower really reminds me of is one of Apparat's vocal tracks, both the beats and the falsetto. And there's clearly some feedback loop of influence given that Thom's repped for Moderat in the past, and Apparat included Harrowdown Hill on his recent DJ Kicks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tbp0BQel4M
― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
thom yorke was repping hard for bpitchcontrol circa 'hail to the thief'
― maxwell's silva hamartia (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Walls >>>>>>>>>> The King of Limbs
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah there's not much doubt in my head that Apparat could make a better Thom Yorke electronic record than Yorke himself can, but that's beside the point.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
ilxor finally heard kol!
congrats
― maxwell's silva hamartia (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link