I always knew David Brooks was an asshole ....

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well even accepting their existence requires breaking w/ their core beliefs - "why would any rich/successful person advocate for higher taxes / bigger government / anything that might work against their immediate interests? that's just not human nature." the only explanation is that they must be literally insane.

iatee, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Bill_Gross Bill Gross
After Chris apologizes for inviting right-of-center David Brooks, he gets a mild standing ovation in the first session of #TED.
2 minutes ago

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Bill_Gross Bill Gross
Now Chris is trying to define what a #Stnading #Ovation is supposed to be for. #TED Also tells us not to stand if we don't want. #NoDuh?
1 minute ago

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

david brooks broke #TED

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

well tbf 'we' get similarly weird about poor right-wingers... but the explanation is basically the same. beliefs r funny.

goole, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

xps

goole, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't get weird about them, I just think they're venal and hard-of-thinking.

anna sui generis (suzy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

sorta...but I mean, it's lol/sad that most of america votes against their economic interests, but that doesn't destroy my basic economic logic cause I don't believe in a world where people are acting completely on self-interest. there is something of a difference there.

iatee, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

People who act in complete self-interest are generally great big sociopathic drains on the rest of society.

anna sui generis (suzy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

to turn it around, i guess i mean more than just voting behavior. conservatives looking at rich liberals suffer from some kind of total incomprehension. the jokes don't even make sense. the logic of what's 'hypocritical' doesn't make sense. the resentment doesn't make sense, considering their own leaders. the whole thing is bizarre.

you just want to say, no really, believing in civil rights, gay rights, a fair shot for everyone, full bodily right for women, a decent regulatory state, religious ideas kept to the private sphere, a frank and adult culture... people just believe this stuff! even some rich people! it's pretty simple!

goole, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Words designed to chill the heart:

David Brooks introduces a new blog in which he hopes to publicize, discuss and evaluate new work in the study of human nature

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 March 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

http://grab.by/9kJ1

why do humans keep punching me

ice cr?m, Monday, 7 March 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

The secret to good writing is to write about things you're passionate about imo

http://brooks.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/07/the-thrill-of-victory/

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I just discovered this old article via a Tom Scocca link. A great point-by-point takedown of the Brooks method. Includes Brooks's whiny rebuttal.

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/booboos_in_paradise/

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 18 March 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2011/05/03/christopher-tayler/yo-douche-bag/

joe, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Jeez

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^deserves a poll imo

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 May 2011 09:09 (twelve years ago) link

David Aaronovitch performs a great hatchet job on Brooks in the Times today. Final paragraphs:

The result is that the book explains everything and absolutely nothing. What makes the person that is you, as opposed to the person that is your brother or sister or your neighbour, is missing. Do we really pick our partners because of facial symmetry as Brooks avers, or is there something deeper at work? But what can you expect from a book supposedly about the unconscious, but whose index doesn’t even include the words hate, envy, guilt or dreams?

And “murder” appears only once, on page 8. After ploughing through 400 pages of superficial scientism masquerading as wisdom, I felt that was not enough.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 6 May 2011 07:56 (twelve years ago) link

god, what a treasure trove of display names

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 6 May 2011 09:26 (twelve years ago) link

Link?

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Friday, 6 May 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

Like most women, she got lubricated even while looking at nature shows of animals copulating

I mean, what

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 May 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like this book could be a career-ender for David Brooks. I mean a man can hope, right?

bin caught laden (Hurting 2), Friday, 6 May 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

I’m writing this story, first, because while researchers in a wide variety of fields have shone their flashlights into different parts of the cave of the unconscious, much of their work is done in academic silos.

we need someone out there livin' the life to tell us how shit is really going down.

http://i.imgur.com/lHiZ2.jpg

You Get Hoynes (bnw), Friday, 6 May 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

Like most women, she got lubricated even while looking at nature shows of animals copulating
I mean, what

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, May 6, 2011 4:58 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

studies have shown

difficult listening hour, Friday, 6 May 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ a Reagan quote

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 May 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

much of their work is done in academic silos.

As opposed to the real world of upper class Washington DC suburb Bethesda

curmudgeon, Friday, 6 May 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

I'll admit this made me want to read at least part of the book:

Imagine a man who buys a chicken from the grocery store, manages to bring himself to orgasm by penetrating it, then cooks and eats the chicken.

I didn't link the Times review kingfish, because it's behind a paywall.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 6 May 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

the next sentence: "Just imagine it for a second. Isn't that shit fucked up? Damn!"

bin caught laden (Hurting 2), Friday, 6 May 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, NYT, that Times. Ok.

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Friday, 6 May 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

No, London Times is behind a paywall too. Shame, because it's a great review that deserves to be passed around and around the web until it makes David Brooks cry.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Saturday, 7 May 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

can somebody copy/paste here?

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Sunday, 8 May 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

My colleague Rachel Sylvester revealed, in The Times this week, that Tory politicians have been reading David Brooks’ new book with avidity. One minister thinks it informs the reader what the Big Society really is. Another believes that it sets the framework for 21st-century Conservatism. A Cabinet minister told Rachel that The New York Times columnist’s effort was “the best description of Cameron-style Conservatism I’ve read”.

My bad self hopes it is true that the book is made compulsory reading for ministers. I can then imagine them attempting to live their lives according to its blizzard of banal insights, such as this one: “Marriage expert John Gottman argues that in a healthy relationship the partners make five positive comments to each other for every negative one.” If you spot George Osborne out and about with Mrs Osborne and he appears to be counting under his breath, you’ll know that it isn’t the deficit he’s calculating, but whether he’s managed to hit the “healthy relationship” comment ratio.

There are no bigger, fatter, more straw-filled Aunt Sallies these days than the idea that most of us somehow believe that Man lives by bread alone. We are supposedly in thrall to the notion of pure homo economicus, so that we require Lord Layard of Happiness or the odd American columnist to tell us, forcefully, that the latest research suggests that there is more to human beings than Gross Domestic Product. Because, of course, bringing up our kids, falling in and out of love, suffering loss and celebrating birth, we didn’t know all this.

Of course we did. If politicians stopped to read a novel every once in a while, or had time to watch the television, they’d realise that their fellow citizens are fully aware of how complicated it is to be human.

This book, written by a celebrated columnist who has a gift for epithet and catchphrase (I liked “sanctimommies” for a certain kind of competitive parent), works by citing some aspect of almost every psychological and neuroscientific study you’ve seen in newspapers for the past 30 years over the course of 400 pages. Perhaps that is the attraction to busy ministers.

Aware that such mass citation would make for an arid, example-strewn waste of a book, Brooks had the idea of creating two characters, Harold and Erica, on to whose conjoined lives the facts and speculations could be stuck, like a forest of Post-it Notes. So two deeply unsympathetic, professional middle-class Americans become the spattered vehicles for a mass of what I can only call semi-scientific stuff.

Some of it seems robust, some obvious, some intriguing, some utterly speculative, some absurd, some nothing more than anecdotal. Some of it leads somewhere, much of it doesn’t.

Surveys, studies, experiments in evolutionary psychology, behavioural psychology and neuroscience do service alongside stories of what Benjamin Franklin did to become a great writer (a celebrity — that’s news to me) and riffs on such revolutionary themes as practice makes perfect.

Although the ostensible theme is the human unconscious mind, what characterises the book is a sunny determinism. If we can only isolate and understand the chemical workings of the body (unconscious because we are not conscious of them) then we have the trick of it.

The result of this approach can only be described as grisly. Take this, from when Erica and Harold’s childless marriage goes through a tough time. Brooks sends himself off on a journey through the mind of a middle-aged woman. He quotes at length from a neuropsychiatrist called Louann Brizendine, who theorises that a middle-aged woman becomes difficult because she starts wanting to please herself. Why? “With her estrogen down, her oxytocin is down too . . . and she’s getting less of a dopamine rush from the things she did before, even talking with her friends. She’s not getting the calming oxytocin reward of tending and caring for her little children . . .” Fortunately, short of offering oxytocin supplements, we already know the answer on how husbands should deal with this. Make sure your positive comment ratio doesn’t fall below 5:1.

The result is that the book explains everything and absolutely nothing. What makes the person that is you, as opposed to the person that is your brother or sister or your neighbour, is missing. Do we really pick our partners because of facial symmetry as Brooks avers, or is there something deeper at work? But what can you expect from a book supposedly about the unconscious, but whose index doesn’t even include the words hate, envy, guilt or dreams?

And “murder” appears only once, on page 8. After ploughing through 400 pages of superficial scientism masquerading as wisdom, I felt that was not enough.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Monday, 9 May 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

When I first saw that picture I was sure it was Photoshopped. Too fucking funny.

that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 16 May 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

Ned, you and I read Sully at the same time.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

This thread title is really one of those evergreen phrases, applicable to the end of time.

Aimless, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/05/24/brooks/index.html

Greenwald discusses how Brooks just visited the UK and wrote this:

Britain is also blessed with a functioning political culture. It is dominated by people who live in London and who have often known each other since prep school. This makes it gossipy and often incestuous. But the plusses outweigh the minuses

Needless to say Greenwald does not agree and he also dissects some older David Brooks quotes

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

Ned, you and I read Sully at the same time.

Well, yeah.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

Imagine a man who buys a chicken from the grocery store, manages to bring himself to orgasm by penetrating it, then cooks and eats the chicken.

In my head it's Dave Chappelle saying this

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Do you know how hard it is to cum inside a chicken?"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Shortly after the midterm elections, the New York Times’ David Brooks insisted that Republicans were feeling “modest and cautious.” They’re “sober,” Brooks said, adding that the GOP wouldn’t “overreach.” Republican leaders, Brooks assured readers, were “prepared to take what they can get, even if it’s not always what they would like.”

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Which is exactly why Dems shouldn't be rushing to praise his judgement now that he's singing their tune

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

He shouldn't be even given legitimacy, but since he's on NPR and PBS and in the NY Times and book stores, some Dems jumped favorably on his recent comments attacking Republicans so they can say "look even David Brooks says they're crazy"

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

when you praise the judgement of someone you have always lambasted for having terrible judgement, what does that say about your judgement?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link


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