I should go back and give this album another shot but every time I do, the experience is wholly irritating and I end up putting on Hail To The Thief instead.
(I really like Hail To The Thief so the experience isn't all bad.)
― DJP, Sunday, 27 February 2011 18:10 (eight years ago) link
In live shows, has Radiohead ever segued from "Reckoner" into a cover of "Silly Love Songs" by Wings?
― jaymc, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:42 (seven years ago) link
recently i had pointed out to me that there's a random tambourine moment at :33 in "reckoner", never noticed it before. it's in the right channel along with the drums, really wonder if it could have been left in by mistake.
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:49 (seven years ago) link
It's probably purposeful to show it's not all sequenced. They left in a really obvious bass error on Lotus Flower for the same reason.
I love this album but I usually skip the first 2 songs, from then on it flows really beautifully.
Cornish grammar is also rlly idiosyncratic, and Thom Yorke once made a video where he was transformed into a tree! How great is that?
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:36 (seven years ago) link
i think this is one of my favorite radiohead albums. maybe like #2 or #3.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:39 (seven years ago) link
but unless it's a tambourine falling off something in the drum room, it sounds like a digital mistake. basically it sounds like a tambourine being shaking in time pops in for two 16th notes and then is gone.
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:39 (seven years ago) link
The opening pair are my favourites! And Reckoner.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:52 (seven years ago) link
The format of the box set just makes it rlly hard to get out & just listen and also it's not on Spodify, but since transferring it to an easier case I've been revisiting it a lot and just.. the vocal harmonies on Nude and the segue of Reckoner into House of Cards... lush.
It's so pastoral, it sounds like all forests and farmland instead of the claustrophobic cloisters of central Oxford.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:58 (seven years ago) link
Also consider who is playing the tambourine. Ed. Now what is more likely. Nigel making a digital error, or Ed getting stoned and missing his cue to come in at the right place? Let me think.
I blame Ed.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:11 (seven years ago) link
but it's the only time there's tambourine on that channel in the whole song (not talking about the real tambourine track that's on the left channel).
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:15 (seven years ago) link
yeah i hear what you're talking about, my guess is it was an editing/mixing mistake but they left it in because they thought it sounded cool
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:18 (seven years ago) link
i wonder if maybe it was some kind of scratch cue during the recording process and they decided to leave it in. kind of a weird place for that though.
I keep missing it but I'm listening on a shitty boombox with no time display.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:21 (seven years ago) link
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It's my number 1.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:22 (seven years ago) link
I listened to the drum stem (which I downloaded from iTunes, lol) and it does sound like a digital thing.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:24 (seven years ago) link
the discbox packaging warped my LP's over time... total bummer.
― BringTheAuBonPain, Thursday, 16 February 2012 01:26 (seven years ago) link
Played this at our record club last night. By far my favourite thing they've done.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:43 (six years ago) link
Interestingly Rob was talking about how he's barely listened to it, because of how awkward the discbox packaging is.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:44 (six years ago) link
In terms of the actual music, I haven’t a clue what Thom Yorke is singing about here, and don’t really care – he uses his voice much more effectively and with greater understanding here than he has before, layering it beatifically on “Numb”, finding jitteringly compelling space on “15 Step”, edging towards sublimation on “Reckoner”.
Do you mean "Nude" here? Speaking of which, that's the one song on In Rainbows that I could without. For some reason when he hits that high, isolated falsetto note near the end it embarrasses me to listen to it in a way that doesn't occur in other Radiohead songs. Also, "Nude" is an old radiohead song (from 1996 or early 1997, i think?) that fans were clamoring to be released for years, and then when it finally came out on In Rainbows it was disappointing on a few levels because I'd already heard it so many times on bootlegs back on high school, and also it somehow sounded dulled down compared to the original!
― "reading specialist" (Z S), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:03 (six years ago) link
Damnit, I do. Will correct.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:07 (six years ago) link
Have they got a song called Numb? I can't think of one but it's like the most Radiohead-y one-word songtitle ever.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:09 (six years ago) link
Don't know about Radiohead but Portishead have a song called "Numb" (the one with the duck noises in the beginning on "Dummy") and it fits also very well as one word song title of the band.
― alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:04 (six years ago) link
Nude was my initial instant favourite on the album and I think the spacey arrangement is lovely - probably helps that I'm not a mega-obsessive fan and had no awareness of previous versions of the song. Reckoner and Weird Fishes have taken the lead in my affections in the years since IR was released.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:06 (six years ago) link
The "Live From The Basement" versions are even better, adding a missing human element.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 4 January 2013 00:30 (six years ago) link
this video takes a lot of detours to make the simple point that the piano riff in Videotape is syncopated - fun nonetheless:
― niels, Saturday, 5 August 2017 18:10 (two years ago) link
That video is simultaneously interesting and, depending on your point of view, what was wrong with much of modern Radiohead/Yorke.
"Mmmm, I like this. It's complex and inert." :P
― yesca, Sunday, 6 August 2017 16:22 (two years ago) link
i just skimmed that video but listening to "videotape" again it seems like bullshit? i'm no musicologist but it feels like for the piano to be syncopated it has to be syncopated against something, but everything else in the song follows the same timing as the piano until the metronome/click thing that comes in at the end. so i'd say maybe the click sound is syncopated but not the piano.
― na (NA), Monday, 7 August 2017 20:52 (two years ago) link
I think they're right based on the live versions of the songs, especially that festival one. And the drumming (like on the Basement version, and even the studio one) makes a lot more sense this way. But yeah it seems like a silly and stubborn arrangement choice, it just makes it really hard to play, for no real payoff.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 7 August 2017 20:56 (two years ago) link
Also yes that video could have been 45 seconds long.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 7 August 2017 20:57 (two years ago) link
maybe the band is thinking of it as being syncopated as they play it but just listening to the album version it's hard to hear it that way
― na (NA), Monday, 7 August 2017 21:03 (two years ago) link
i just skimmed that video...maybe the band is thinking of it as being syncopated as they play it but just listening to the album version it's hard to hear it that way
yeah, near the end of the video they finally make clear that they're talking about the syncopation in the live version in the song, and that the album version's lack of a backbeat takes away the syncopation, even though there are still traces of to be heard (like in the metronome you mentioned, and also just the phrasing of the vocals imo)
― Karl Malone, Monday, 7 August 2017 21:20 (two years ago) link
"In Rainbows Turns 10" cash-in headlines should be arriving in a few short weeks. Does life get any better?
― billstevejim, Monday, 7 August 2017 21:25 (two years ago) link
I'm listening to the "Live from the Basement" version on Youtube and the piano is establishing a straight beat along with the kick drum, with syncopated flourishes popping up here and there in the accompanying percussion.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 7 August 2017 21:43 (two years ago) link
maybe it's kind of like an easter egg, from a listening perspective I'm not sure what it addsI'm surprised Thom rates it so highly, I'd take that and bodysnatchers off In Rainbows if I were sequencing it
― niels, Monday, 7 August 2017 21:57 (two years ago) link
I agree. But on this version, there's a pretty clear drum beat that puts the piano/vocals a 1/6th note ahead of each quarter note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isETL6R7x2w
Maybe by the time of the Basement version they decided to stop being so hard on themselves and just play it the way everyone else hears it. Or maybe they didn't want to explain to Clive that "no, actually..."
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 7 August 2017 22:00 (two years ago) link