Casino Boogie = the Stones' fastest song
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually, "Flip The Switch" is faster (it's alright if this wasn't your first option).
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Torn and Frayed=GODHEAD
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link
(I was just goin by what Keef's said)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link
also, there's a fill Charlie does in the chorus/solo section of Rip This Joint that kills me
"Casino Boogie" is "fast"? Isn't it completely mid-tempo? I can think of at least three or four songs from Exile alone that are much faster. "Turd on the Run," "Rocks Off," "Rip This Joint," "All Down the Line." Maybe I'm not understanding what in it is supposed to be particularly fast...
― sw00ds, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link
pick-slide right before the drum roll at the top of "Rocks Off."
Very true. Also they way Mick says awww yeah right then.
Re: Sticky v. Exile, before I had listened to Exile a lot over and over and over, I liked Sticky better, but after awhile Exile blooms and blooms with rewards. Sticky doesn't feel as cohesive. Sticky has moments of greatness but on Exile, all the songs after awhile start to blend together to make this amazing messy kick ass record, the whole album is one big long moment.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link
arrgh sorry I was thinking of "Rip This Joint" yes. I have trouble keepin these tracks straight without lookin at the record
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link
fastest song the Stones ever cut ... until Flip the Switch, which is a couple of beats faster
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link
xp - Heh, don't blame you--it's that kind of record, in a way! hard to keep track of individual songs. (the truth is, I had to think HARD to remember how "Casino Boogie" went--I always get it and "Ventilator Blues" mixed up.)
One thing I've never fully understood is ILM's fascination with Sticky Fingers, which has a few great tracks and some awful dreck: "Bitch" and "I Got the Blues," especially (the latter of which is maybe my least favourite Stones song up unto Goat Heads Soup).
― sw00ds, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link
the organ solo in "I Got the Blues" = UGH!!
― sw00ds, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link
(the truth is, I had to think HARD to remember how "Casino Boogie" went--I always get it and "Ventilator Blues" mixed up.)
You need to listen to Exile more! Ventilator has an awesome weirdo beat, Casino Boogie has hardly any bass drum until the end.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link
No, trust me - I don't need to listen to it more! It's probably one of my most-played records ever. It's just with those two for some reason I always confuse them.
― sw00ds, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
There's nothing on EOMS with the cumulative impact of "Sister Morphine," "Dead Flowers," and "Moonlight Mile," even though it's their best.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't know, dead flowers is fun and all, but it's sorta corny and cheesy? sister morphine has always sounded like a joke. i do like moonlight mile, but it's no sway.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Sticky Fingers, which has a few great tracks and some awful dreck: "Bitch" and "I Got the Blues," especially (the latter of which is maybe my least favourite Stones song up unto Goat Heads Soup).
this is so true, esp re: I Got the Blues which is just too painful to listen to. I always find myself skipping around Sticky Fingers as well, the sequencing is weird and its a very draggy, plodding album when listened to all the way through.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Dead Flowers is my favorite Stones song, cuz I like to think of it as Mick's younger self singing to his older self.
"Dead Flowers" is a joke with a sting.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I want to second Matos on the greatness of "I Just Wanna See His Face". I don't get the impression that any of the Stones was anything like a Christian at this time (and for the purposes of this post I don't care), but when I hear that track, I feel longing of the sort you hear Christians talk about. I'd love to find some Pentacostal church where that was their main anthem!
― Euler, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I definitely love "Moonlight Mile," which has to be one of the weirdest sounding songs they've ever recorded. I kind of like Jagger's Dylan impersonations in "Sister Morphine" ("Pleeeeaaase, Sister Morphine..."), but, I dunno the drug obsession all over SF kind of annoys me after a while (it's probably there on Exile, too, but I still don't understand most of the lyrics, so it doesn't get in the way).
― sw00ds, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Also I love "I Got The Blues", especially for the horns. Yeah, it's a homage that can sound like a parody, just like "Dead Flowers". But on "I Got The Blues" Mick's singing is less corny than on "Dead Flowers", and it's got a pretty dramatic buildup.
― Euler, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I haven't heard anyone praise "Happy," which is, probably, the giddiest Stones song of the seventies and the last Keef song until "Before They Make Me Run" which doesn't sound like he's slurring from underneath a pile of cig ash.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I've been listening to this a lot in the 18 months. Usually side two first. "Happy" is my favorite Keith song. I like it just about anytime. I prefer it to people some saturdays.
-- Trip Maker, Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:52 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
"She Said Yeah" is faster than "Rip This Joint" IIRC (don't know "Flip the Switch" offhand)
― Matos W.K., Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link
YES BUT I WANT HEARTS, FLOWERS, UNICORNS, AND CANDY PILED IN ITS HONOR
(xpost)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Charlie sounds fierce on "Flip The Switch," like a drum machine, and for all I know there's one in there too, since it's one of the Dust Brothers-produced tracks.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I kind of like Jagger's Dylan impersonations in "Sister Morphine" ("Pleeeeaaase, Sister Morphine...")
off-topic a bit, but "Jigsaw Puzzle" might be my favorite Dylan rip ever
― Matos W.K., Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Those drum fills Charlie does at the end of Rocks Off are divine. He just kills though out the whole record.
― leavethecapital, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I haven't heard anyone praise "Happy," which is, probably, the giddiest Stones song of the seventies
this is actually the song that made me get Exile on Main Street, cuz I saw the Replacements do a cover version of it
I R A DORK
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link
this is, btw, Mick Jagger's least favorite major Stones album.
Is there a EOMS song poll? I can't imagine any song leading.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link
xxxp [re Dylan] I agree that "Jigsaw Puzzle" is better--and probably "she smiled sweetly" too.
yeah, it could almost be called "Giddy" that song, esp. that four-note repeating high guitar line.
(I think there was an Exile poll, wasn't there?)
― sw00ds, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link
linked at the top of this thread
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
(results unsurprising)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
boy, I am not AT ALL on my game today.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I have a few bootlegs of the Mats doing "Happy". Drunkenly.
― Dandy Don Weiner, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Of all the late-early-mid era Stones albums, i'd place Exile... in a solid fourth; excepting, of course, if your definition of the late-early-mid era includes titles earlier than 1970's Get Your Ya-Ya's Out! then, i would entertain the possibility of exalting other late-early, early mid, and even late-mid-early titles.
― christoff, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link
This album fucking sucks.
― Frogman Henry, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Nah, it rules.
― Frogman Henry, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link
what a great album! like some other peeps on this thread it doesn't have my fave Stones songs, but as a collection it might be the best one. Used to not be all that into the sides 3 & 4, but i've come around to loving the whole damn thing. the murk rules! it really is a great headphones record -- all kindsa stuff going on beneath the surface.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link
One of the four or five greatest English-singing albums ever recorded and released. At the time, the way it confounded categories of fatigue and energy, young and adult suggested a beguiling future for rock. Unfortunately, those same confounded categories would prove insufferable as the 1980s rolled around.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Sprawling and messy and just huge. This album takes a long time to digest, and listening to it all at once can be a major undertaking.
As I tend to move back and forth b/t Stones albums depending upon the mood of the day/time of day, EOMS CAN be the greatest. It certainly ain't always the greatest.
And it doesn't have Moonlight Mile, which is my favorite Stones song. But it does have Ventilator Blues, which is my second favorite Stones song.
Great album.
― B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 31 July 2007 23:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Side 2 of Exile = possibly the best album side ever by anyone.
― Patrick, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link
love it
― sam500, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I've been thinking about Sweet Black Angel. I didn't know it was written for Angela Davis. I wonder what she thinks of this song?
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Keith's harmonies on that one are unearthly, aren't they?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes, Keith's contribution to the song really uh brings it on home. See, I can listen to this album first thing in the morning at work. But I started with side two! I'll go back to Rocks off after Soul Survivor.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link
'Shine A Light' has the best guitar solo on any record, anywhere.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 August 2007 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link
You can almost guarantee that it's Mick Taylor's handiwork, then.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 2 August 2007 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link
(The REAL fastest Stones record is "I Just Wanna Make Love To You" or "Surprise Surprise", surely?)
I've always been a bit lukewarm on "Exile" too, because of the couple-three absolute dead spots. I've given "Casino Boogie" 21 years and still think it sucks. But Side Two just kills.
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 2 August 2007 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link
perhaps of interest to those on this thread: Peter Whitehead's '66 Rolling Stones film "Charlie Is My Darling"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link
My don't-fuck-with-me-boys keeper: "Casino Boogie," whose casual, muddy groove and outro and Keef high harmonies personify what I love about this era of Stones. Also Jagger's 5x7 card lyrics.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link
judge and jury walk outhand in hand
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link
OPEN FOH BIDNESS
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link
i stumbled across this a couple of months ago. amateur footage of a 1973 show in australia, and the sound is basically excellent (apart from the beginning)here's "happy"― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, May 11, 2022 5:29 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
here's "happy"
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, May 11, 2022 5:29 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
That's my channel, I synced up the soundboard audio to the footage shot by Deniz Tek - super nice guy and great foresight for bringing his super8 camera, haha.
― whitehallunity, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link
ahh!! did you post this before on ilx?! or is this just a very fortunate happenstance??
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
It got posted a few months ago on some Stones thread. Either C/D or Goats Head Soup?
― we only steal from the greatest books (PBKR), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link
Keith's backup on Casino Boogie is one of my favorite moments of his, every time I hear I am reminded of 90s Memphis rocker Lorette Velvette (produced by Alex Chilton)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-TjPoNOMpc
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Friday, 13 May 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link
Lorette Velvette now there’s a name I hadn’t thought about in 20+ years Im a big Let it Loose stan but it does benefit mightily from the LA overdubs
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Saturday, 14 May 2022 08:20 (one year ago) link
"Let It Loose" is an absolute masterclass but I could understand dumping that or others from this for a single LP. it would've only benefited goats head soup or the subsequent albums.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 14 May 2022 09:17 (one year ago) link
The sunlight bores the daylights out of me
― calstars, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link
Sunshine ?
sunshinemy fave line
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link
True tho
― calstars, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link
Documentary on "Exile on Main Street" gets off to a great start with Don Was claiming the album was recorded at the same time as Coppola was shooting "Apocalypse Now" - fyi Don the Vietnam War hadn't even finished yet. Then Keith claims the British government were out to get them because they were too powerful and that's why they had to leave the UK - it wasn't just about the tax dontcha know?
― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:17 (three months ago) link
I surely must have misheard that Don Was quote, they couldn't possibly leave such a howler in the film could I? Mind you it was followed shortly after a brief clip of Jack White asking when it was recorded.
― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:22 (three months ago) link
He must have mixed up Apocalypse Now with The Godfather
― Josefa, Friday, 29 December 2023 20:32 (three months ago) link
Possibly, he was making some bullshit point or other which wouldn't have worked with The Godfather.
― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:48 (three months ago) link
don was not correct
― ꙮ (map), Friday, 29 December 2023 21:29 (three months ago) link
lol these movies are for me very "I want to hear about what you're talking about but i really don't want the myth version you're going to hammer me over the head with for ninety minutes." at what point in this one does Dave Grohl appear
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 29 December 2023 22:30 (three months ago) link
“Rip this joint blah blah blah”
― calstars, Friday, 29 December 2023 22:35 (three months ago) link
This had the talking heads at the start at the end and, thankfully, not very much of them at all. 95% was footage and photos from the recording sessions with the Stones and associates doing voiceovers. Opening up with Don Was placing "Apocalypse Now" in 1971 and then showing Jack White not knowing when the album was recorded suggests they were taking the piss out of "classic album docu" conventions tbh. At least I like to think so.
― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Friday, 29 December 2023 22:45 (three months ago) link
at what point in this one does Dave Grohl appear
Same question as applied to Johnny Depp and Dick Cavett.
― clemenza, Friday, 29 December 2023 22:49 (three months ago) link
I thought c******* blues was the exile doc
― calstars, Friday, 29 December 2023 22:54 (three months ago) link
There's another, "Official" one called Stones In Exile that accompanied the expanded reissue of the album back in 2010. I imagine this is the one being discussed? It includes some footage from CSB.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 December 2023 22:59 (three months ago) link
always love hearing how hard hit they were by taxes that they had to flee in their private jets to their Riviera chateaux
― bulb after bulb, Friday, 29 December 2023 23:12 (three months ago) link
(xp) That's it.
― The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Friday, 29 December 2023 23:58 (three months ago) link
Things like this make me agree with Mick Jagger that nostalgia sucks.
Should he read this message board, he should know we don't want him working with Aaron Dessner.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 00:02 (two months ago) link