Microtonal jazz

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I think of U. Srinivas freaky carnatic mandolin.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 23 July 2005 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

been thinking of this concept of 'microtonal jazz' today... the funny thing about classic jazz is that the intonation is usually so pure, when horn & string players line up behind a vocalist, they're going to nail the pure intervals and fuck a piano player, the good sounds aren't quite what's on the keyboard... nothing like pure intonation to make things leap straight out at you, that's one of the secrets of those early records

& then in the sixties the free players _really_ started in on overtones and playing between the notes... all of the free players who are typically brought up were pushing away from the twelve notes & finding new things that worked

that's not what Julio's talking about with 'microtonality' where someone defines an alternate, fixed set of intervals and composes for it: that's what that New Music Box interviewer linked above meant when asking Eaton 'who else was working with microtones in jazz besides Don Ellis' ... systematic exploration. points to Ellis for designing trumpets with extra valves to nail quarter notes

but put on (one of ten thousand examples) the first two minutes of Coltrane's "Meditations" with Sanders & Coltrane battling it out and the same question seems a little naive, they're playing off the scale and they know what they're doing

I bought Maneri's 'Kalavinka' last night, need to spend some more time with it... definitely a lot of strong precise between-note sustains there

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

that is.. a lot of frets?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9MjtfEQl_c

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:11 (four years ago) link

That was pretty interesting.

With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link

Yeah, kinda...idk what I'd be looking for from microtonal rock.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link

feels like if Allan Holdsworth grew up listening to Muse

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

dunno about how it applies to jazz, but I researched some microtonal theory recently. Our familiar music divides the octave into 12 tones, but you can divide it in other ways too. Some work better than others, e.g. 5 tones gives a pentatonic scale, but harmonic music can also be found in other divisions, e.g. 53-TET is 53 tones, others that work include 19-TET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVZy9GUeMqY

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

xyzzzz do you like Horse Lords?

ogmor, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

posting microtonal riffs until everybody agrees that bad notes are actually good notes pic.twitter.com/OtjaNo4D8k

— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) May 5, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 07:48 (three years ago) link

ogmor - just saw this. Would you recommend a particular record?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 07:50 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

This is tearing my head apart, kind of (h/t Drugs A. Money). Not 100% sure what to make of it but it's definitely interesting and I like Fiuczynski's tone a lot: https://giorgimikadze.bandcamp.com/album/georgian-microjamz

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

By ear, I can't tell at all what kind of tuning system they're using tbh.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

there's a fella in Australia called Kraig Grady who has done microtonal work that I've really enjoyed

I wouldn't call it jazz (possibly jazz adjacent at times - I've seen him play with Chris Abrahams of The Necks for instance)

alongside the music is some loose world-building around the (fictional) island of Anaphoria, kind of fourth world vibes

in a fairly unexpected development, DJ Bonebrake from X plays on one of his records

umsworth (emsworth), Thursday, 18 June 2020 04:31 (three years ago) link


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