Top 50 Most Overrated Electronic Albums

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along with You've Come Along Way, Baby.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

ironic, if you think about it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

radioactivity is my favourite kw album...

overrated 'super discount'

zappi (joni), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, ironic where ironic = disgusting.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

boards of canada - music has the right to bore you to death

metfigga (metfigga), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

#43(?) Death In Vegas "Scorpio Rising"

I had to sneak this over to my record store's listening station (to preserve the rep). Utter crap.

Also brings to mind the last few Chemical Brothers records, which while not utter crap, are overrated all the same.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Dig Your Own Hole is their apogee, really.

Crickets Dance On Tequila Booty (Barima), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link

42. autechre - tri repeate
41. autechre - lp5
40. autechre - ep7
39. autechre - confield
38. autechre - chiastic slide
37. autechre - draft 7:30
36. autechre - incunabulababapapaoomaumau

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I knew someone would do this! No, no, noooooooooo!!!!!!

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I have to assume the album that incorporates a "papaooomaumau" was kind of a step up.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

You like Amber then, eh?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

35. new forms - roni size & reprazent

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i knew i forgot one!!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

ehehehe

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i will mention Leftfield now before anyone else does even tho i love both albums (first more than second of course)...naturally i like all the albums mentioned here so far (the ones i've heard at least)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

tho having said that i would agree about BOC's MHTRTC being over-rated. give me Twoism and Geogaddi over that easily (despite ROYGBIV being the best thing they've ever done)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

34. orbital - insides
33. leftfield - leftism
32. the orb - adventures beyond the blah blah
31. derrick may - innovator

haha xpost

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I kill strongo for 34.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

#32 The whole Kompakt "Pop Ambient" series

Case closed via review by Aquarius Records:

"At this rate by volume 6 or 7 there may not be any sound left at all, just gentle whispers and inaudible drones."

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, now that almost every "electronic" album I bought because of its esteem has now been discredited, I'm actually more curious what album's AREN'T overrated in this genre.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link

30. pole - 1, 2, 3
29. masters at work - EVERYTHING EVER

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link

28. felix da housecat - kittenz and thee glitz
27. most of the chain reaction records
26. the basic channel cd

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

About as much as isn't overrated in the rock canon, Anthony.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

not over-rated = 808 State's '90' and 'Ex:El', except by me maybe ;)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

25. the collected works of throbbing gristle
24. cabaret voltaire - 2X4

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

No one really rates Confield and Draft. I'd have put Amber (and EP7) as my overrated choices.

Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Draft 7.30 was my favorite electronic album of 2003

(Jon L), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link

22. Air 'Moon Safari' - half of it majestic for sure, the other half wishy-washy twee fuckery tho and that don't a good album make quite

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone says Underworld and I kill thee.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

strongo is so wrong abt 34.

does anybody still rate leftfield?

m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I've checked with the judges and 808 State records prior to "Gorgeous" do not qualify here, sorry.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

21. underworld - dubnobasswithmyheadman
20. underworld - second toughest in the infants
19. underworld - that other shitty one

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

my point precisely jsoulja

i WAS gonna mention 'A Hundred Days Off', i was surprised it seemed to get good reviews all round but it's an album of occasional great moments rather than thru and thru quality and freshness

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

let's face it, "home listening [X]" was a big pile of ass

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

DIE SABOTEUR

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Leftfield:

'Leftism': only real flaw is it's painful '95-ness, if that makes sense. i enjoyed that year tho so it suits me. the poem at the end is bloody silly tho

'rhythm & Stealth': a bit too much boring minimalist thudthud but a lot of fantastic moments still - not quite worth the wait tho i guess

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

18. Squarepusher, Feed Me Weird Things
17. Squarepusher, Hard Normal Daddy
16. Squarepusher, Music is One Rotted Note
15. Squarepusher, Selection Sixteen
14. Squarepusher, Go Plastic

I'm sure his other albums are equally bad, but these are the ones I've heard too much of.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

31. derrick may - innovator
27. most of the chain reaction records

-- strongo hulkington (dubplatestyl...), June 3rd, 2004.


Shit, Strongo! you've got ballz to say the things you say

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

haha maybe we should have just said "warp: 1992-present" and been done with it

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

i go where other nerds are afraid to go!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

like the shower

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Why, Ken? Those seem like totally sensible statements to make.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Does anyone need more than one Basic Channel and Chain Reaction record?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I swear I can't remember the last time I felt the need to listen to a record by the "Detroit Three".

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 June 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

13. Oval - Diskont94

pure contempt.

(Jon L), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

belleville three, alex

and the subtle inflections of the envelope filter are stunning displayed on chainzzzzzzzzz

oh, while i am here:

13. dj/rupture - gold teeth thief

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

strongo, i'll trade you 'ultraworld' for 12. 'geogaddi'

m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link

re: incunabulababapapaoomaumau

You know Incunabula is a real word, right strongo?

noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i just couldnt remember how to spell it

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it's maybe a question of the whole Chain Reaction sound being overrated, but that can also be said of Kompakt, Warp, etc.

Hmmmm.....can the same be said of Mo'Wax? Or do they escape such scrutiny? UNKLE was/is certainly overrated.....

jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

but that happens in every genre

Exactly?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link

ok thought we were saying electronic stuff gets pegged as dated more than other genres and positing theories as to why

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

that was Moka's post i dont really agree w it either

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

100% agree w/r/t Isolee. Rest is much better than wearemonster, but perhaps the people who loved wearemonster were new to the genre and so they overvalued the album because they weren't around for the release of Rest.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

it's an obvious point but dance music can get just as caught up in roots and tradition as others musics, like deep house for ex

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

it's not all "must generate new alien sounds"

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

I think stuff that's using a brand new instrument or tool gets pegged to a time... until there's a revival a couple decades later and then people marvel about how "contemporary" something sounds

sometimes it's just revisiting older sounds, but other times it's enthusiasm for something new that's a different take

for instance, all the eurorack stuff now

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

do I need to dig around and find out what eurorack is ?

mark e, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link

it’s a modular synth system

chant down basildon (NickB), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

someone had the genius idea to come up with a standard form factor/voltage/specified cable for modular synth units so you can put them all in a little box or cabinet and plug them all together using the same cables

you've heard a bunch of stuff in recent years made that way, trust me

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link

it's the thule roofbars of synth

chant down basildon (NickB), Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link

you've heard a bunch of stuff in recent years made that way, trust me

I have no doubt that's true.
however, I have never heard that phrase before.
ta.

mark e, Thursday, 17 May 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

someone had the genius idea to come up with a standard form factor/voltage/specified cable for modular synth units so you can put them all in a little box or cabinet and plug them all together using the same cables

Robert Moog did that in 1964!

Vast Halo, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

"today" is my jam off wearemonster, so so dope

brimstead, Thursday, 17 May 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

xp yeah, but someone had that genius idea again in the mid 90s

and thus the cycle of modular synth rises again

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Friday, 18 May 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link

btw the coolest niche thing now is the vcv rack software, which in a recursive manner, emulates and gives people a way to build modular synths in software and wire them up. other software has done it but this is a pretty cool framework

link for a nice example https://www.facebook.com/groups/vcvrack/permalink/184204178906401/

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Saturday, 19 May 2018 03:18 (five years ago) link

Mark Fell is God, afaic

― brimstead, Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:16 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^

like for all of the interviews he gives where he's just so anti-dancing (yawn), he sure has made some v. funky (and gorgeous) music

you bet, nancy (map), Saturday, 19 May 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link

Wearemonster generated a lot of buzz at the time but it doesn't seem to have lasted in the critical memory in the way that, say, Alcachofa has. Isolee in general now feels like one of those producers who made so many great, detail-packed records and now gets overlooked in the rush to lay hosannas on Villalobos as the crowning auterish genius of his era.

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 May 2018 09:49 (five years ago) link

(Beau Mot Plage has lasted, obviously, but individual tracks rarely feel over or underrated in the way that albums do)

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 May 2018 09:51 (five years ago) link

I like a lot of early Bicep tracks and remixes but their album was just really formulaic and boring, not in a joyous and familiar way but in a predictable and unthrilling way

Yeah. I bought the album purely on the strength of seeing it appear several times in the ILM 'best of 2017' poll, not previously having heard a note of it. I was quite dismayed by how pedestrian it is. Probably the first time that the hivemind has let me down.

Vast Halo, Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:18 (five years ago) link

"probably the first time that the hivemind has let me down"

If that was only your first time, you're in for a world of hurt

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 19 May 2018 11:25 (five years ago) link

challop: SAW 2 is 85% meh

El Tomboto, Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

I have a bunch of Thomas Koner CDs that I picked up because The Wire was all over them, and I'm still not sure just what the hell I'm supposed to be hearing! (The Porter Ricks stuff is pretty good, though.)

henry s, Saturday, 19 May 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link

Wearemonster generated a lot of buzz at the time but it doesn't seem to have lasted in the critical memory in the way that, say, Alcachofa has. Isolee in general now feels like one of those producers who made so many great, detail-packed records and now gets overlooked in the rush to lay hosannas on Villalobos as the crowning auterish genius of his era.

― Matt DC, Saturday, May 19, 2018 4:49 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this to me feels like a better example of 'overrated' than villalobos for that reason kinda? like, i also actually want to listen to achso but not wearemonster

that said 'rest' is pretty awesome to me still in the way that mid 00s villalobos is

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 19 May 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link

I've always felt that way about SAW2

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 19 May 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

köner is awesome
thirded on the SAW2 "what gives?"

massaman gai, Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

I agree with the post upthread to the effect that a lot of the excitement around Wearemonster was catch-up for people who missed Rest the first time around. The former is still a great record IMO, but Isolee's "auteur" period was really in the years leading up to and culminating with Rest (see also the early singles, many of which ended up on Western Stores, and stuff like the remix of Blaze's "Lovelee Dae").

There's still total classic tracks in the following years like the "Lent" and "Sweet Chat Rio" remixes from 2003, and especially the "Cardiology" and "Africa / Brazil" remixes from 2004, but they're more like superb dancefloor articulations of all of the producer's assembled tricks and tactics (no surprises that this stuff is often my favourite Isolee) (actually in retrospect Playhouse really missed a trick by not putting out a remixes collection at about that point).

The fact that Isolee was really an auteur in the years before the microhouse / minimal crossover means that, while Wearemonster arguably was overrated on release, Isolee as an artist is now underrated - perhaps because more people had the luxury of following the tail end of Villalobos' classic era in real time, it's easier to think of his work as "important" in a way that is less obvious for Isolee.

Tim F, Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link


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