50 Foot Wave / Kristin Hersh

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Or, you know, the last Throwing Muses album. FOXCORE is pushing things just a smidgypoo - for one, the drumming on Golden Ocean beats the pants off any of the drummin' on them there thangs.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Not that drumming is a FOXCORE thing.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

All I know if I feel naked without my flannel when listening to it.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link

is I.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link

and yeah, the drumming is pretty slamtastic here. I never heard the 2000 Muses reunion album. Last Hersh album I heard in full was Sunny Border Blue or whatever that one was called.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

The last Muses album = the Muses making like 50 Foot Wave as best they can (w/ small helpings of Tanya Donnelly back-up vox). David N. can't bring the ruckus as well as the 50 Ft. drummer can. Regardless, it's the stuff, & I LOVE IT! (& it wasn't 2000, was it? The album came out 2ish years ago, I thought, paired w/ Ms. Hersh going it solo via The Grotto.)

& I totally get the grunge voibe (esp. w/ the wah-wah in full effect). But calling KH & Zee Wave FOXCORE, to me, is like calling The Ramones MALL PUNK. Ah, semantics schemantics - the album kicks ass, QED.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

They were pretty great with the Pixies this winter and the ep they put out before the record is great, though I assume it's the same songs as the album.

dan. (dan.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I think 3 songs overlap, including "Clara Bow" (the best of the bunch, in both cases). Still worth the US$14 (est.) for Golden Ocean, tho.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Golden Ocean is, indeed, furiously essential.

This thread may be the impetus I need to finally just get that last Muses record...

What's David N doing these days??

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Ooh, thank you wonderful people for reminding me that it's imperative for me to acquire Golden Ocean.

Ian Riese-Moraine. To Hell with you and your gradual evolution! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link

The first four or five tracks are, like, the best EP this year pretty much. It's like 'Flip Your Wig' or something, but with better production and, er, Kristin Hersh singing

DJ Mencap0))), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link

FWIW, my write-up on said awesomeness is available @ P!tchf0rk - it's a restrained write-up (numerically speaking), but the words are all luv.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I think 3 songs overlap, including "Clara Bow" (the best of the bunch, in both cases). Still worth the US$14 (est.) for Golden Ocean, tho.

Apparently they've been remastered with (at least for Clara Bow) new bass parts.

Going to the Sheffield show tonight (Mon). Permanent hearing loss is eagerly anticipated. Though I'm disappointed by the lack of publicity for this tour - somebody posted on the throwingmusic board that the Liverpool show was practically deserted.

I played Golden Ocean to my boss at work last week, casually mentioned the Sheffield show, and he immediately ordered me to use the company credit card to buy tickets for everyone in the office. Further evidence of the awesomeness of Kristin's powers.

chris j (chris j), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Just heard Golden Ocean and am hooked as well. Great stuff, this.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

A month later and I still don't have it. My priorities are so skewered.

Ian Riese-Moraine's Plateau Rouge! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I like it more every time I listen to it.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 May 2005 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link

This is a good album. My band is opening for 50 Foot Wave at the Entry in June...I'm excited.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

RIYL: Fontanelle, Bricks Are Heavy, Pretty On The Inside

It's way better than those chunks of dung.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't help myself:

Slut-kiss girls won’t you promise her smack
Is she pretty on the inside
Is she pretty from the back
Slut-kiss girl won’t you water her back
Is she pretty on the inside
Baby pretty from the back
Slut-kiss girl we’ll have some rot black strap
Is she ugly on the inside
Baby ugly ugly from the back
My pretty power my pretty power
My pretty power my ugly
Slut-kiss girls won’t you promise her smack
Is she pretty on the inside
Is she ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly

Bad boy
Rows and rows of angel hair
And ice cream pencils baby do they care
And fibre yah glass where is she powered that way
Blues and shoes but this isn’t ugly
Yah where is it a marriage in a wheel
Will to calls that way
But now they only block the sun
They rain and snow on everyone so so many things
Wow hey I made it down
I I i I made it mosh in everyone acid hair
Acid stars you’re getting there
Is she high that way
But now it’s just another show
Your living life as ready go
It’s all it’s all a doll no a doll
Give me a shelf of a whore
Yah now my friends are ugly strange
They shake their heads man
They gave us a trap well
We’ll send this love as
Rearrange of who of
Baby I lie with pictures now
From riddle love and streets of gold
He says he reach of a candy heart of
I really love it I really don’t know
I really don’t know I really don’t know
I really don’t know like I used to live
Yah berry parts and I wow what was it

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

RIYL: Fontanelle, Bricks Are Heavy, Pretty On The Inside

It's way better than those chunks of dung.

Mmmm, NOPE. (But Golden Ocean is awesome awesome awesome.)

Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Frankly, I hear more in common with the Plasmatics than with Babes, L7, or Hole. Oh wait, miccio made that comparison. All is clear now.

Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

:(

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 26 May 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Aw geez, it was just a little playful ribbing!

Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 26 May 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link

haha that's the only emoticon I ever allow myself to use

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 26 May 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

For any Twin Cities ILXORs that would like to see my band and 50 Foot Wave, we're playing this friday at the Entry

Friday, June 10th
7th St. Entry

50 Foot Wave
Maps of Norway (my band)
The Slats

10 adv/12 door
Doors open 8pm, we probably won't go on until around 11 or so, maybe a little before...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey this show is tonight....I still have one guestlist spot available if someone wants to go.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 10 June 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't know you were in this band! Why didn't you tell us before you played SF????

local promotions for stuff kind of sucks, I didn't even know the show was happening until that day and I couldn't make it. blah.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Finally scored the album today, hooray!
I didn't know you were in this band! Why didn't you tell us before you played SF????

haha no i'm not in 50 Foot Wave...I was in the local Mpls opener Maps of Norway.

In any case, the show went FANTASTIC.

Ned, a guy from the Current promo dept who was there doing there said Maps of Norway reminded him of the Chameleons, and I thought of you : )

Pretty much totally full....got to meet Kristen and the bass player dude (can't remember his name) who I think was in Throwing Muses as well....very nice folks.

People seemed to like us, and were at least paying attention and standing up front, which is nice for an opening band. Had a lot of fun.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 June 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Bernard Georges is the bassist, no?
Yep...same guy from the Muses right? Really nice dude.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 June 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Free 50 Foot Wave EP (titled "Free Music") can be found here
http://www.throwingmusic.com/

Download, share, stream, blog, etc. Let's rock.

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 6 January 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Their drummer ROCKS. A great live band, what a nice return to form.

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 6 January 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay, thanks for info Je4nn3! Have been in the k-hersh mood lately, so this is great news!

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Friday, 6 January 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

coo, thanks for the heads up *excited all over again*

I was way too slow in getting a copy of Golden Ocean, finally did so last month. Predictably fab.

I think I prefer David N's drumming, but the 50 Foot guy flails away most enjoyably.

Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 6 January 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

cool thx for the link...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 6 January 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

You're all welcome :)

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 6 January 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

This so rocks:

The band will be offering FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) files as well as hi-resolution mp3 files. The band is also encouraging fans to seed BitTorrents and set up CD burning trees to ensure that people without time or technology may also receive the free music.

The band states its goal as simply to circumvent the 'money cycle' and get high quality (free) recordings into the hands of a maximum number of people for evaluation at their leisure.
[...]
The band's manager, Billy O'Connell, says, "The capacity for reaching new ears with unknown music has become so diminished that we felt we had to try a new approach. It has become prohibitively expensive to reach people via traditional marketing means (radio, press, retail promotion) - lately, CD distribution costs and even touring costs have gone through the roof.

"This project is simply attempting to tap the power of the network -- we're asking individuals for their enthusiasm rather than their money. It's an experiment we're eager to see play out."

The band's founder, Kristin Hersh, explains, "Money has so polluted the music world that my overwhelming urge right now is to divorce money from recorded music. Over the last 2 years we've been relying on standard 'industry' channels to help us educate listeners about 50 Foot Wave and we've met resistance every step of the way -- caused by little other than money -- and to an extent I've never seen before.

"So we're sending free recordings off into the world to do their work. If people enjoy these songs and are excited by them, we ask that they share them with others. The music business is about fame and huge profits -- egos and greed -- music itself, is not."

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 7 January 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

50FtWave are wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.

Kristin's son Dylan finally has a band of his own, too. Good Morning L.A., I think they're called.

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Sunday, 8 January 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link

holy crap that makes me feel old

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 8 January 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

she's still cute as a button:

http://www.throwingmusic.com/freemusic/FreeMusicPhotos/FreeMusicPhoto2small.jpg

miss michel legrand (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 9 January 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, she doesn't seem to age.

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Monday, 9 January 2006 05:04 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
holy shit. "Golden Ocean" is GREAT.

bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i interviewed kristin over the phone a few days ago. she's easily, i mean like far and away, the nicest, funniest and most instantly likeable famous person i have ever encountered. which makes it all the better when you see her walk onstage and start screaming like she's possessed.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 4 September 2006 07:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I heart Kristin Hersh.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 4 September 2006 07:25 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
i almost never listen to 50 foot wave, but when i do, i listen to the two albums over and over.

apparently there's a new kristin solo album out in january!

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 19 November 2006 07:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It's leaked. I've only had a chance to listen a couple times, and was distracted while doing so, but it sounds at least ok. A few uptempo tracks.

dlp9001 (dlp9001), Sunday, 19 November 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i think throwing muses are touring again this winter, as well

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 19 November 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Had to look it up in iTunes...

It's called "Learn To Sing Like A Star." Cute song title: "Christian Hearse" (actually a short interlude of her son playing guitar or something like that).

dlp9001 (dlp9001), Sunday, 19 November 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i think they're just doing their one-off san francisco show again.

the grotto has become one of my favourites. i've been playing a lot of the songs myself on my electric w/ distortion and tremolo which makes them sound wonderfully spooky. they're incredible songs for pacing and dynamics, esp. 'deep wilson'

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

saw her do readings with giant sand making soundtracky noise behind her in london last year, it was remarkable. interviewed her in january for a magazine that might not be coming out now, as ever she was wonderful, funny, moving, etc... she just rules, doesn't she?

Republicans voiced concern about young pages hearing the word uterus (stevie), Saturday, 9 April 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Always a good idea to check out the website every once-in-a-while to see what's new for public consumption.

http://50footwave.cashmusic.org/

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 29 September 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

So obviously there are like 50 years worth of other bands and songs that could have done this for me, but listening to Power + Light pretty much nonstop over the last few weeks just inspired me to my first fuzzbox purchase.

beachville, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

nice. wat fuzz u get for ur fuzzin' needs?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

Just a Little Big Muff. I'm on a pretty tight budget these days. But the fields of fuzz from this album are just impossible to resist and I want to play in them too.

beachville, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

lbm is a great muff imo. some will say otherwise but it's kept a few pricier boutique muffs off my board. between the tone and sustain knobs there are a lot of great and classic sounds in there. smooth sustainy gilmour lead fuzz, massive wall of pumpkins fuzz, trashy dime store black keys fuzz etc.

there are a few distinct flavors of fuzz and iirc kh used a roland bee-ba a lot on that record. discontinued now and hard to find but if you want to explore more fuzz flavors there are now several good versions available from independent builders.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

According to the guy who recorded them, she primarily used a Quadrafuzz, which is a build-your-own kinda thing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/mudrock5000/CIMG0575.jpg

http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/just-a-gear-question-for-k

beachville, Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

whoa. nice. that microsynth has some crazy stuff in it too.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:58 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5x0-sWeStg

Marco YOLO (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

haha, cute. is there a duet album in the works? Throwing Francis

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

lord almighty this woman can howl. "a rushing" has been killin" it for me.

how's life, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 10:02 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

So, this happens
No it doesn't
Yeah, this happens
Well it shouldn't

how's life, Friday, 21 December 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

Here comes the thunder
There goes the rain

how's life, Friday, 22 March 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

where is this new muses album that's been done for ages?

akm, Friday, 22 March 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

if by "ages" you mean "a couple of months"? but anyway it's being released with an accompanying book (like Crooked) so there's that to get done. official word is late summer:

http://www.kristinhersh.com/forums/topic/new-muses-album-release-date/

katherine, Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

specifically: "Two conversations yesterday with Harper Collins in London and NYC and we’re looking at Aug 22, right now. This date could change a bit, but not too much."

katherine, Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

does it really have 32 songs on it?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 23 March 2013 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

yessssssssss!

You've been yelped (stevie), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link

Oh, and some of the works in progress available here:

https://www.kristinhersh.com/Releases/50-foot-wave_night-blooming/

how's life, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

More at same link now?

Jeff W, Monday, 1 December 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

grungy goodness.

put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 12:44 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...
seven years pass...

uhh how did i not realize this band until now

feel like an idiot. wow incredible songs. she's like 60?? just wow

Swen, Monday, 29 January 2024 16:15 (two months ago) link

she's only 57! and is probably one of the most prolific artists working today... Throwing Muses album in 2020, 50 Foot Wave album in 2022, solo album in 2023, plus she writes amazing books!

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:30 (two months ago) link

been a throwing muses / solo fan for years - the prolific-ness is quite insane. def enjoyed the 2020 muses record, will check out the solo from last year.

Swen, Monday, 29 January 2024 16:32 (two months ago) link

i keep finding that my gratitude for Kristin will not relent

Swen, Saturday, 3 February 2024 23:38 (two months ago) link


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