New Radicals: C/D?

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That album sounds suspiciously like later period Stones, don't it?

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Saturday, 2 August 2003 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

Or late-period Waterboys.

Nom De Plume (Nom De Plume), Saturday, 2 August 2003 23:04 (twenty years ago) link

Alexander/Brisebois had a hand in several tracks on the Carly Henessey record also. . .

Jeff Wright, Sunday, 3 August 2003 02:30 (twenty years ago) link

Before I knew who it was, I thought "You Get What You Give" was a new World Party song.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 3 August 2003 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

me too!

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 02:54 (twenty years ago) link

"Before I knew who it was, I thought "You Get What You Give" was a new World Party song.

-- Andrew Frye (andrewjfry...), August 3rd, 2003."

oh man...I have a very distinct memory of being in a car with my brother the first time either of us heard it on the radio, and we both said "is this World Party?"

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 3 August 2003 04:49 (twenty years ago) link

07/12/1999
New Radicals Disband
by MCA Records
From VH1.com: New Radicals leader Gregg Alexander announced Monday (July 12) he is disbanding his alternative-pop band, whose only album, Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too (1998), featured the name-dropping hit "You Get What You Give." The


singer/songwriter said he wants to focus his efforts on producing. "I view myself much the same as a just-getting-started Babyface," he said in a statement, referring to the producer of such hit acts as Mary J. Blige, Whitney Houston, Boyz II Men and Madonna. Alexander said he will produce an album, due in September, by singer/actress Danielle Brisebois, who was a member of the New Radicals. "Over the last several months, I'd lost interest in fronting a one-hit wonder to the point that I was wearing a hat while performing so that people wouldn't see my lack of enthusiasm," Alexander said.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:36 (twenty years ago) link

he hid in his basement for like 2 weeks avoiding performances (or something)

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:53 (twenty years ago) link

I liked it so much I bought the album! Silly me.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 3 August 2003 09:21 (twenty years ago) link

I love that kind of poppy sincerity so it shouldn't be too much of a surprise (cf Where Is The Love which is surely the hip-hop equivalent)

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 3 August 2003 09:22 (twenty years ago) link

I LOVE that song! Tom is the album that poor? I'd imagine I'll run into it really cheap sometime, and I'd kinda forgotten about it till I saw this thread, and now I WANT IT.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 3 August 2003 09:35 (twenty years ago) link

It's not poor so much as just boring. The first song's alright IIRC.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 3 August 2003 10:13 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, i get the sincerity love, but there's some distinctinly un-Tom-ish in the... i wanna say 'grain' of the song. i don't know.


mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 3 August 2003 10:24 (twenty years ago) link

too boring to be either c or d.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 3 August 2003 11:33 (twenty years ago) link

It's a rock pop song, you mean?

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 3 August 2003 12:36 (twenty years ago) link

I've heard of those.

It suddenly occurs to me I don't know if I've ever heard this song. I THOUGHT I did.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 August 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link

u have blocked it out of your memory since it's forgettable at best. don't believe the hype, or joni mitchell, et al. it was just a snotty, nasaly whine about beck and courtney love and the video took place in some giant souless corporate mall as far as i can remember (there WAS a lethora of escalator riding u must admit), rendering all of his bitchy capitalist compaints null and voice. plus, he was not hot

Vic (Vic), Sunday, 3 August 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link

ned you've heard it, c'mon, you've heard everything!
someone put that song on a mix tape for me some time ok?

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 3 August 2003 14:37 (twenty years ago) link

Weirdly, I've just heard this on the radio (in Tesco, fittingly) having not thought about it for years pre-thread. It's not quite as bad as I remember. I recall I always refused to listen to it because his voice pissed me off so much (it sounds like my mother's dog barking), but it's not a bad tune. Doubt I'll think about it for the next few years though.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 3 August 2003 14:39 (twenty years ago) link

hey vic can you remember if he *walked* on the escalator or just stood on it? cause if the latter ok yr right this song is no good @ all but if the former i still think it rules rules rules.

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 3 August 2003 14:39 (twenty years ago) link

ned you've heard it, c'mon, you've heard everything!

Not EVERYTHING everything. ;-) Anyway, I know I must have, it's just not sticking in the memory.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 August 2003 14:39 (twenty years ago) link

haha i meant void of course..thats an astroloical term, moon void-of-course, oops! unknown: i think he walked, hopped and skipped all over it, so maybe the song is a lil better than im giving it credit for

Vic (Vic), Sunday, 3 August 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

The official site on MCA records has a link to the video, if you want to EDJYUCATE yourself, Ned.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 3 August 2003 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

he DID write that Santana Michelle Branch song

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 3 August 2003 18:19 (twenty years ago) link

That single was SUCH a golden bit of pop splendour; one of my very favourite pop songs.

The album's first track is good, but it rips off Depeche Mode's 'Just Can't get Enough', probably winkingly. I picked it up a few months back for 2.99; definitely worth the price.

derrick (derrick), Monday, 4 August 2003 04:57 (twenty years ago) link

"someday we'll know" is actually a very touching song.

"If I could ask god just one question...why arn't you here with me...TONIGHT!?"

shivers and goosebumps all around

^_^, Sunday, 10 August 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

I own the album too though haven't listened to it in years. I remember liking the first three songs and nothing else.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Sunday, 10 August 2003 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
Joni Mitchell was right--about the only decent thing to come out of 1990s pop was "You Only Get What You Give," which played in 12 movies, 6 TV series and some 60 or 70 TV commercials and radio commercials within 4 years. That hasn't happened since Debbie Boone sang, "You light up my life," if you believe Carson's revelation on MTV a few weeks ago. "Someday we'l know" was equally good, video too, and was the single "I don't wanna die anymore." If you hate it so much, don't listen to it. Gregg may have realized he was in over his head wanting recording fame.So he is wise to get out. We have had enough Jimis and Janises and Jims and Karen carpenters to kill themselves for music business. Smart move, Greg. And danielle will become a famous singer. She is gorgeous and her voice is really good, your drummer is excellent, so was the rest of the radicals.

Robin Fletcher, Wednesday, 7 September 2005 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you work for Gregg Alexander, Robin?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

lol at the idea Gregg Alexander can currently afford to pay staff.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

He made a killing off "The Game of Love."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:31 (eighteen years ago) link

yah dom, gregg has been a successful songwriter post-radicals.

huell howser (chaki), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:47 (eighteen years ago) link

He probably made a bit off "Murder On The Dancefloor" too.

The 2005 dance remix of "You Get What You Give" is teh suck though.

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The above-referenced '99 Danielle Brisebois record hasn't appeared yet, though some promo copies did get out. . .

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Thursday, 8 September 2005 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i hated tha song....
but then afterwards i met him in london at popstarz and i shagged him.
shame he stank!

hub, Thursday, 8 September 2005 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link

And danielle will become a famous singer.

Don't hold your breath. Oh wait, on second thought, do hold your breath.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 8 September 2005 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Why all the love for a truly awful, vapid band and positively banal song? I'd like to say more bad things about it, but there's just no substance to it at all. It's truly bland shite.

And the irony of the message of the lyrics in such a mass-marketed song.

Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 8 September 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate that song too. I hate it even more than that terrible song about Snoopy vs. the Red Baron.

estela (estela), Thursday, 8 September 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I love that song.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Last time I visited my parents, this song came on the radio. My mother and I sang along. Then "Mr Blue Sky" by ELO came on. Gregg Alexander singlehandedly repaired my relationship with my mum! CLASSIC!

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Can't really decide which is worse....this or "What's Up" by 4 Non Blondes.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link

And the irony of the message of the lyrics in such a mass-marketed song.

-- Sasha (ahmar...), September 8th, 2005.

eh?

N_RQ, Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Too busy pitching the song to every network, movie studio and ad agency imaginable to get around to that whole "kicking Marilyn Manson's ass" pledge, I guess.

disco violence (disco violence), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

No, he had the time to do all the pitching 'cause Marilyn etc never took him up on the offer to "come around."

Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

"Neither new nor radical"

know who said that? someone on telextext that's who said that.

jive session (elwisty), Thursday, 8 September 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Kennedy's "your mama" is just another proof of Greg Alexander's godlike genius.

snowballing (snowballing), Thursday, 8 September 2005 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

"You got the music in you" empowered teh youth with sincerity, but in many ways it was Alexander's ode to himself, his, how you say, self-challenging manifesto to not only write slick pop hits for others but to embody "the music in him" as a performer himself. I salute this!

jb, Thursday, 8 September 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

also, IMMENSE dud.

jb, Thursday, 8 September 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

i once had an interview with this dude devolve into a huge argument about (wait for it) music's capacity to affect political change. he very honestly felt he could change the world with the right song.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 8 September 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree with him. You've heard "A Mighty Fortress?"

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 8 September 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

There is a book about that band’s rise & fall, by the drummer; it (naturally) discusses “Closing Time” at length: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/168438/so-you-wanna-be-a-rock-and-roll-star-by-jacob-slichter/

one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link

are you suggesting there are flaws in the methodology of whiney's hipster studies

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, January 21, 2021 1:18 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Here's the graph

Here's the "You Get What You Give" micro-generation line graph

• Most passionate number of likes from 34-38 y/o group
• Biggest dissension in the 40-44 y/o group
• Highest concentration of clueless ppl are 43-48 y/o pic.twitter.com/M4gq0jG09L

— Christopher R. Weingarten (@1000TimesYes) January 21, 2021

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

always thought he sounded like one of the Sifl & Olly dudes

frogbs, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

There is a book about that band’s rise & fall, by the drummer; it (naturally) discusses “Closing Time” at length: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/168438/so-you-wanna-be-a-rock-and-roll-star-by-jacob-slichter/

― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Thursday, January 21, 2021 1:05 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I've read this - it's pretty amusing

frogbs, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

"in need of a miracle" is my fav deep cut

― boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 2:23 PM (yesterday)

This is correct.

too many notes

― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, January 21, 2021 4:52 AM (five hours ago)

I appreciate this.

I showed my dad this performance and he laughed and laughed. We're going to listen to this album again on my next night off.

hourspass, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

i... didn't foresee this song being like a dad / son thing?

satanist of size (map), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

My dad liked "You Get What You Give" as well. I'm pretty sure I remember him thinking it was Mick Jagger at first.

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I can hear that.

I thought it was World Party.

...
nothing
...

Mark G, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link

no way is the vocal on "Got You Where I Want You" generic --- dude is giving his all to a very specific imitation of Chris Cornell

and somehow, it rules

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link

(why Samson loved Delilah)

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link

i... didn't foresee this song being like a dad / son thing?

― satanist of size (map), Thursday, January 21, 2021 10:31 AM (fifty-nine minutes ago)

Maybe it's an age thing? I'm 31, and my dad is 70. I definitely think he thought it was older than it was, and so did our radio station, because it was on the classic rock station when he first heard it when it came out.

hourspass, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link

Isn't the whole reason they reformed for the inauguration that the song was a father/son thing for Joe and Beau Biden?

Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link

Great reason, honestly.

hourspass, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link

I hated this song at the time, but that's because I hated most things at the time-- I was a fat queer kid who was really into hardcore and crustpunk.

Now I think it's pretty good.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 12:18 (three years ago) link

And I'm 36, fwiw

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 12:18 (three years ago) link

Feel like the inaugural performance was really missing the piano. It was too quiet. That song is all about the piano to me.

Evan, Friday, 22 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

yeah it was definitely low in the mix

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link

so this had to have been the most dad rock version of this track -- at least live

not that the world is clamouring for more controversy, but totally omitting the last part was lame

Punster McPunisher, Saturday, 23 January 2021 06:10 (three years ago) link

woulda made the song sound even more dated.

Beck? Hanson? Manson?

throw in a Everlast ref and we complete the cycle

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 06:15 (three years ago) link

so, not necessarily singing it word for word, but changing it up to fit with the times while still keeping the same intent

but considering this was a song beau used to listen to a lot, maybe biden had other reasons to have them perform

Punster McPunisher, Saturday, 23 January 2021 06:56 (three years ago) link

pretty sure 50% of my love for that song is dedicated to the fact of my upbringing and seeing that inside-out Mickey Mouse shirt I used to wear when I was 7.

Let’s talk Fuel.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 23 January 2021 07:13 (three years ago) link

woulda made the song sound even more dated.

yeah, keeping the bit about the US' twisted health insurance system directly leading to preventable deaths would have totally sounded out of date

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 23 January 2021 07:25 (three years ago) link

I was referring to the musician part of that coda but i take your point

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:47 (three years ago) link

Feel like the inaugural performance was really missing the piano. It was too quiet. That song is all about the piano to me.

This is true.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 23 January 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link

Old Gregg was weird to see, his front teeth are still cute, but:

Yeah, "You Get What You Give" was used in an episode of Glee, but that almost a decade ago.

THIS is what made me ponder my own mortality, holy fucking shit

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 23 January 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link

I just came here to make a point about the bucket hat— my friend's kids who are in high school have been rocking these. The kids are into late 90s fashion/shit from right before they were born, from what I can tell.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Saturday, 23 January 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

I am about Brian Johnson's hat

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 24 January 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link


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