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Why is that no one on Soulseek has the "Crystal Clear" b-sides? I just know that I'm going to order it on import, and a day later, it'll pop up on soulseek.

I saw both the White Stripes and the Fiery Furnaces this week, and I just don't think they are as similar as some people make them out to be. There's some similar influences (the Stripes are heavy into blues and 70s riff rock, the Furnaces touch on the blues and 70s riff rock here and there, but not quite as literally as the Stripes), but the approach of the bands are very different. I think the two bands compliment each other very well, I don't think they need to exist in opposition to each other at all. The two bands just feel very different.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 23 November 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

In other words: they are both great bands. There's no good reason to pick or the other.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 23 November 2003 20:13 (twenty years ago) link

!

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 23 November 2003 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

Now everybody hug. Christ.

roger adultery, Sunday, 23 November 2003 21:20 (twenty years ago) link

i thought they were pretty good, though you're right, yeah, the keyboards were turned up WAY too loud and kinda had this 'take-me-out-to-the-ballgame' vibe to 'em as a pal noted. also i really wish they'd taken their time with the songs instead of playing them all ridiculously fast. i wonder if they were nervous! i ran into the dude from the furnaces before their set and he expressed fear over his floppy hair falling into his eyes during the show, ha! i think if he had borrowed my headband as i suggested they would've been better!

also what'd people think of franz ferdinand? i thought they were kinda boring!

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 23 November 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

best surprise of the show: running into ilm's very own ARTHUR!! celeb!

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 23 November 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

Franz Ferdinand = kind of boring, but perhaps the most ridiculously "angular" band I've ever witnessed.

I Love Lucy seemed like they had some potential to be a good pop band. I talked to the drummer for a bit, and he was telling me that they weren't signed yet. Somebody really ought to snap them up.

Man, I wish I knew what you folks looked like. I was all alone the whole night cos my friends had to bail due to a) illness b) the hassle of the L train not working after midnight c) birthday parties.

I bet the Fiery Furnaces were nervous, Geeta. Eleanor seemed a little uneasy, and I get the feeling that they aren't comfortable with their new drummer and keyboard player. At one point Matt yelled at the other guy for starting a song with the wrong chord, and then on the last song, Eleanor had to step over to block the guy's hand so that he'd stop playing for a moment to make one part of the song more dynamic. Maybe they will fire him too.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 23 November 2003 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

Hiya, Geeta! I'm a little hungover today. I'd had a few when you ran into me. I ducked out earlier than I normally would have. I'm eager to hear the slower versions of all those Fiery Furnaces songs. And Matthew--I would have loved to thank you in person for putting those Scissor Sisters songs on your blog. Oh well.

So, Franz Ferdinand--a little too grim for me, for the most part. I liked the the more dancey songs, they were alright. I loved the pint-sized powerhouse on stage left. He looked like he could have been in the Dave Clark Five. And the drummer was cute. Did you see the band before that? They were the weirdest twee pop band I've seen in ages. The singer had this mincing Jeremy Piven thing going on, it was quite captivating after awhile.

Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 23 November 2003 21:43 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, those guys were called Gene Dreamy and Gary Sincere. They were really weird. They kept talking about how they just came out of the closet, but still had all of these songs about girls, and they kept making these funny deadpan remarks about their lack of sincerity in regards to the subject matter. I liked it.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 23 November 2003 21:47 (twenty years ago) link

I know, when they first set up the whole routine, I thought, "Oh, great, snide aging indie guys and their lame jokes..." but they were really funny.

Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 23 November 2003 21:51 (twenty years ago) link

I think the key to their comedic staying power came from their total commitment to their joke. They never let up.

The songs weren't half bad for twee pop. There was one song in the middle which I'd really love to get a recording of - I think it was called "I Want A Girl" or something like that.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 23 November 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
i saw a picture of them, the girl seemed quite fetching, so i'm pleased to see that some of the ilxors with good taste like them.

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 2 January 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

sorry amateurist, I like 'em too

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago) link

actually, I have a friend who is haunted by this band because he thinks the girl looks like his mother!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

All of the photos I've seen of Eleanor do little to convey how incredibly skinny she is in person. Her appearance is very striking - her eyes in particular.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 2 January 2004 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

Hey Matthew, I can't seem to get those links to the FF mp3 outtakes on your blog to work. Is there some trick involved? Thanks.

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 3 January 2004 23:43 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, I'm sorry, those old mp3s have gone down because I only keep mp3s up for two weeks at a time. There's an mp3 of them doing The Clash's "One More Time" right here which will still be active for a week or so.

If you use Soulseek, I have all of my FF rarities shared, including the b-sides to the Crystal Clear single. I'm "perpetua" there.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 4 January 2004 01:16 (twenty years ago) link

I'm always there too!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 4 January 2004 01:18 (twenty years ago) link

Thank you, sir. I should really spend more time on Slsk, I feel. I'm attempting to browse your file list as I type. I would tell you my username but I honestly can't remember what it is, and I can't seem to find any reference to it in the app itself.

o. nate (onate), Sunday, 4 January 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link

the clash did a daft punk cover?

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 4 January 2004 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

only in my magical fantasyland where everything is perfect

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 4 January 2004 20:45 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Is anyone else going to see them in London next Tuesday?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 19 February 2004 11:56 (twenty years ago) link

Got sent their new single ('Tropical Ice-Island'). It's really, really good. However, it comes up on Windows Media Player as Lenny Kravitz's Are You Gonna Go My Way. Why?

Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

because that is the bedrock from which all contemporary music derives

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

wow i mixed metaphors like nobody's business

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

whose business is it to mix metaphors anyhow and are they hiring?

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

hmm, I have been invited to see them, on saturday. I have never heard anything by them.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago) link

I still haven't managed to listen beyond track 5 on their album.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago) link

the video is quite cute. i like them much better on record than live, but the show i saw was at north six in brooklyn - an irritating venue with a very unfriendly stage so perhaps it was unrepresentative.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

lauren check yr email

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 19 February 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago) link

RJG - go, I implore you. I have been listening to their lp to the exclusion of almost everything else for a few weeks now.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago) link

If anyone has the new Tropical Ice-Land single on slsk, please let me know! I ordered it online, but I'm not expecting it for another week or two, and I really really really want to hear it because I love the live arrangement of the song.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 February 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

There's a clip of the video here.

The new version is sooooo great!

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 February 2004 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

What's different about the new version? Because the album version was my favorite track on that album; I think I will be resistant to any changes.

Scott, Thursday, 19 February 2004 21:44 (twenty years ago) link

It's a new arrangement. It's more up-tempo, and extremely cheerful-sounding. It's not radically different, just the same song in a different mood. It's fast, but not rocking or hard.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 February 2004 21:55 (twenty years ago) link

The new version is sooooo great!

UGH IT'S AWFUL WHY DID THEY DO THAT??

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

Don't go see them live, then. They play almost everything with different arrangements. I remember the live version of "Tropical Iceland" as being even faster than the single version.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 February 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

I have seen them live, but that was well before the album came out. I missed their last NYC show.

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

RJG - go, I implore you.

OK!!

RJG (RJG), Friday, 20 February 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

i might be there on tuesday!

prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 20 February 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago) link

come to glasgow, once.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 20 February 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

are you going to this, RJG?

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

I went!!!!!

here's what I said:

fiery furnaces were great, btw. they played 'coffee + TV' and 'baby elephant walk' and everything.
-- RJG (r_gillander...), February 22nd, 2004 1:39 AM. (RJG) (later)


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and the girl is hawt.
-- RJG (r_gillander...), February 22nd, 2004 1:40 AM. (RJG) (later)


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and the guy looks like a cross between my flatmate's boyf and a friend of mine's boyf.
-- RJG (r_gillander...), February 22nd, 2004 1:40 AM. (RJG) (later)


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I write better tunes, though.
-- RJG (r_gillander...), February 22nd, 2004 1:40 AM. (RJG) (later)

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 02:20 (twenty years ago) link

It's funny that this thread started with drummer talk because I really felt they could use somebody who'd just pound away, Black-Eyed Snakes-style. Maybe they don't wanna rock, who knows...

Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 22 February 2004 06:51 (twenty years ago) link

the girl is hawt

the guy looks like xander

prima fassy (mwah), Sunday, 22 February 2004 07:26 (twenty years ago) link

So he's hawt, too.

Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 22 February 2004 07:37 (twenty years ago) link

I saw a video by them last week. the girl is 'hawt'. the music wasn't bad but I can't remember much abt it right now.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 22 February 2004 09:26 (twenty years ago) link

the girl is hawt. thirded innit.

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

I am going to stick up for conventional beauty and say she is not hawt and ur all indie.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago) link

I hope it's new stuff. Eleanor's time in the solo trenches would add a fascinating wrinkle

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 05:43 (three years ago) link

IT'S A CLEAR
IT'S A CLEAR
IT'S A CLEAR
IT'S A CLEAR
IT'S A CLEAR
IT'S A CLEAR
IT'S A CLEAR

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 15 June 2020 10:02 (three years ago) link

My original impression of FFs was that they looked like the Carpenters, whose method was cool x cool, but FFs built toward effective contrast: she's cool, never minding the weird shit he's slinging all around her---an extension of, say, Les Paul and Mary Ford. But then Bitter Tea was more like the Carpenters living to fill out more of their forever autumnal penumbrae: she, now slightly husky-voiced, still thin, but still here. wearing her usual cardigan, standing at the window and sipping her bitter tea, looking out over the bay---kind of an Edward Hopper scene, though of course less melodramatic.
Widow City more of an Indie Rock return and advance, don't remember others, except Rehearsing My Choir was already one of my all-time favorite and most effecting and effective wild cars and cards ever.

dow, Monday, 15 June 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

They should get Jack White to play their grandmother and redo Rehearsing My Choir in the Third Man straight-to-lacquer-or-whatever-the-hell phone booth

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Monday, 15 June 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

I happen to be listening to RMC right now (in midst of a chronological revisit of their catalog).

Charging for Brewskis™ (morrisp), Monday, 15 June 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

Hi! We’re excited to share something new with you this week. pic.twitter.com/AQzb68i0fF

— The Fiery Furnaces (@Fiery_Furnaces) June 15, 2020

Charging for Brewskis™ (morrisp), Monday, 15 June 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

^^^CRAIG D SO OTM^^^ Either Jack or Neil, who made his own phonebooth album there.

dow, Monday, 15 June 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

"Don't remember others" after Widow City, that is.

dow, Monday, 15 June 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

omg, just stumbled across this collegetown show preview I wrote in 2010---is this true about I'm Going Away? Don't remember that one at all, well maybe a little, reading this:
The Fiery Furnaces
Wednesday @ Outland
The Fiery Furnaces’ “Rehearsing My Choir” was a soulfully microcosmic pop collaboration of TFF’s central siblings Matthew and Eleanor Friedberger with their late grandmother, Olga Santoros. “Bitter Tea” less challengingly served up Eleanor’s more sultry tones, suggesting a ruefully surviving Karen Carpenter. “Widow City” turned her into a brooding, b-movie troublemaker. The Furnaces’ current “I’m Going Away” has Eleanor channeling the early, innocent fervor of Smokey Robinson and Michael Jackson, simultaneously foreshadowing later detours. Matthew’s cinematically edited catchiness keeps credibility crackling, as relationships burn on (ditto in their volatile shows).

re: "cinematically...crackling...burn on," think I was thinking of old nitrate film stock, this writhing along the edge of frames you can see even in digital transfers sometimes, the stock eating itself in real time (or digital stills of same, in the family album for inst)(pages fluttering like crazy onstage)

dow, Monday, 15 June 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

cmon FFs just tell us what the fuck yer up to

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

https://d1wtzzt4oxg683.cloudfront.net/images/covers/originals_optimised/29/181779.jpg

The Fiery Furnaces
Down at the So and So on Somewhere
Third Man / TMR684
Having collectively released eight solo albums between them since their last album they released together as The Fiery Furnaces over a decade ago, Eleanor and Matthew Friedberger finally unpause their career together. A brand new 7” single available on Third Man, ‘Down At The So And So On Somewhere’, picks up where they left off brilliantly.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pJlgbE-tpWMJ:https://www.normanrecords.com/records/181779-the-fiery-furnaces-down-at-the-so-and+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

just sayin, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 06:04 (three years ago) link

Wikipedia also lists a new single titled "Fortune Teller’s Revenge.”

Searching around for those titles just seems to retrieve inactive pages of online record shops; I apologize for being momentarily irked by the garbled webcache link above.

Charging for Brewskis™ (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 06:48 (three years ago) link

kinda disappointing

sean gramophone, Thursday, 18 June 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

I like it but it sounds like a demo.

Charging for Brewskis™ (morrisp), Thursday, 18 June 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

This song is good, not as good as the high points of their oeuvre but little is

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 18 June 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Anyone buying tickets to these new shows? I don’t think I’ll have a fully vaccinated household yet by November (and they’re playing in like my least favorite L.A. venue).

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Friday, 27 August 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link

I don't mind the El Rey that much, but after seeing them several times back then I'm kinda unexcited? I want to hear how the shows are first. I'm there if they play all of Blueberry Boat.

Fred Armisen on the bill is a huge turn-off.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 August 2021 08:34 (two years ago) link

i have never seen them and hope to one day. i just can't see being inside for a show at the moment and i'm vaccinated. if this was outdoors i might have been more tempted.

Bee OK, Friday, 27 August 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

I wouldn’t mind seeing them but I’m not going to Brooklyn this year

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 27 August 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

(Or to any shows this year honestly)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 27 August 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

yah, I should reiterate that I'm not going to any shows this year too.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 August 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone see any of the shows? Looks like they’re back in the studio (per Eleanor’s Instagram).

I poked around to see if they’ve done any new interviews, but none that I can find. That’s interesting to me—they did a lot of press back in the day, Matt always had a lot to say, they were very active online, etc. Now, their “engagement” seems limited to Eleanor’s social media… Matt is silent, as far as I can tell.

An interviewer would almost surely ask them why they went on such an abrupt (and lengthy) hiatus, and maybe they don’t want to talk about that? There must be a story there. It’s not like they just petered out… they had various projects going in 2009:

The last time we talked you had an extravagant rock opera in the works. Do you still have plans to do this?

MF: We are going to do that. Eleanor was never into it, but now, since we have put out our regular record, we’ll be doing these short little operas live. We might record them live, or eventually record them in the studio, but it won’t be a part of our normal record releasing cycle. Does that make any sense? So we’ll play a different set of shows in which we present our rock opera and maybe we’ll put it out in some form, but really it’s about playing it. Then we have our normal records on the side.

So then what’s the Democracy in America project all about?

MF: That’s a different thing too. It’s actually Dem-Rock-cracy in America. But the next thing we have is a silent record where we don’t provide any audio. In other words, we have a record but the fans play the songs. It will be in book form with sheet music and instructions. Dem-Rock-cracy is a set of us playing music written or determined by things that fans have given us, like bits of paper from their purse or receipts. It’ll be a normal recording, but first it will just be vinyl.

You Suffer (10 Minute Version) (morrisp), Saturday, 13 November 2021 05:03 (two years ago) link

I suspect the spigot will open again once the album is on the verge of coming out, or once wider touring is underway at least.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 13 November 2021 05:07 (two years ago) link

tickets are half off on goldstar for the la show! im def going to check it out. ill come back with a report keeping mind i only ever heard blueberry boat and loved it but forgot it.

kurt schwitterz, Saturday, 13 November 2021 07:14 (two years ago) link

But the next thing we have is a silent record where we don’t provide any audio. In other words, we have a record but the fans play the songs. It will be in book form with sheet music and instructions.

interpreting beck actually doing this a few years later as a continuation of that weird feud they had going for a little bit

ufo, Saturday, 13 November 2021 07:38 (two years ago) link

Ah - I thought the L.A. show was this past week. I’m tempted, but a Wed. night show is pretty rough stuff…

You Suffer (10 Minute Version) (morrisp), Saturday, 13 November 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link


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