― Adam S S (Zephery), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hideous Lump (Hideous Lump), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link
woah @ A DREAM 17 years on.
― pisces, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link
eerie -- I heard this last week. "Nobody But You" and "Style It Takes" are just perfect.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I just bought this a week ago, and was surprised by how much I liked it, but then, in turn, surprised that I thought I wouldn't like it, and so forth. "Forever Changed" is pretty incredible.
― chris.steffen, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 05:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Style it Takes (live) on.. snl?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzzgFOLa63A
― pisces, Thursday, 16 August 2007 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link
pretty sure that clip is from Sanborn's "Night Music" - arguably the best live music show ever broadcast on network TV
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link
good record! used to have the "deluxe edition" with a (i think) black velvet cover, but i'll be damned if i know where that went. looooove the version of "Style It Takes" on Cale's Fragments of A Rainy Season. "You want your freedom, make your freedom mine."
― tylerw, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link
"Night Music" also hosted a fabulosu Pere Ubu performance of "Breath."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link
also Sun Ra, Sonic Youth, etc etc
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link
this really was an unbelievable show
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Show 208
The Pixies Sun Ra Syd Straw Arthur Baker Al Green Sister Carol
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link
still no dvd for the original film?? going for a fortune on amazon/ebay.
you tube to the rescue! (partly at least) http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=songs+for+drella&search=Search
― piscesx, Saturday, 5 July 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha! The person who came up with a much better thread title for this was rebuffed! Despicable! Fuck an ILM! At least it wasn't locked, but why post there?
ARRGH! Even Grimly Fiendish knows this one! Holy hell! Grimly? You know this one? I'm surprised.
Come on guys, talk to me about it. I've got the itch. Sometimes lately I just think I could be happy listening to Lou Reed and John Cale forever. That it would be pretty impossible to exhaust the pleasure I could get from those two men, musically. I'm playing "The Dream" for the first time, now, though. I don't think I actually got this far into this album on the bus last time I played it.
Grimly...you know this???
― Lucking Faptop (Bimble), Saturday, 11 April 2009 07:25 (fourteen years ago) link
"Images" sets my soul on fire, and the hairs on my arms stand on end. There are people who know what it is to feel passion about music, and there are those who don't. There are people who can write sane, 1000 word essays about music, maybe they are even paid for it, and I respect that because I can't relate to it. I side with those who are speechless.
It reminds me of when the last Kate Bush album came out after 12 long years. Now didn't that separate the men from the boys? Some people said "oh shame on you fuckers for losing your critical faculties" and others said "for god's sake shut the fuck up and listen". You know which side I'm on.
― Lucking Faptop (Bimble), Saturday, 11 April 2009 08:41 (fourteen years ago) link
bump
(came here to blather about hearing Drella for the first time this weekend...but Bimble's posts say it all so BUMP instead.)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 5 October 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, the last is a classic Bimble post.
― Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 October 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
one day someone will compile his posts into a Bimble Listener's guide and it will be awesome.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 5 October 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6L0UD_zn4A
they still look so young here don't they? i love the looks Cale is giving Reed, also how they left the bum notes in.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess it's pointless doing a poll for it as A Dream would trounce all the others.
Nah – pretty sure I'd vote for "Style It Takes" or "Small Town."
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, it'd be either "style it takes" or "open house" for me.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I would have pulled the switch on her myself
― buzza, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
cale's "look" in that smalltown video is classic.
― jed_, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
this was one of the first cds i ever purchased. i first got into the velvets and then into this album so i did not find it as amazing as others on this thread (even compared to "loaded"). i liked it a lot though and haven't listened to it for 15 years or more. this was much more like a velvet reunion than the live reunion they did a couple of years later which was rubbish. favourite song, several ones, john cale's "style it takes" of course but i also liked lou reed's straightforward "work" for some reason. quite primitive and simple but i have a soft spot for that kind of strong, puritan working attitude as it is something i lack so much. overall this album is quite consistent and an absolute classic. i have to listen to it again.
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
I got this album as part of my Columbia Music Club 12 CDs for a $1 deal as a teenager
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
btw i found the next lou reed album "magic and loss" even more impressive. there was a thread on it somewhere. that music has got a soul healing quality. for the listener and even more so for the artist. it was about the death of two friends of lou reed. i always thought they had had aids but according to wikipedia they hadn't.
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
some of the best lou reed albums seem to be the ones he wrote about deceased friends.
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
been listening to some lou records i haven't heard on spotify
wow
this is really amazing
i didn't suspect he'd done anything this vital since the 70s
― little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
it really is a nice (and unique) record. sort of too bad these two dudes can't just get together every couple of years and do this kind of thing -- they've obviously got chemistry working in their favor. but they've got a lot of nasty history too i guess.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
I always liked this one best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSxRN0pNciA
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
yeah backing track sounds like stars of the lid or something. when i saw lou in the early 90s he did this one! it was pretty great.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
i like this record because it feels like sort of a little record, somehow u don't demand evenness or shit like that, it makes u generous
― zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
I can't listen to Magic and Loss beyond the obvious cuts. Whenever he essays a Serious Project, a disinterest or at worst cynicism seeps through.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
also am i rite that cale obviously slays reed on this, even tho he claims reed did all the work
― zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
the best songs are cale songs but they all would've been worse w/o lou
― iatee, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno, i'm liking both of their songs
lou's maybe never seemed more human than on this
― little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
They're both in top form.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
I'm with Zvookster - Cale all the way on this. But I'm biased, I've simply never gotten into Lou despite many visitations.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 26 August 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
I just listened to this for the first time in my life. I'm a Cale devotee, Reed skeptic but this is a damn, damn good effort from both.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 26 August 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, and I just visited the Andy Warhol museum in Pittsburgh, some of these tunes played in my head.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
This album is better than any of their solo records.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
whoa whoa
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
It's better than any Cale project released after 1990 though, true.
This album is better than any of their (post-70s) solo records.
― iatee, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
This album is better than anything recorded by the Velvet Underground.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
eh, for me it's probably on par w/ blue mask, music for a new society, new york, wrong way up, etc. which is really good, but let's not get carried away here.
― tylerw, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
this is a good album but it isn't even close to either of their peaks both solo and with VU
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
Is “Trouble with Classicists” based on some stuff Andy actually said?
― The Central Rockaliser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link
I can’t believe you never listened to this, James!
― Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link
Lou called me a rat and I fired him.
― The Central Rockaliser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 03:13 (one year ago) link
But Billy saidBoth those nerds are dead
― The Central Rockaliser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link
https://mubi.com/films/songs-for-drella
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link
Ah brilliant!
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
The story behind the restoration:
https://filmmakermagazine.com/112486-a-haunting-symbiosis-on-ed-lachmans-newly-restored-lou-reed-john-cale-concert-film-songs-for-drella/
I was pretty cool towards the album, but I found the movie on YouTube (a LaserDisc rip) and surprisingly it made a huge difference for me. Something about it made the whole project much more affecting - everything from the projected backdrops to just seeing John and Lou's faces. Probably helps that Lachmann is one of the great cinematographers and that comes through too in the lighting and composition.
Scanning from the original long-lost negatives makes a huge difference. Glad it's streamable but definitely see it projected if you can. I hope this gets a Blu-ray release as well.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
Enjoy, MUBI UK and Ireland subscribers!
― Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 April 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link
John channelling the dreaming Andy is incredible.
― Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 April 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link
xp Can we license the UCAN rights for ILX TV?
― begrudgingly bound by duty of candor (morrisp), Thursday, 21 April 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link
Could be. Have to get back to you.
― Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 April 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
God. Haven't watched the restored live show but like a fool I decided I'd listen to the album while I did some work this afternoon, now I have a great ball of grief welled up in my chest, what a fantastic record and so emotionally complex.
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 25 April 2022 05:41 (one year ago) link
Criterion Channel's got the remastered concert film streaming now.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 October 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link
Cale hair in classic form.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 October 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link
I love this line from Dave Connolly’s AMG review of words for the dying:Perhaps Cale's own unusual hairstyle (which resembles a book of carpet samples more than anything) led him to re-evaluate the impact of an actress who could dance with ten pounds of fruit on her head.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 02:58 (one year ago) link
might be my favourite reed, favourite cale
i had no idea it was considered "lost", i had on (terribly recorded) videotape for years
― mark s, Sunday, 9 October 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link
"but I have some resentments that can never be unmade"
vmic
― mark s, Sunday, 9 October 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
Loved this v much.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 08:40 (one year ago) link
All the more moving for Lou’s unwillingness to emote. But “A Dream” just kills me every time.
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 08:55 (one year ago) link
This is an interview with Lachmsn btw.
https://theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/apr/14/they-didnt-go-round-the-corner-for-beer-lou-reed-and-john-cales-songs-for-drella
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 09:01 (one year ago) link
*Lachman
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 09:02 (one year ago) link
lol @ at that url
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/NbbJuZB.jpg
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link
It's like one guy has hair where the other needs it, and vice-versa
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link
My Songs For Drella statement has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my Songs For Drella statement. pic.twitter.com/qZkO5LXhIW— Andrew Male (@Andr6wMale) November 6, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 November 2022 11:46 (one year ago) link
classic drella tbh, coaxing two highly stormy ppl into the same art space to see what trasnpires
the factory was a drama factory, it's all good fun until some loses a lung
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 11:51 (one year ago) link
Now reminded somehow of The Philosophy of Andy Warhol (From A to B and Back Again) and thinking they should have worked that into Patriot somehow. #onethread
― (We're Not) The Experimental Jet Set (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 November 2022 12:07 (one year ago) link