Debian is truly the best GNU/Linux

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slackware's package system sucks. oh well


otherwise i love it

Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 17:22 (twenty years ago) link

I'm getting thee old shop computer soon, and I'm planning to upgrade it (new motherboard, process0r, hd, more memory) and using it as a linux b0x!! I was looking at getting SuSE professional to put into it b/c it comes with roesgarden and audacity on the disc. does anyone use this?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 June 2003 17:35 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck SuSe


DEBIAN!!!

Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

slackware's package system sucks. oh well

i've found pkgtool to be quite good ... why no love?

I'm getting thee old shop computer soon, and I'm planning to upgrade it (new motherboard, process0r, hd, more memory) and using it as a linux b0x!! I was looking at getting SuSE professional to put into it b/c it comes with roesgarden and audacity on the disc. does anyone use this?

i would NOT suggest using linux for audio production. in theory you can push the latency of your soundcard VERY low by patching your (2.4.x series) kernel with the appropriate patches thereby making the soundcard more responsive than either a windows or mac box, but it's not the easiest thing in the world to do. even basic audio production on linux can involve monkeying with things like ALSA drivers, JACK (the function of which is in all honesty beyond my comprehension) toolkits (audacity uses something called wxWindows in the background, and in my experience any of these cross-platform toolkits can be a real fucking pain, rosegarden uses some of the KDE libraries which further complicates the installation and maintenance of your system).

to be fair it's likely suse will handle all these package dependencies and what-not FOR you (and IIRC suse uses the ALSA drivers by default) so you stand a good chance of getting it running in some capacity, but if it ever stops working you might just be hooped.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Friday, 13 June 2003 18:31 (twenty years ago) link

Yea, Linux sucks for pro audio mostly

Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, well, I'm not a pro. I can't afford cubase on its own, let alone sound forge, 1000000000000 vst synth/fx plugins, and just about everybody i know wh uses w4r3z gets nowt done b/c they keep fucking stuff up. these guys i used to work with had all thee cr4x0r3d radium vers of every windows audio app, and THEY KEPT FUKCING UP ALL THE TIME. i eventually stopped working w/them, because i got sick ov losing work all the time. the way i see it, if it doesn't work out, i've still got a powerful blank pc, i can install microsoft linux pro for windows 8.2 w!n xp, and save up for cubase, (shrugs) what's to lose? I still have my atari and my hard disc recorder anyway.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:24 (twenty years ago) link

why not! could be a great learning experience!

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, the low-latency patch with the latest and greatest kernel is quite easy. The patch is included in 2.4.20 (should be up to date on most dists), and all you have to do is a make xconfig and look for it under processor type and features to turn it on. Salmon's OTM. Installing ALSA from scratch is a pain in the ass, but I believe demudi (The debian music distribution) does ALSA by default. I've never worked with demudi myself, but it's probably your best bet if you want to do music stuff. It includes all the audio software that I have no clue how to use.

Dale the Merciless (cprek), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

ergo jon's debian=tops assertion is actually true. ak!

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

Just checked, and apparently there's a rehmudi distro that's aiming for the same thing but based off of redhat if that floats your boat. Both are part of the AGNULA (A GNU/Linux Audio) project.

Dale the Merciless (cprek), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

I do keep checking the agnula page, but they don't update it very often. the reason i ws looking at suse professional 8.2 is that is has the audio apps built-in, and does alsa as well.

http://www.suse.co.uk/uk/private/products/suse_linux/i386/multimedia.html

there seems to be a bunch ov fancy soft-synths included too, but i already have synthesisers, and effects. All I really want is to be able to record midi and audio in the same app. Rosegarden looks like it will do this really well.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

>Right! I now have a BEAST that is running Debian.
>Paul says it is also a GNOME.
>I do not understand

debian is the distribution, gnome is the window manager.

i started with mandrake 7.0 because that was what was on the front of the first magazine i bought. worked fine, so i've stayed with it.

that said, the new suse has mainactor bundled with it (video editing, which i do quite a lot of) so i'm tempted by that. that said, it'd probably be easier and cheaper to just buy mainactor.

> I'm getting thee old shop computer soon, and I'm planning to
> upgrade it (new motherboard, process0r, hd, more memory)

so, basically, you're just keeping the box? 8)

andy

koogs (koogs), Friday, 13 June 2003 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
next linux desktop:
http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

most impressive, but i do hope you can turn all that shit off 8)

(the one problem i can see is the spotty nature of opengl support on linux. nvidia only do binary drivers, ati drivers don't support newest cards...) (couldn't get the nvidia drivers working on my mandrake box due to some missing kernel header files. now boot into gentoo distro if i'm writing opengl stuff)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

what are our favo(u)rite distributions for late summer and early winter 07?

Filey Camp, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Still Debian.

caek, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

running Debian/Kubuntu

kingfish, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

The one I mostly use is Knoppix but I don't use Linux much/at all :/

Will M., Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

anyone tried the new ubuntu (11.04) ?

just installed it and the windows manager is, well, different

also mildly revolted by the use of the word "Apps" everywhere

tpp, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

unity is ugly as shit and unusable imo

would be better on a touchscreen tho

diamonddave85, Monday, 2 May 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

there's some Unity talk, none of it positive, on the I'd Like to use linux buttttt.... thread

I'd like to use Linux but...

koogs, Monday, 2 May 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link


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