It's a sad and beautiful world: the Jim Jarmusch poll.

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I've seen all but the first (though it's now in my dvd library) and the last two, and like Mystery Train the least

gabbneb, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know the answer yet

gabbneb, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

just put mystery train and dead man on my queue

Jordan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

and yet the world continues to turn...

n/a, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm going to act like that wasn't an xpost

n/a, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

no, the world pretty much waits for me, actually

gabbneb, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

stranger than paradise

nothing beats the five minute shot of dude drinking his beer

lucas pine, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ "all but the first two and the last two"

+ mystery train ftw

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ "all but the first two and the last two"

learn to read better

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

coffee and cigarettes is terrible. i like ghost dog and dead man. i havent seen anything else

deej, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

In order, but the first four are pretty close:
Dead Man (1995)
Ghost Dog (1999)
Mystery Train (1989)
Stranger Than Paradise (1984)
Broken Flowers (2005)
Down by Law (1986)
Night on Earth (1991) (this mostly weak, but the paris, new york and helsinki bits all have moments--the la bit is the worst thing he's ever done)
Coffee and Cigarettes (2003) (also mostly garbage, but I seem to remember a few good bits.)

Haven't seen, don't care about:
Permanent Vacation (1980)
Year of the Horse (1997)

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I lean toward Ghost Dog over Dead Man because I think it's more stylish and because the-inner-city-is-dying is more relevant than indians-died-a-long-time-ago, and because I think he gets the tri-state area a little better than the West. Greater reach than STP, sure, but not sure they're really better. Night on Earth was my first and yes the LA part sucks and I hate Roberto Benigni but while I haven't seen it in ages I think fake Spike Lee and fake Kaurismaki and faux whoever might still feel more soulful than any of his others.

I think I'm going to make a policy of not seeing Bill Murray movies from now on. No offense, you know.

I never intended to see Year of the Horse, but it's not a bad movie, even if you don't care about Neil.

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

i like it!

chaki, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link

more relevant than indians-died-a-long-time-ago

ok, sure it has lots of more current more-than-overtones, but they just aren't all that interesting

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link

wait, I've never really watched Down By Law straight ("straight") through, have I?

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

lol, college

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Down By Law has not aged well.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:14 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe it's just a lot easier to feel sad for Forest Whittaker than it is for Johnny Depp

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Well I don't think you are really supposed to feel sad for Johnny Depp.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link

The indie/artsy/outsider voice wanted to vote for Down By Law or Stranger Than Paradise. But the viewer in me won out and voted Mystery Train. Mainly because of it's repeatability. Screamin Jay Hawkins & Cinque Lee? Absolutely classic. &fwiw, Permanent Vacation was bad. Bad, bad.

Bobbi Peru, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Well I don't think you are really supposed to feel sad for Johnny Depp.

no I suppose not, but for what he represents I meant

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:54 (sixteen years ago) link

that Gary Farmer is so good-natured and has such funny sayings and no wonky eye

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link

learn to read better

*takes a reading course*

what you said is still retarded

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i guess calling me names is a way to get me to pay attention to you. which, you know, i would never do otherwise.

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link

*takes a caring course*

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm gonna see the golden compass tonight

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i know nothing about it!

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:26 (sixteen years ago) link

something about bears, nicole kidman looking bitchy, and daniel craig ftw in the end probably

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link

nicole kidman in looking bitchy shock

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link

she cant even help it anymore

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link

ALL OTM

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Mystery Train - for Screamin' Jay, the Carl Perkins dialogue, Natchez = Matches, that fucking awesome pan shot of the Italian women in the airport with the airplane taking off behind her, and of course, "lost in space".

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9940/18830783gl1.jpg

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 13 December 2007 03:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Steve Buscemi is the only actor in that truck cab who's still alive.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 13 December 2007 03:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Or, as gabbnebb might say: they are all alive except the one on the right and the one on the left.

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 December 2007 07:27 (sixteen years ago) link

alex's ranking is otm on all counts.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 13 December 2007 07:40 (sixteen years ago) link

although ok maybe i'd bump stranger than paradise up to 2nd place. i love that movie unconditionally.

love him for his movies, and also for carving out the career he's had. i'm not really sure how he's done it, since i don't think he's ever made much money for himself or anyone else. although maybe not caring a whole lot about that is a necessary ingredient. (also probably doesn't hurt to be the coolest guy in the room, which he probably often is.)

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 13 December 2007 07:49 (sixteen years ago) link

1) dead man
2) stranger than fiction
2) down by law
2) mystery train
5) the rest
6) except for the ones i haven't seen (permanent vacation, year of the horse)

remy bean, Thursday, 13 December 2007 07:56 (sixteen years ago) link

dead man is like one of my top movies of ... uh ... ever?

remy bean, Thursday, 13 December 2007 07:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Dead Man is amazing from beginning to end, and back round again.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 13 December 2007 08:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I do have a weak spot for Ghost Dog, I admit

warmsherry, Thursday, 13 December 2007 08:17 (sixteen years ago) link

i haven't seen year of the horse, but the neil young score (if you can call it that) to dead man is one of my favorite soundtracks.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 13 December 2007 08:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm with remy, noodle and tipsy. one of my all-time favourites.

Rubyredd, Thursday, 13 December 2007 09:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Strangerthan Paradise by a ocuntry mile.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 13 December 2007 09:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

xxxpost: I love Dead Man except for the soundtrack (and I am a Neil Young fan). It's really lazy and boring. I mean, compare it to Ry Cooder's Paris, Texas.

spectra, Monday, 17 December 2007 03:10 (sixteen years ago) link

really? that's interesting, because i was never a neil young fan till i saw dead man. but ry cooder's st for paris, texas is fucking awesome.

Rubyredd, Monday, 17 December 2007 03:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Everything about Dead Man sets it apart. The entertaining ugly violence, the score, his best-looking black & white film and his best cast: Depp, Robert Mitchum, Gabriel Byrne, John Hurt, Iggy Pop, Crispin Glover, Alfred Molina, Billy Bob Thornton, and Bishop.

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 17 December 2007 05:12 (sixteen years ago) link

dead man is like one of my top movies of ... uh ... ever?

-- remy bean, Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:56 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Link

strgn, Monday, 17 December 2007 08:06 (sixteen years ago) link

that soundtrack

strgn, Monday, 17 December 2007 08:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

That's how i felt

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 September 2019 02:11 (four years ago) link

sturgill simpson. good song.

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 2 September 2019 04:40 (four years ago) link

just saw Dead Man for the first time, I liked it but it not nearly as much as Stranger Than Paradise or Down By Law

saw it in a smaller room of a multiplex with surprisingly great sound, loved it & told my friends on the way out I would probably never see it again bcz it would be so underwhelming not being surrounded & shaken by the guitar

have no interest in Young as a musician otherwise either

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 2 September 2019 04:48 (four years ago) link

(I’ve mostly seen Jarmusch on VHS or broadcast TV otherwise. Night On Earth, Ghost Dog, and either the Joie & Cinque Lee or the Tom & Iggy Coffee & Cigarettes were big screen too afair, maybe one or two others.)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 2 September 2019 04:55 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

re: the Dead Man soundtrack, I hope to see it on a theater screen at some point

finally saw The Dead Don’t Die. I don’t really know zombie movies so it’s hard for me to evaluate it outside of the context of Jarmusch films

Dan S, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link

would have thought having recently watched the others again I would like this less, but I really enjoyed it

Dan S, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link

It was dull

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link

First half good

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link

I think maybe being immersed in Jarmusch films but not zombie films made me like it more

Dan S, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

Could be. I am very zombie filmed out

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:59 (four years ago) link

good song

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

it's the theme song.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

I lasted about 20 minutes with The Dead Don't Die

The World According To.... (Michael B), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

you didn't miss anything

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

You missed a lot of references to Sturgill Simpson

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

made Paterson look like a masterpiece in comparison

that's a movie that's stuck with me despite not thinking much of it at the time - I bet it'll be the consensus late career pick for him when all is said and done.

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 November 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

Paterson was a better film, but I thought this was funny and I liked the way it looked. Was reminded that Amy Taubin spoke about the ‘radioactive’ quality of Frederick Elmes’ cinematography in the night-time scenes. The soundtrack by Jarmusch and Carter Logan was good too.

Dan S, Thursday, 14 November 2019 01:13 (four years ago) link

Elmes' cinematography in Paterson was also great

Dan S, Thursday, 14 November 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

There were a couple Paterson jokes in TDDD! Even if the execution fell flat, it's pretty clear Jarmusch felt like doing a film of lazy riffing after doing a "serious" movie

mh, Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

So wait theres not actually a ghost dog here or what

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

Am I the only person who was disappointed that Ghost Dog used a gun and not a samurai sword?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

Several aging mafiosos also id say

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:51 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

Just watched Only Lovers...I enjoyed it well enough. It may grow on me in the next few days as I think about it. There's a cue in the score after Marlowe's death that I'd swear is a variation on the Stooges' "No Fun."

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Monday, 4 October 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link

on Criterion?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 October 2021 01:49 (two years ago) link

Yeah, there's a new Jarmusch bundle with new arrivals OLLA and Coffee & Cigarettes, and Ghost Dog and Dead Man back for short engagements, plus the permanent library stuff.

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Monday, 4 October 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

In the last week i rewatched Mystery Train and Dead Man, partly out of curiosity because I hadn’t seen either in forever but loved them when they came out. I have to say Mystery Train didn’t really hold my attention. Maybe it’s a victim of its own influence, but the hipster riffs and in particular all the Elvis references felt a little rote. I did love the depiction of Memphis itself, and I didn’t dislike the film but it felt kind of pat.

Dead Man still rules, though. Just gorgeous, for one thing, and I think it’s grounded enough to carry all of its pretentions. The relationship between Blake and Nobody remains one of my favorite “buddy film” pairings.

I had the same reactions to both flicks, tipsy.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 October 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link


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