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SW will never spend any real money or time on "that new (some say only) Lady Sovereign album" or, indeed, "whatever."

That senile dribbling cunt with his own column in the Guardian weekend magazine.

Cue stock that's no way to talk about Zoe Williams gag.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Alison Graham doesn't have a Wikipedia entry. And Dom Passantino does.

Michael Philip Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Where are the standards of today, I ask you.

I don't have a Wikipedia entry either.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Thursday, 20:00
Radio Ha Ha

Radio 4 turns over the airwaves to solid gold laughter, as Steve Punt joins up with a host of stars, backstage movers and industry shakers from the comedy industry with a two-hour special.

Variety shows and radio were the traditional routes to comedy fame and fortune, but what about today? Super agents, DVD sales, straight-to-TV stars; where does radio fit in? Steve and a panel of guests pick apart the laughter seam of the modern comedy industry, as well as generating a few jokes along the way.

Includes News Summary at 9.00pm.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link

In any given episode of "Extras", it could be 15% "brilliant", 25% "passable" and 60% "rubbish/obvious"...

like swimming in a cool sea and passing through a warm current, etc...

Where are the standards of today, I ask you.
I don't have a Wikipedia entry either.

-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...)

Oh, have I got one?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

you are diligently referenced on both j harris' and a petridis' though marcello.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

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mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

before that little derail folks was talkin' about the public / critical reaction to extras s2. the critical raves so often feel like wishful thinking. wanting, needing to have that generation defining masterpiece happening on your watch. i have yet to meet anyone who regards extras as anything other than ok or entertaining.

also on the bad can someone please put Have I Got News For You out of its misery.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

At the risk of inviting hate mail, I'd argue that Gervais and Merchant's second sitcom is, objectively, a patchy programme.

At the risk of, on this reviewer's logic, inviting lynch-mobs to my door, I'd argue that Extras was shite.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Radio Ha Ha is great. I was fooled by it the first time.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

sometimes writers employ rhetorical devices.

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the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

wait, i'm thinking of that other thing on radio 4. carry on. xpost

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost: Yes, but I still think the sentence panders unnecessarily towards Extras when it can really go for the kill instead.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

'This week: Worzel says all reggae is vile.' thread actually linked to from John Harris wikipedia!

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

A handful of contributors to the I Love Music boards have strongly attacked what they as a thread of covert racism in some of his work

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

david quantick wrote a book about chris rock?

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS COMING OUT OF MY QUIZZICALLY PURSED LIPS?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link

to get off the hate and link to Quantick... TV Burp is back on Saturday! woo! Harry on this year's CBB should be a joy.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

for reference or summat from the green wing thread:

To put things into context: Harry Hill aside, all British TV Comedy right now is total shit.

-- Ruairi Wirewool (horseproduction...), January 15th, 2007. (Ruairi Wirewool) (later)


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what were the chances of that happening?
-- mark grout (mark.grou...), January 15th, 2007. (mark grout) (later)


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If you can put CT and Green Wing on a par, you truly show a lack of discernment IMO.
Frankly, now that GW has been and gone, I'm inclined to agree with Ruairi, minus the bit about Harry Hill.

-- You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (papiermachealamphibia...), January 15th, 2007. (Haberdager) (later)


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If you can put CT and Green Wing on a par, you truly show a lack of discernment IMO.
no it's just a 'higher' (or rather 'stricter') level of discernment.

-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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'the thick of it' will be back, later in the year, and so will 'peep show'.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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but in a another more accurate sense...
-- mark s (mar...), January 15th, 2007. (mark s) (later)


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but then i do like Harry Hill so it's apples and roundabouts.
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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rubbish
-- RJG (RJ...), January 15th, 2007. (RJG) (later)


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so you keep saying
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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RJG's TV Burp
-- Dom Passantino (juror...), January 15th, 2007. (Dom Passantino) (later)


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Hmm. I was only talking about currently-running comedy shows. If Peep Show returns for a fourth bite at the cherry (and TTOI for a second), I will only be too delighted. Of course, the one I'm really looking out for is Nathan Barley II.
-- You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (papiermachealamphibia...), January 15th, 2007. (Haberdager) (later)


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i think it would be a big ask for there to be a 'great' uk comedy series to be running all 52 weeks of the year. i have low standards perhaps; but i don't ask for a 'great' film each month either.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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of course i too want 'nathan barley' back.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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They could drop scissors on a dog's head this time.
-- Dom Passantino (juror...), January 15th, 2007. (Dom Passantino) (later)


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uh, rose-tinted view there i reckon - but at least it was generating interesting discussion.
one episode of Screen Wipe a month would be good. ditto TV Burp.

-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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ha ha Dom OTM
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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as with 'green wing', take away the hype and the expectation it'll live up to 'the day today' and 'nathan barley' was 23 minutes well-spent. i lolled anyway.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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i didn't laugh more than i did laugh etc.
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

We're, what, 18 months away from NB now? Can we work out why it was so bad and so hated yet?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

we already did!

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

like, 5 minutes after the end credits!

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm talking about THE BENEFIT OF DISTANCE AND HINDSIGHT

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Charlie Brooker's Monday G2 column is weird because you can see the video game journalist in him threatening to break through at any moment. qf the Geoff Capes gag in today's etc.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Louis you seem to be assuming that the guy from the Indie actually thinks Extras is shite, which isn't what he's saying. Something can be patchy and still have plenty of redeeming features overall

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link

It wasn't bad. It was funny, well-drawn and turn-itself-inside-out clever, not to mention superbly casted and acted. It needs re-watching cos it skips from one idea to the next so quick, but yeh, it's awesome.

And Screen Wipe rocks.

Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Brooker should start doing his columns in cartoon strip form, like those ads for some gaming shop or other that were always in Gamesmaster magazine

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

ok 'nathan barley' in the oh-7: that corner of east london had probably lost its edge well before 2005, but now it feels even less edgy. the kind of magazine the show is lampooning is long gone. i have even forgotten the name of that sleazenation guy the guardian hired. but there were some very good throwaway gags.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

the IT crowd was about 300 times better than nathan barley if we're talking post being any good chris morris.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i know a person who knows the redhead, from that.

it was good, but not 300 times better than 'nathan barley'.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

30 times?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

IT Crowd would've been a lot better without the Irish guy.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

no. i actually disagree that it's better, but even if i dodn't i wouldn't say more than 1.5 times.

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steve otm

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

it had jokes and didn't feel like an attempt to make a big insightful statement about something. nathan barley missed so many targets, pulled so many punches and generally got the tone wrong (we should HATE NB) that for me at least its glaring faults overrid any of it's mildly amusing qualities.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

well this was the thing, we weren't entirely supposed to hate nathan barley.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Are you sure that's not just because they fucked up the characterisation?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

oh he was hateable enough but his foil dan ashcroft, ie the viewers, was not much better. and i guess you can hate someone and be jealous of them.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

if you don't hate him what's the point? the original tv go home columns had him (or maybe it was his frineds) getting blowjobs from underage hookers and stuff. in the tv show he's just bloke in a silly hat who says daft things. how are we supposed to give a shit about might boosh man if all he's supposedly kicking against are people who are a bit silly? they could have created a proper comedy monster but it was just nothing.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

the original tv go home columns had him (or maybe it was his frineds) getting blowjobs from underage hookers and stuff.

this happened in the show except he thought she turned out not be under-age (at which point NB thinking it now okay to pretend she WAS under-age was actually quite a clever little point about...something or other).

i did hate NB but yes no less than anyone else around him.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

no more, rather

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought that was kinda the idea, that NB was a harmless berk, mooching around London and getting into scrapes like a coked up Shaggy, and DA (because of his own self-loathing) decides to not sort himself out, but instead write columns about how idiotic the rest of the world is.

Actually, scratch that, that's not the idea at all. It's funny caricatures falling into situations and scrambling to return to the status quo whilst simultaneously being trapped; a very old-fashioned sitcom thread. I certainly didn't feel that is was trying to make a big insightful statement about something, at least, nothing larger than "it's better to like something than to dislike something."

Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

the barley getting a bj ep was better than any 'it crowd'.

'THIR-FUCKING-TEEN'.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Acrobat OTM.
In TV Go Home, 'Cunt' was unbridled misanthropy. 'Nathan Barley' gave us a guy who was a bit of a tool. You could forgive Barley being sympathetic if it was an entirely naturalistic piece, but the tone was so inconsistent.

In fairness, I guess originally Barley wasn't really a character, just a cipher, and in making him human Morriss and Brooker made him more, er, human. I just don't think that made for great comedy. It wasn't sharp enough to be genuine satire and it wasn't silly enough to be knockabout comedy. It was just 'dark'.

Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

on a thread that started with a load of gervais bashing... Barley should have been presented more like david brent. deluded, egotistical, actually unpleasant but whom we might in the end feel some sympathy for. all the "idiots" seemed nice, there was so sense of infighting or bitchiness which seemed wrong to me. also they could have had some more funny lines.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

So was the "nicening" of NB down to Brooker, Morris, or Channel 4 themselves?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

what do YOU think?

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

'Cunt' was very funny in TVGH, on the whole, but a half-hour show on actual telly where he actually did those things would have probably been a bit shit to say the least

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I've just rememberd Baddiel's Syndrome again.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

lost classic?

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

certainly one of those two

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i am enjoying Starstruck after the first two episodes. nice casting, fun acting, decent script, clearly a fantasy but a fairly compassionate and enjoyable one with about two genuine laughs per half hour. Matafeo is a new face for me and is welcome.

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:46 (two weeks ago) link

her series of Taskmaster was good

koogs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:29 (two weeks ago) link

My boss just recommended Starstruck to me. Really like Rose Matafeo so will definitely give it a go.

ailsa, Thursday, 29 April 2021 18:35 (two weeks ago) link

re starstruck : i watched 3 eps today and really enjoyed it.
doesn't do anything out of the box, just some very welcome, feel good vibes with lots of chuckles.
looking forward to seeing the rest this weekend.
and yeah, she was very good on taskmaster.

mark e, Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:04 (two weeks ago) link

I can only watch one episode at a time because Ireland, but I really enjoyed the first episode. Exactly what forks and mark e said. Nothing groundbreaking, but a very good feeling from the whole thing.

Did you see the film she did with Neville from the Harry Potter films? It's good too.

trishyb, Thursday, 29 April 2021 20:13 (two weeks ago) link

Did you see the film she did with Neville from the Harry Potter films? It's good too.

not yet. been waiting for it to hit a streaming service which it has to given circumstances.
saw a clip on the last leg (i think !?), and it looked really good.

mark e, Thursday, 29 April 2021 20:28 (two weeks ago) link

Her comedy special, Horndog, is really good - we were keen to see her after, er, seeing her and David O'Doherty on Celebrity Pointless.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 29 April 2021 21:58 (two weeks ago) link

We saw her live at Kilkenny a few years ago. Annoyingly, she was on a bill with three very well-known Irish comics, so everyone was there to see them, and she got very nervous because it wasn't going all that well (it wasn't horrible or anything, just, you know) and she talked really really fast and got a bit squeaky, but we liked her very much all the same.

trishyb, Thursday, 29 April 2021 22:04 (two weeks ago) link

The new This Time was a mixed bag, as always.

chap, Saturday, 1 May 2021 00:03 (one week ago) link

agreed, but I liked it. I got more out of s1 on a rewatch. the three different phone icons was spot on, can't remember what else cracked me up

kinder, Saturday, 1 May 2021 09:13 (one week ago) link

The body language section was good.

chap, Saturday, 1 May 2021 09:36 (one week ago) link

Motherland starts again on monday

followed by new Inside Number 9

koogs, Saturday, 8 May 2021 16:42 (five days ago) link

For some reason, I watched all of the new Motherland yesterday even though I feel very conflicted about it. It makes me anxious rather than making me laugh and the way people behave is stupidly implausible, at times. I want to like it more than I do but I find it mean spirited a lot of the time. I think it's mostly carried by some very winning performances & the laughs are good when they do come.

The series has a surprisingly upbeat and uncynical ending which hopefully signals a new direction for the show and seems to be a hint that that will be foregrounding one character who's only been a residual presence until now and is played by an actor I'm really quite keen on.

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:31 (two days ago) link

I'm going to settle for the weekly pace because of the Inside#9 double bill but I thought there were a fair few flags the focus might change.

"I was the head of product development for Glaxo SmithKline."

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:36 (two days ago) link

“Are you sure you didn’t work in Greggs?”

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:40 (two days ago) link

lol at hidden text with no actual spoilers or names in it

there's like 1 semi-likeable character in the entire show, i'm not even sure i enjoy it.

(unlike, say, starstruck which is funny and smart and charming - "i didn't want to come empty handed and these are the only things i've seen you eat")

koogs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:45 (two days ago) link

y'all sold me on motherland so i knocked the first season and a few extra episodes out in two nights. Will likely catch up to season 3 by tonight. "not even sure i enjoy it" feels accurate, it's very Sharon Horgan-y and the actors mostly keep me engaged but it's kinda light most of the time and then violently mean on occasion.

Starstruck lost me at episode four when it ran out of ideas and just started recycling the same shakespearean confusions and mistakes to keep them from getting together. fair play on the nod to The Graduate at the end.

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:23 (two days ago) link

(gah spoilers! only 3 episodes have been on telly so far)

koogs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:08 (two days ago) link

I don't know if it's very Sharon-Horgany as much as very all over the place. Like whoever wrote everything revolving around the kevin pig-pit slapstick in s2 hadn't spoken to anyone else who'd written the other parts of the episode.

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:52 (two days ago) link

xp sorry, didn't know! in any case, i'm not spoiling anything with that comment that you couldn't figure out by just watching the show, i promise. Would be curious if other folks who didn't binge starstruck have different opinions.

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 21:30 (two days ago) link

the Horgan-ishness: black and gross-out humor, feints toward humanity promptly chopped down as the payoff of the scene, devastating personal loss played off as nature of the game, all male characters have the intelligence and maturity of a damaged teen

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 21:32 (two days ago) link

That's food for thought, tbh.

Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 21:36 (two days ago) link

in any case, i'm not spoiling anything with that comment that you couldn't figure out by just watching the show, i promise.

you did specifically describe the final scene of the series, and contrasted them with your own expectations from just watching the show, tbh

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 21:39 (two days ago) link

i feel bad! honestly, I assumed you guys got them all at the same time and had already had a fair amount of time to see the show but i guess the international t0rr3nt scene works on a different delivery timeline.
anyways, it NODS to the graduate, that's not where it lands. I am also a bit annoyed that it got far enough up its own ass to stop coming up with new ideas after the first ninety minutes.

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 01:26 (yesterday) link

i was just remarking that i likely wouldn't watch half the middlebrow british/australian sitcoms i watch if they were american but the UK/AU stuff's actors are generally 5X better, the subject matter is more daring and they say "fuck" regularly. apparently that does it for me enough so that I can unapologetically binge through Plebs.

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 01:29 (yesterday) link

It’s common-ish for UK (and a bit in Australia) to drop a whole series on free streaming the night the first ep TXs - koogs is just watching week by week on actual TV

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 02:41 (yesterday) link

liked this pilot about an all female muslim band a lot

― oscar bravo, Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:51 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

so this has got a series going out on ch4 next week.

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 15:47 (yesterday) link


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