Taking Sides: Titanic Vs Dirty Dancing Vs Pretty Woman Vs Ghost

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I'd do Ghost. The Godzila idea has sold me. I never made it through PRetty Woman.

C_Taylor, Thursday, 25 November 2004 11:05 (nineteen years ago) link

The film has a tacked on happy ending (as I'm sure you know C) which is the worst ever as it's totally against the flow of the movie.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 November 2004 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Wot one? They all have bad tacked on happy endings.

C_Taylor, Thursday, 25 November 2004 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but the others are 'heading that way' i.e. the ending was the one originally envisaged.

In Pretty Woman, the underlying moral was 'your past may well affect your future' i.e. when Gere's colleague finds out about Julia's ho past, and tries to buy a shag. The ending was a sad but inevitable one. Until they changed it to Richard buys a boat and moors it outside her flat, they embrace and head off into the sunset' crap.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 November 2004 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Pretty Woman with Godzilla in the Richard Gere role would be unutterably fantastic.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 25 November 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

gODZILLA iN tHE rICHARD gERE rOLE, gAMERA iN tHE jULIA rOBERTZ rOLE!@# bETTER sTILL!@#

"She walked off the street, into his life and stole his heart. aND dEMILOSHED hIS cONDO."

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 25 November 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Redeemable features: Pretty Woman - Jason Alexander. Ghost - Vincent Schiavelli. So that leaves Dirty Dancing and Titanic...hmmm...Titanic is much, much worse than Dirty Dancing.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 25 November 2004 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link

pretty woman was a cute film

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Dirty Dancing has one of the great soundtracks. 'She's Like The Wind' is a genuinely wonderful and moving song. Plus, Dirty dancing is probably a better movie. Plus, Jennifer Gray is sexier than Roberts, Moore and Winslet.

Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 25 November 2004 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus, Jennifer Gray is sexier than Roberts, Moore and Winslet.

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Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

That's the smallest joke in the world, Dom. (and I don't even get it...)

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Dirty Dancing, because I have sentimental associations with sleepovers from when I ws 12. Plus the soundtrack is great and then there's lines like "nobody puts baby in a corner!" and "I carried a watermelon?"

Basically I agree with everything Jody said.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link

i love the scene in pretty woman where george from seinfeld walks up to julia roberts at a posh party and says "so, i bet this must make a refreshing change from...hollywood boulevard, huh?"

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

i actually enjoyed all four of these films to varying degrees - but i'm nobody's film expert.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Pretty Woman is the film I put on if I'm feeling too depressed to leave the house. No, not because I want to wallow in misery like depressed people tend to do, but because it makes me feel a bit warmer and happier. I know it's not a good film, but sometimes all you want is to eat junk food, so this is my junk. Dirty Dancing would be a good alternative if I owned it. If it's on telly, there'll have to be something pretty special on another channel to make me miss it. I might watch Ghost if I was really bored, but I'd never watch Titanic again.

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I picked four of the worst "big" films in history and some of chumps want to defend them? The only thing that would make Dirty Dancing better is if Linnea Quigley digitally replaced Jennifer Grey in a re-released "Special edition" and it all ended in a mad cannibal orgy.

C-Taylor, Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There are far worse 'big' films.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I have never seen any of these films.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

doesn't taking side involve defending?

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Dirty Dancing by far

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

"NOBODY PUTS BABY IN A CORNER!"

DUH (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

worst line evah!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

When did "worst" become a synonym for "best"???

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll watch Pretty Woman or Dirty Dancing for the same reason I'll read something trashy on a beach. It's my Whopper with onion rings.

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Dirty dancing is the second worst film ever made

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

("Dirty Dancing" should have been about a series of elaborate schemes to make Jennifer Grey stand in the corner of various rooms with Jerry Orbach popping up as each attempt is foiled to shout that line and dance a jig.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

not enough animals were massacred cruelly in any of those films for me to like them

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

"Oh my God, there's a rabid squirrel in the corner of the ballroom! Quick Baby, go in there and stomp on it!"

"NOBODY PUTS BABY IN A CORNER!" *jig jig jig*

"DRAT."

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link

see that'd have been a CLASSIC

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm imagining here that the perpetrator of this question is a man, and his two threads regarding these pictures take umbrage with what are generally refferred to as "chick-flicks". His seething frustration at his incapability to understand their appeal clearly indicates a massive and overwhelming fear of castration.

S. Freud, Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Personally, I quote enjoyed Pretty Woman's oedipal undertones, but then I have been debunked in many other areas, and also I am dead.

S. Freud, Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

you think he might have a problem with sexually assertive women and pretty men, too?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
Titanic sticks out in this company in that it isn't gratingly shitty.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

it's magnificently shitty.

g e o f f (gcannon), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

honestly the first image that comes to mind when i think uv titanic is billy zane flipping his bertie wooster haircut around. and the first sound is a lot of high-decibel stereo shrieking. it should have just been that for two and half hours.

g e o f f (gcannon), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Ugh. Four flavors of shit.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 9 July 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Shitty in a number of ways that barely matter to me. Magnificent in a lot of ways that do.

Until Million Dollar Baby, Titanic was the only Best Picture Oscar-winner I thought even remotely worth the accolades since that other Eastwood picture... and pretty much nothing else until before I was born.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 9 July 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Off work with a fever today, and watched Pretty Woman for the first time. What a strange one. It's really well made, but at the same time just unbelievably bland - even JR's performance is merely okay. (She looks great though.)

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 14 July 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

"Dirty Dancing" has, without any irony, a great soundtrack.
mostly otm, but c'mon dude... "she's like the wind"???

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, November 25, 2004 5:37 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

she's like the wind is so so so fucking terrible

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

Pretty Woman was initially conceived to be a dark drama about prostitution in Los Angeles in the 1980s.[4] The relationship between Vivian and Edward also originally harboured controversial themes, including the concept of having Vivian addicted to drugs; part of the deal was that she had to stay off cocaine for a week, because she needed the money to go to Disneyland. Edward eventually throws her out of his car and drives off.

An Ice-Cold Glass of Frothy, Delicious Milk (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

I watched the shit out of Dirty Dancing when I was a pre-teen. Re-watching it recently it ocurred to me how adult it was. Pretty sure that must have been where I learned about abortion.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

"I carried a watermelon?" still pops into my head on the reg and, come on people, ORBACH.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

lol i watched a bunch of pretty woman last week, it sucked so bad.

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 July 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link

The best scene in pretty woman is the whole you work on commission big mistake big huge scene.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

Also, George Costanza.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

not to mention Roxette

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link

Beaches should have been included in this thread not Titanic (which blows but still).

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link

Beaches, Dirty Dancing, Pretty Woman, Ghost

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 14 July 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

the contemporary (well not anymore)(btw more time has passed between dirty dancing and today than had passed between when dirty dancing was set and when it came out) soundtrack in dirty dancing doesn't bother me, it's generally incidental music and no more a part of the 'reality' than the score or whatever would be, but it has always thrown me that at the climax they're suddenly listening to this song that clearly couldn't have come out in 1963 and nobody's weirded out about it.

balls, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 00:15 (nine years ago) link

i was trying to find a jpeg or gif of richard gere making his 'i'm loving this blowjob' face in pretty woman, that was a pretty good era for blowjob faces in cinema.

balls, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 03:52 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

no lie I can't resist this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9BbUqHrWFI

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 August 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

watchin pretty woman its p good

under a mand'rin tsar (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 June 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

cocktail

brimstead, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

I'm watching Dirty Dancing and I forgot that Baby dumps a pitcher of water on that dickhead preppy waiter who is a creep to her older sister because he tries to give her his copy of The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 June 2020 03:13 (three years ago) link

It deos noteve nbring teh funney!!!1!!1!

ladies and germs, I give you I Love Everything, circa 2004.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 28 June 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link

The halcyon is past, the decline palpable.

pomenitul, Sunday, 28 June 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link

My palps discern no such cline.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 28 June 2020 03:48 (three years ago) link

I like Dirty Dancing.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 June 2020 10:22 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://64.media.tumblr.com/c4425f689a939bcc8334e663d0a7b4df/42f01836b691d09e-a9/s500x750/abfff84effec2de9eeb5c933dcf3ccc50e4625d0.gifv

Crazy thing about this image is that it appears to go faster the more you stare at it.

pplains, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 00:27 (three years ago) link

Pretty Woman sucks, Ghost is lame, and I dgaf abt Titanic

Dirty Dancing shines like a diamond among all these turds

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

when i finally got around to seeing titanic a few years ago i thought it was actually pretty good tbh. haven't seen dirty dancing but i can't imagine ever wanting to rewatch the other two.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

Pretty Woman sucks, Ghost is lame, and I dgaf abt Titanic

Dirty Dancing shines like a diamond among all these turds

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, August 3, 2020 9:31 PM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otfm how is this even a question

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

Otm. Dirty Dancing by a million miles.

treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:19 (three years ago) link

Titanic plays in the first half as a predictable period romance, then it flips over into epic with a slight suggestion of horror. It's OK enough as such BIG films go. I might think about watching it again in a decade or so. If I'm bored.

Ghost is schlocky nonsense that had a few laughs here and there to partly redeem it. Pretty Woman just sounds very bad, so I will never see it.

Dirty Dancing sounds like it might be fun schlock, but I've never seen it.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link

Pretty Woman is the only one of these I’ve seen more than once (my sister wore the VHS out during our teen years) and, I dunno, I guess its kind of a guilty pleasure. I credit Hector Elizondo and Ralph Bellamy’s supporting work for most of the affection I have towards it.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link

Are we comparing these films on their entertainment value or on their class politics?

On both axes, Dirty Dancing reigns supreme. James Cameron is only capable of feigning outrage at injustice; in all of his films, he fetishizes it. And as for Pretty Woman, well, it just scrubs sex work of its exploitative dimension.

In Dirty Dancing, it is the proletariat Patrick Swayze who wins in the end, exposing the shallow prejudices of the resort members, especially Baby’s father. And he doesn’t have to die for this either. In that movie, liberation is thinkable.

treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link

*proletarian

treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link

i'm pretty sure poster "c taylor" in 2004 was not asking us to compare these films on their class politics, and i'll respond in their spirit.

dirty dancing is an incredible movie born of the specificity of its setting and the joy of watching two young people who are in insanely good shape dance and have sex. it's unimpeachable.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link

But it’s also a true indictment of the prejudices of the upper class. Emotionally, it really does side with the workers. These other movies can’t say that.

treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

Emotionally and aesthetically. This seems to be the important lens for these three films, which all touch on class issues more directly than the vast majority of hollywood movies.

treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:40 (three years ago) link

completely agree, there is for sure a class element to dirty dancing that is much more coherent than something like pretty woman which does not seem to present a realistic take on sex work

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link

treesh my dude do you ever just like, have fun?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link

I also think it’s a fun movie with great music and that jennifer grey has great on-screen chemistry with patrick swayze

treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link

Forgot ghost was in this poll too. I’ve never actually seen that one.

treeship., Tuesday, 4 August 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

if you want a serious defense of titanic, dave kehr was a fan

https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/archives-titanic-fantastic-voyage-article-1.2017563

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link


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