Gayngs Chub Licker

Of all the things you could accuse Coldplay of, "lack of any apparent songcraft" isn't one. The vocals/arrangements criticism - yeah, OK.

Tell me that you feel differently up to and including Very though.

i think apart from a select few of their hits coldplay are actually pretty bad at writing songs qua songs - so much of their stuff is in one ear, out the other. arrangements least offensive thing about them really, could almost be bland-in-a-good-way if it wasn't for his disgusting voice

xp have never heard any PSB album all the way through except for the greatest hits! (and one of the shit recent ones.) the only post-"can you forgive her" PSB song i like is "miracles".

xp have never heard any PSB album all the way through except for the greatest hits! (and one of the shit recent ones.) the only post-"can you forgive her" PSB song i like is "miracles".

lex seriously I know about your contempo steez but between this and not even listening to the steely dan or can albums on your hard drive your willful blindness is verging on egregious atm, cut out just one night of searching for cassie leaks and attend to this.

All 5 early PSB albums are essential.

Tim F OTM to the moon and back.

haha i haven't listened to cassie for months.

i have WAY TOO MUCH MUSIC to listen to this week, dying beneath the pile of it all. still taking in new ones from nôze, k michelle, ginuwine, art department, wolf & lamb dj kicks, egyptrixx, kode9 & spaceape, killa kyleon, shackleton, fabrizio maurizi, phaedra, gang gang dance, the revenge, jenny hval, young gully, lupe fiasco, terre thaemlitz, WAKA. and for non-contempo stuff i appear to have downloaded the entire back catalogues of esperanza spalding, jean grae and everything but the girl. PSB/steely dan/can right back to the bottom of the pile.

oh yeah and the marsha ambrosius one too

FTR I never cared much for the original but Gayngs' Cry is very pretty and slow and floaty and quite emotional to my ears.

You're seriously gonna listen to Lupe Fiasco instead.

yeah that one's for work not pleasure :(

not that they sound that similar (and not wanting to put lex off them because they're wicked), but having a rough grounding in things like steely dan might well help towards gayngs enjoyment.

oh don't dog latin, now they've been mentioned in connection to both gayngs and destroyer, lex will never listen to them.

I do find it interesting though, all of this stuff (incl. coldplay) I mentally file under "white stuff goons check for".

yeah i'm genuinely thinking i might just delete steely dan unheard now

the so-called goons are mostly indie fuxxors at heart, is the thing

poor lex, let down by everyone.

2 real

don't delete it lex. they're really nothign like gayngs or destroyer. at least listen to, i dunno, deacon blues, dr wu, and peg.

and please update us on what you think because I'm convinced it could go one of two ways here.

lol i just checked my itunes and i first added this steely dan album to it in 2008

the can albums were added in 2007

by now i think it's almost a point of principle not to ever play them

you and your principles, jesus! ;-) if i'd stuck to the same principles i had when i first joined ilx i would never have checked out erykah badu or daft punk or ABBA or countless other things i thought i'd hate or didn't fit into my immediate worldview. no use in saying i now love all these unreservedly and each one has opened a lot more stuff to me.

I almost hate to ask but what was your worldview before you heard all those? I admit I'm all "Wait, how could anyone have not heard them?"

i'd heard them of course, but i wasn't necessarily a fan of their music or what they "represented" per se. they're just random examples plucked from the air.

when i joined ilx at 19/20 y/o (ten years ago now) I listened to Warp Records, extreme metal, alt rock/britpop shit, the Beastie Boys, a few canon selections, whatever.

I thought "proper dance" music was stupid and boring. I thought r'n'b was for girls. I actively hated most commercial pop on grounds of it being cheesy and corporate. My taste in hip-hop was extremely limited to say the least. Let's just say there was a mass of stuff I assumed wasn't any good and wasn't worth me checking out.

I can't imagine how i'd be or how i'd feel were i never to have expanded my worldview and tried things out that i normally wouldn't have. Sick of standing at the back of the student clubs with my arms folded, I soon made a point of trying to find the best in anything i heard. i figured if someone liked it, it must have some redeeming qualities, and that all along the problem wasn't the music or the people - it was me.

So very quickly after discovering ILM I realised that nearly everything in pop is relevant and relative to each other. Without Steely Dan you might not get Gayngs, but you arguably wouldn't get De La Soul who not only sampled SD, but also sampled Hall & Oates who are also an influence on Gayngs. And that's why I like music I guess.

sorry, reread my posts and realised I might be coming across a bit high'n'mighty... apologies. i'm not here to talk about my life nor to slag people's tastes and opinions off so i'll leave this thread alone for a bit.

Dude, that's one of the best posts I've ever read on here about the subject! Hell, maybe one of the best things I've ever read anywhere on it.

hey, thanks!

my Coldplay dig was in reference to how appallingly weak the beat on "Cry" is; I know they are capable of recording decent-sounding drums because I heard "Shiver" playing at brunch on Sunday and was all "who is this band who is aping Coldplay but doing it much better? oh word? lol" but I do stand by my assertion that their baseline response to a rhythm section is to make it as limp as possible

the Interpol/Editors bit was re: the most prominent-to-my-ears vocal line (and I actually enjoy the one Editors album I own, but I have no delusions about their singer)

hey dan this is another project by gayngs main dude may be more to yr liking

Marijuana Deathsquads (feat P.O.S., members of Cows, Gayngs)

when people start replacing the "oh you are from minneapolis? isnt that where prince and the replacements are from?" with "oh minneapolis? thats where gayngs, owl city and har mar superstar are from!" i am going to blame all yall.

that is never going to happen

though once i met a guy who told me that with the exception of paramore, "detroit isnt really a music city"

Lol waht

That is just... wau

hahahaha oh god

all i am saying though is when president superstar and senator owl city enact their final solution to enslave us all i will be reminding you of this thread in the reeducation fun zone line max

Har Mar's BIL is beyond dope, tho

http://www.dibaunlimited.com/Media.php

oh don't dog latin, now they've been mentioned in connection to both gayngs and destroyer, lex will never listen to them.

I do find it interesting though, all of this stuff (incl. coldplay) I mentally file under "white stuff goons check for".

― Tim F, Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:04 AM Bookmark

Wait, should I be checking for Destroyer? I always assumed they were sulky singer-songwritery stuff, not white goon music.

all i am saying though is when president superstar and senator owl city enact their final solution to enslave us all i will be reminding you of this thread in the reeducation fun zone line max

Still trying to figure out how liking Gayngs fits into this scenario.

Wait, should I be checking for Destroyer? I always assumed they were sulky singer-songwritery stuff, not white goon music.

New album is him trying to do just that.

Okay, the Destroyer song I checked out is totally white goon music and unsurprisingly I f/w it.

just to be clear when the reeducation fun zone is built i will be a collaborator and will not be fraternizing with john justen

polica kinda started off as a gayngs thing (ryan olsen produces and channy sings) but they might be better and are starting to break out of local mpls hype:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/feb/17/new-band-polica

it was a good year when this thread title was off of sna.

listening to "The Gaudy Side of Town" as I type.

This is loads better than Kaputt

pretty nice. didn't expect so much live drums.

they should get stokley williams and michael bland up in there.

drummers are two of the best in town, esp ben ivascu

btw played a show about 1 1/2 ago with this singer called Mayda who is being groomed/produced by michael bland, so he plays in her live band

he appears not well at all :(

still played like a metronome tho