This is your rolling New York Knicks trainwreck thread

CSheridanESPN Chris Sheridan/Amar'e Stoudemire said he spokely briefly with Carmelo Anthony after trade was agreed to.

sounds awkward.

i think hollinger makes a lot of sense, altho i think he's underrating melo as a player

honestly it seems to me like the nba is sort of starting to resemble baseball a bit, tho in an even more exaggerated fashion

like you have the top tier destination spots in the nba now where ppl seem to agree that all FAs want to go (miami, LA, ny, chicago, and i think you could add boston in here once kg/ray/pierce nucleus moves on) just like you have in baseball (yanks, sox, phils etc) except in the nba you have these teams wielding the nature of their locale as the trump card as opposed to the ability to just pay out the wazoo like the red sox or something

then you have everyone else basically, and those teams break down into teams that will spend big money on players and those that won't/can't. like, in the nba you have joe johnson signing a max deal, igoudala coming close, but none of those teams are gonna seriously compete for an nba title any time soon, and i think it's sort of the equivalent of like the mariners signing jayson werth, or the mariners doling out massive money for chone figgins, or the jays paying out their ass for vernon wells

& then you have the smart teams that are gonna lay back & rebuild organically cuz that's the only way you can. like, the thunder = the rays (durant = longoria even) as a team w/ a very smart front office that schooled everyone in draft/development & then even teams like the clippers or memphis (despite throwing mad money at rudy gay) who are developing potential contenders thru the draft, tho even against their will in the clippers case

anyway my point is that i think for a team like denver this is prob a blessing in disguise if their management is good enough, because they're a mid-tier team & signing carmelo to the max for the next three years wasn't gonna bring them any close.

i know it's not a perfect analogy but that's sorta how it feels to me

totally true. makes me wonder if -- in response -- the owners will demand a revenue-sharing type of system, like the nfl has.

well its more that they couldve gotten melo but if they didnt then they prob could get someone even better next year - its speculative for sure - especially considering no one knows what the new cba will look like - but the fact that melo/deron/paul/howard all seem to have some level of interesting new york makes it maybe not such a bad bet - on the other hand melo was actually getable now which has a lot to say for itself - but BUT theyve hamstrung themselves going forward by giving up so much/signing two max players who arent uber eliete guys

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:38 AM (3 hours ago)

yeah this is how i'm seeing this too

that 538 article is great

the first comment on the 538 article is hilarious

"Great article. First time I've seen John Hollinger's stats used for something relevant."

ouch.

woj is unreal

i love that one (unsourced) quote btw

When asked on Tuesday how much involvement Thomas had in the Anthony trade, Walsh jabbed, “I’m assuming Isiah’s getting ready for the NCAA tournament.”

lol.

Once, Thomas brought Dolan with him on a comic-strip recruiting mission of Kobe Bryant(notes): Together, they traveled to California armed with an electric offer: Come take the midlevel exception for a chance to play with Stephon Marbury(notes).

ahhahahahah

yeah, this sounds like an overblown story. this article sounds like it was kobe playing games with the LAL back in 2004. significantly, however, the linked article does say, in a completely serious-sounding tone, that the NYK tried to entice the LAL to trade kobe bryant for allan houston.

http://grab.by/9hnS

kidna looks like tyler the creator

new ilh board descrip: "Seriously, who the [expletive] is Isiah kidding with this [expletive]"

Kinda feel like the trade made both teams better

Since the Melo trade, Nuggets have been 10-3, Knicks have been 7-7. Interesting.

it's almost as if the knicks traded away their entire team and are now forced to give major minutes to ronny turiaf, jared jefferies and toney douglas

after one its the milwaukee bucks 32 and YOUR new york knicks 9

noooooo way

well, you know what they say about early sunday afternoon games for road teams in milwuakee

a photo pf george karl laughing: http://grab.by/9zZQ

knicks made a comeback - down by 3 8 minutes left

the bucks won by five points

lol?

took yall this important photo while i was in ny

http://i52.tinypic.com/2lcmlic.jpg

clip art that's printed out is next level imo

speling

http://www.candyfavorites.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/HFCA295.jpg

Knicks acquire Amare Stoudemire in off season and Carmelo Anthony at the trading deadline!!

Knicks make playoffs for the first time in umpty-diddly years!!

Knicks get swept 4-0 by the Celtics in the first round!!

Uh. Progress!!

happy trails, donnie

loooool let me guess, they're bringing isiah back

The Knicks are the gift that keeps on giving.

donnie will next be gm'ing a retirement home

if isiah comes back i will lol so hard for so long

it would be the lol to end all lols

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/knicks_owner_band_to_tour_with_the_pGnznDjO6BxuU0KrERaSuI#axzz2WmuCnHCZ

lol his band is so obviously a bunch of expensive hired guns -- he stinks

moar like Jimmy D and the Foul Shot

JD

whatever

Dolan out the jamz

lol

a good year means you need throwback trainwreck
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31335411/inside-knicks-secret-attempt-lure-michael-jordan-bulls