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me too. thx fr the update tom.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

Dastoor: I hate you.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

If you want to make super-goofy Harthouse 1996-era trance this thing will get you sorted out in about 10 minutes (just like every other software studio ever written. hooray.)

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago) link

FOOKING IDVD4 WON'T BURN DVDS (at least on my computer, which is the best damn model Apple makes and is loaded to the hilt with toys.) I'm ready to kill Apple over this, BTW.

The rest of iLife 4 is great. GarageBand is very, very serviceable. I mean really, for $49 you can't expect killer drums...is it just me or are drums THE hardest thing to put into a computer application and get a killer result?

― don weiner, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 02:44 (twenty years ago) link

Do audio units work in Garage Band, Tom?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 06:51 (twenty years ago) link

Where is my precious? I wants it, I wants it, I wants it! Nasty UPS to keep my precious from me!

― the river fleet, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:01 (twenty years ago) link

Ed: Yes.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago) link

Do you have jack. Plug anything into anything, musician mates are raving about it.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

In the next two weeks I will be buying:

airport extreme base station
airport extreme card
512 megs ram for my ibook
new ibook battery
lacie external hard drive

are there deals/combos/anything like that anywhere???

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:50 (twenty years ago) link

Why waste money of the airport extreme base station you can get any number much cheaper 802.11g base stations. Less elegant, less easy to configure but still cheaper.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

The Airport still has the built-in modem for dialup connections.

Y4nc3y, my advice to you is to find a job working for the government or educational institution of some sort. Failing that, enroll in a school. Also if you order online have it delivered to an address in a state that has no Apple Store, to save on sales tax.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

i'm going airport cuz my roommates are gonna use it too and they want the whole shebang. also: i need airport for a work trip to miami in a month or so.

tom! u r OTM. my moms works for a college, so maybe i'll see if she can order for me. dunno why i didn't think of that.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

There's a state with no Apple Store?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

how much do those new ibook batteries cost? and are they worth buying (ie why buy one?). plus: how much are those lacie external hard-drives?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

ibook battery = $130 US (i need one cuz mine died in four months)
200 gig lacie hard drive = $250ish US

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

ouch.

if i buy a new battery will it extend my life?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

yes

how long have you had your battery?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

yes, you will live at least until yr aged 128

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

um. well i've had it as long as i've had the comp. which is a reconditioned ibook g3 600mhz, 540mb ram running panther. and i reckon i get abt 1hr 15 out of the battery unplugged. : /

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

i've had the comp since last june but as i say it's reconditioned - so the comp is older obv.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

if only it was that easy yanc3y ('and if i buy a new hard drive i can have more memories!!!' etc)

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

generally yoou should be at 2/3rds charge by end of year two and almost dead by end of year three (since battery manufaacture)

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

200 gig lacie hard drive = $250ish US

I bought this on Amazon for $230 I believe. Works great.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

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on the train home from work a few minutes ago, my ipod froze. on restart i got the folder with the exclamation point screen. my computer won't recognize it. i'm on hold with apple now. fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuc kfkjdfkdsjgkfsjdpvsdk

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 January 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

! :-( Yeesh, horrid. Hm, how long have you had the iPod?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 January 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago) link

That happened while you were using it? Eep!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 January 2004 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

i've had it since may of 2002. it's gone. all gone. $250 to repair.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:56 (twenty years ago) link

FYI the educational discount on this shit aint that hot these days.

― Allyzay, Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

Class action suit, here you come!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:57 (twenty years ago) link

the really bizarre thing? minutes before mine died i had gotten a call from my girlfriend saying that hers had just died. and one of my roommates' ipod died last week! it's like andromeda strain w/ more plastic!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:59 (twenty years ago) link

Y... yes, that's what I meant by "class action suit".

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 January 2004 05:00 (twenty years ago) link

I'm getting the cheap-o Lacie drive for ~100. I wanted to buy it today at the Apple store but they only sell the firewire card for Windows. One person at the store told me that it would work on my computer, another told me that it wouldn't.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 22 January 2004 06:52 (twenty years ago) link

if it's cardbus then the Mac will just recognise it and it will work.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 22 January 2004 07:01 (twenty years ago) link

Haha, I love how mac people are constantly like "PCs always crash, Macs never do" and then every other sentence out of their mouths is "Oh God my Mac just crashed!!!"

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 22 January 2004 07:29 (twenty years ago) link

Speaking of batteries...

Why does my battery say it's got like 30% remaining, then suddenly sleep? I realise that it's needing to keep some power back to keep data in the memory etc until such time as I can recharge or hook up to power, but if so, then its very un-apple to not show usable' power and time remaining, isn't it?

Is there a way to make sure that the battery guagues on the menu show me what I've got to play with as a user rather than what the machine has to play with?

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:11 (twenty years ago) link

It's because the Powerbooks battery management is completely fucked. The battery remaining seems to be done on some sort of timing mechanism whereas the sleep is done on the actual battery strength at at a particular instance. Because the batteries themselves are prone to memory issues, these two things often don't produce the same results.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:37 (twenty years ago) link

Aha. Has some geek turned their mind to this with a view to resolving it, or is the 'it's fucked' conclusion the best the boffins can do for us?

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:44 (twenty years ago) link

Well, not being involved with Apple development anymore, I can't really say, but I have a suspicion that if it was easily fixable it would have been sorted by now. It might have been fixed in 10.3, mind.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:49 (twenty years ago) link

It's still not here. Curse UPS. I bet the shipping guy told them it was a bomb as a joke and they took it off and arrested it. I WANT MY FREAKING POWERBOOK AND I WANT IT NOW!!!

― the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

have you tried calibrating your battery dave?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

two tips for battry life, all lithium ion batteries are pretty much gone somewhere between two and three years post manufacturing, this is why an extended warranty for laptops is a good idea if batteries are include

On the Mac if you want to reset the Power Management Unit, to get better battery life accuracy,this article shows you how.

and Dan I,

% uptime 19:25 up 26 days, 5:38, 6 users, load averages: 0.69 0.32 0.28

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

Calibrating? Battery? I am not understanding of your fancy ways.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 23 January 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

it's quite easy--just use your computer, unplugged, until it automatically goes to sleep. then plug it in and let it charge to full power. this may or may not help.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago) link

I may be uhhhh, "acquiring" a copy of Garage Band soon and a pdf that purports to explain it all to me. What will I find, I wonder?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 23 January 2004 08:28 (twenty years ago) link

And also to Dan I.


% uptime
0:45  up 31 days,  6:13, 2 users, load averages: 0.00 0.02 0.00

And that last restart was just to run the 10.3.2 update

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 23 January 2004 08:46 (twenty years ago) link

I CANNOT BELIEVE THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS AT J&R HAVE NOT EVEN SHIPPED MY COMPUTER YET!!! WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING THAT IS TAKING SO LONG?!?!? SHIPS IN ONE TO TWO DAYS, MY FUCKING ARSE!!!!

I am really angry and waiting for the customer service line to wake the fuck up.

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 12:45 (twenty years ago) link

adam - i will love you with my heart if i cd "acquire" a copy of garage band and supporting pdf. :)

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

Is it stuck in customs? My iPod was stuck in customs for a damn long time.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

I WOULD LOVE YOU TOO ADAM.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:10 (twenty years ago) link

Cozen-I still have a cdr full of stuff I promised you about a year ago that I feel terribly guilty about not sending out. Give me the wknd and I will see what I can do. s1ocki, too.

The pdf turned out to be a red herring, sadly. :(

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

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