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well i bought a supercute little FED-3 for £31 incl deliver and a leather case. goes from 1s-1/500+B so i figure it can be my night one for throwing some 800/1600 (depending) into. feel v. excited about all this btw!

plax (ico), Friday, 18 February 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, its not a leica but i've never used a leica so idk what im missing and its a helluva lot more appro for my budget.

plax (ico), Friday, 18 February 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

My parents bought themselves at 60D (which I will probably be selling for them in a year when they realize it hasn't been used). I've played it with for a few hours here and there - definitely an improvement over the T2i/Rebel series (which is what my brother just got, giving them the impetus to buy something one step better), and the viewfinder is pretty big and bright for a crop sensor (except at night indoors, with the kit zoom).

The fold out screen is interesting - I could see maybe using it during the day, when shutter speeds are high enough to not care (holding a camera at arms' length to view an LCD screen is less stable than elbows locked and braced against your face). But OTOH, in daylight is it going to be visible at all? Guessing it would be more useful to someone who has some idea WTF they're doing with video.

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i got my fn ФЭД

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 March 2011 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i get the focusing thing, it made no sense to me when it was explained. dying to get a test roll but its like it takes forever to take all those photos.

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 March 2011 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link

it doesnt have to.

gr8080, Saturday, 5 March 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

well i had work all day and i got it today. i might be 2/3 through a 36 roll

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 March 2011 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

KIU!!!

gr8080, Saturday, 5 March 2011 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

My friend's dad gave me his Pentax Spotmatic F w/ 50mm f/4 macro lens tonight, he used it for 30 years to copy slides for his classes and Powerpoint made it obsolete. I love the feel of the camera, so solid and smooth.
Need to order a cheap fast 50 from KEH.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 06:22 (twelve years ago) link

That was my dad's camera too! Had a 50mm lens with a big wide f/1.4 aperture. Still has it, although it was replaced with a ZX-5n that he only used for a couple of years before switching to a high-end Canon digital.

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 07:41 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

just wanted to say I dig this thread. keeping it from slipping the surly bonds of new answers.
I like the timeline of everyone's continued interests and acquisitions, etc.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Friday, 9 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

I realized maybe day before yesterday, in the middle of a conversation, that at worst i always have at least one camera on my person, on my phone. There's also one on my iPod. And another one on my iPad. And there's my pocket Powershot. And then there's my DSLR Nikon. So when I show up to work most days, with my overstuffed backpack, I actually have six cameras on me, or eight if you count the two cameras on the iPad and iPod. So there are two good cameras, one middling one (on my Android phone), and four completely shit ones. And sitting at my desk here at home, I realize I have two MORE cameras -- the webcams on my iMac and my PC. I have a LOT of cameras. They have different functions, and only two of them take actually acceptable photos.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link

all of those take acceptable photos imo

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

The iCrap, even? Really? Maybe in special, perfect, mid-day circumstances.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

best camera is the one you have etc etc

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

love the one you're with

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link

Right, assuming you're taking a picture of something that you could never take another picture of. The iPod camera doesn't have any white balance control, though, for one example of how it's shit. On a cloudy day, with none of the yellow sun that gives Superman his powers, everything is washed out and aqua. It sucks. Hipstamatic helps a little tiny bit, but not enough that it makes it a great camera all of a sudden.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

And I'm not going to spend more than two bucks to try to make a bad lens look like a good one. And ffs, the fray "old photo" effect is over, dead, buried, and stop using it plz.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

kenan the funny thing is that you despite having 8 diff cameras always take the same photo of your face over and over

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

jk lol

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

you should check out some of the photojournalism done with iphones kenan

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

xp It's the same face! What am I supposed to do?

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

xp Ah see the iPHONE has a much different, much better camera in it. The iPod and the iPad2 both have low-rent garbage. Seriously.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

But of course the other cliche is that it's a poor craftsman who blames his tools. You can take a great photo with anything that captures light and records it somehow. But I'll stand my my point -- these Apple prodocts that are expected to be used for videochat as best have terrible, awful, no good, very bad cameras in them. The very least they could get away with and still call it a camera.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

In the case of the iPod especially, this camera was a waste of the Chinese people's time and effort.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

. . .

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

That was a dark joke. Do you see?

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

I'm very amused

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not. People are jumping out the windows at Foxconn, and I still have a shitty camera. Someone died for THIS?

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

That was an even darker joke. I'll quit while I'm behind.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

note to self: excellent thread revive

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago) link

all of those take acceptable photos imo

― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:48 (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^
photos are weird, i think their value in having captured their subject far outstrips their proficiency in whatever other respects, exponentially, over time. i am here to tell the your cameras thread that you are too concerned about your cameras.

john-claude van donne (schlump), Saturday, 10 March 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

not me

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Saturday, 10 March 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

for web display just about anything made now is acceptable, but if you want to print larger than 4x6, some cameras are better than others

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

oh I should prob link to one of my favorite flickr photographers: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47477258@N04/page1/
a lot of pictures that seem to be taken with digital point and shoots, cell phones (maybe?), as well as whatever else (all digital) and I think it looks fantastic. a totally different aesthetic from what I'm used to dealing with, but I think it looks fantastic. there's something I like about the really rough digital image, even though I'm too into film/my old cameras to go there myself.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Sunday, 11 March 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

shit I really didn't think I said fantastic twice. small vocabulary

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Sunday, 11 March 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

man, they're great. http://www.flickr.com/photos/47477258@N04/6801902428/in/photostream.
i don't have examples up my sleeve but it reminds me of something that came up when i was asking for lens advice; the maybe skewed priority of sharpness, and rendering, when there are photos in which those features aren't an advantage or an asset, when clarity isn't crucial or helpful.

john-claude van donne (schlump), Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, it's sort of like how people trade exposing tips and talk about how to massage raw files to avoid ever blowing out highlights etc. and then one day you think, wait, why does this matter?? I've seen many good pictures in my day with blown highlights and it's never bothered me, digital or otherwise.
here's someone else on flickr who has a lot of digital blown highlights, iso artifacts, etc., and I think her pictures are glorious: http://www.flickr.com/photos/elena_vidor/

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

matters bc it pisses off dayo iirc
we should post some of our best bad photos!, i am gonna think, i really have quite a library.

john-claude van donne (schlump), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

yeah there's something very appealing about 'straight' photography - I think it requires a lot of confidence! I like this one:

http://i.imgur.com/iIqAZ.png

the flatness of which reminds me of

http://i.imgur.com/jyfcB.jpg

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

lol I am going through her flickr now and I don't see anything that's explicitly about blown highlights?

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

these are the kinds of blown highlights that piss me off:

http://i.imgur.com/3QxKg.jpg

the upper left part

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

or something like this: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_sd850-review/IMG_0017.JPG

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

ILP man shakes fist at cloud

john-claude van donne (schlump), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

lol. there's def a difference between blown highlights and blown highlights used aesthetically. like this pic from that photographer def works

http://www.flickr.com/photos/elena_vidor/5101410623/in/photostream

I don't begrudge high-keyed photos as a matter of principle - but I think when a photographer is aiming for an otherwise quotidian scene like a forest or a hallway like above and lets the highlights get blown it's very distracting. I guess maybe the Q is, are there other parts of the photograph that can distract the gaze.

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

like the abrupt transition from dark branches to white sky is bad, it's not so bad here and there's plenty else to look at and it's even part of the image itself, the transition from midtones to highlights as the gaze moves upwards

http://www.flickr.com/photos/elena_vidor/6467002099/in/photostream

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

I almost posted that one earlier as an example of a picture that I love. I had a hard time at first determining if the very bright values were technically blown or not, but whatever else I think it's a beautiful image.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

got distracted by making & consuming oatmeal in the meantime

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

yeah there's a difference between an image being high-keyed and the highlights being blown. robert adams is an example of a photographer (who shoots in B&W no less) who prints to emphasize the bright values. shooting into the sun is probably going to result in blown highlights no matter what. but the effect is certainly striking! here's another from her stream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/elena_vidor/3998105339/in/photostream

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link


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