Lots of folks were going who is that guy (Saadiq) playing guitar on the Grammys with Mick Jagger (doing a Soloman Burke tribute)
http://www.spinner.com/2011/02/13/mick-jagger-grammys/
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't know until I read it somewhere (and had wondered why Jagger paid the guitarist so much attention).
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
alright haters, get ready to fall in love again.
otm
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghetto_Golf
― Wrong-Way Willy (Andy K), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
cutty in the video!
― bang-proof-bling-mans (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Suddenly looking forward to this album. Jesus.
― Wrong-Way Willy (Andy K), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
WUT xxp
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to him on gilles peterson's show. the songs are actually good (the larry dunn solo on one of them is A++++), with good playing, production, nice arrangements, etc etc, but his lyrics are so fucking inane, it renders the whole thing hollow. another dissapointing album. shame cos id like to see a R&B guitarist/singer get popular.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
I know, extraordinary black talent - not worth listening to because it's not English Department material.
― welcome to stalinois (u s steel), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link
if youre being sarcastic, theres a diff between decent, passable lyrics, and lines that really just sound lazy. im not wanting him to be gil scot heron or curtis, just sound like a little bit of effort was made in that dept. i think the problem is prob that hes thinking that lyrics that would have worked fine in the 50s/early 60s are still acceptable today. hes gone too far with the period details and ended up very anonymous.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
hes thinking that lyrics that would have worked fine in the 50s/early 60s are still acceptable today
What are you talking about? Please quote the lyrics that you find inane and then explain why you think they would have worked in the "50s/early 60s" but are not "acceptable today" .
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
She knows I like it like thatShe knows where exactly is thatShe knows I like it like thatThat girl is going on my hatShe knows I like it like thatShe knows where exactly is that
i suppose 'acceptable' could be substituted for 'harmless'/'inoffensive'/'forgettable'
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh those lyrics arent terrible, theres just something about the saadiqs ongoing retro enterprise that seems too inoffensive. he can do better than trying to latch onto the retro bandwagon.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm not crazy about the retro thing. It got him an NPR All Songs Considered concert in the US at SxSW (they'd never broadcast Trey Songz or Jazmine Sullivan). But can his retro approach reach both an r'n'b audience and an NPR/Pitchfork audience?
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
who is his audience in the states? i didnt think he was even doing that well with this stuff. cant imagine the p4k crowd like him retro or as he was (instant vintage era), so the only ppl i think whod be into him are those of a certain age, people who like lite starbucks-type stuff or as he prob hopes, ppl into winehouse, joss stone, or adele. i thought he would get marketed as the 'authentic' answer to what theyre doing. i feel sorry for artists like him and badu (whose last record was actually v similar to what saadiqs doing, she was just mining from a diff, later era) - they always get lost in the shuffle. :|
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
That girl is going on my hat
?!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
that line at least has the added bonus of not making much sense, which makes it seem a bit more interesting than most of the others. saadiq used to have a really good sense of humour but he seems to have lost it somewhere. if i was at his label i would FORCE him to get write with dwayne again.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel sorry for artists like him and badu (whose last record was actually v similar to what saadiqs doing, she was just mining from a diff, later era) - they always get lost in the shuffle. :|
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, April 6, 2011 3:59 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark
wtf are you even talking about
― timbo slice (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
the badu record was critically acclaimed & got mad airplay, the saadiq looks to do the same
― timbo slice (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
― welcome to stalinois (u s steel), Wednesday, April 6, 2011 3:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
considering this was us steel it may not have been sarcastic :-/
― timbo slice (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
also curtis had plenty of hammy lyrics fwiw
im not in the states so i dont know how well theyre doing. but i never think of these guys as really getting the p4k type crowd on board, just a large R&B audience, despite the good write ups. and yeah i know curtis had lots of hammy lyrics but he had plenty that werent. better ratio than saadiq in any case. r&b has never been about lyrics i know blah blah
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
yes it has!
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess I would understand you better if you explained what genre "is about" the lyrics, and what you look for in them.
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
it is about lyrics, i dont know what saadiq's lyrics are like on the rest but they didnt bother me on 'good man' the way the weeknd's do or something
― timbo slice (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
saw him on Later with Jools last night, had to turn it off after 30 seconds. oh dear.
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
All my favorite R&B artists (Aretha, Otis, Smokey, Al Green, EW&F, Gaye, Prince, Stevie Wonder, O'Neal) have written or sung great lyrics.
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post"Oh dear" what?
but i never think of these guys as really getting the p4k type crowd on board, just a large R&B audience, despite the good write ups.
That's the p4k crowd's loss.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yes yes some of my favourite R&B artists have had great lyrics from marvin to curtis to erykah and donnie, i was pre-empting anyone who was gonna come in with 'oh but R&B has never really been about lyrics'
in fact i dont want to get into that sort of thorny discussion right now, i have other things to do
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
oh dear this is some ultra ultra bland cringeworthy awfulness with facial expressions reminding me of Glee.
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
What, this thread?
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
x-postDo you like what he has done in the past solo or with Tony Toni Tone?
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha
this was my first experience of him. not a good one.
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
had to turn it off after 30 seconds
That was quick considering it was your first experience with him.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I still haven't gotten around to the album in this thread's title, need to do so before the new one comes out I suppose.
Always loved "Ask of You" from the (lol) Higher Learning soundtrack.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
This is my OG Saadiq jam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anemdasc_EY
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, April 6, 2011 6:32 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Suggest Go Away
― timbo slice (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
yup
― kl0ppa kl0ppa down (tpp), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link
If he's talking about "Radio", then he is otm.
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc hes talking about raphael saadiq
― timbo slice (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I dunno, that was a pretty vague comment.
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 April 2011 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link
yes it was 'Radio'
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 7 April 2011 07:36 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lnx9J0elvw
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 7 April 2011 07:37 (thirteen years ago) link
The retro aspect is competent but too forced there. Saadiq was great live when I saw him as part of Toni Toni Tone opening for Prince way back when and he's done lots more since that Jamie ATP ought to consider for more than the 30 seconds he gave him on the Jools Holland show appearance.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone own the new one? Andy Kellman and Xgau both love it. I've only heard "Go To Hell."
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
I mentioned it in the r and b thread to little response bit I like a lot
― D40 (D-40), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
I keep forgetting about that thread. thanks.
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
this one is much better than the one this thread is named for imo
― D40 (D-40), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, I do prefer Stone Rollin'.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 June 2011 13:22 (twelve years ago) link