Radiohead - The King of Limbs

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Well it's also easier to figure out what to do with a file ending in ".zip" ("hmm, maybe I need to... unzip it?") than what to do with a file ending in ".rar" ("I spent 10 minutes roaring into the microphone and I still can't get to my mp3s ;_;")

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Please note that compression software data for the entire discography is also included. This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify hearing results, individual album compression data will need to be obtained from the band.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't even think Factory released a file compression program under a cat number.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Jordan - I would guess about 82 mbs compressed. I would guess they would use 320 kbps MP3s after the shitstorm that occured after In Rainbows was released as a 160 kbps MP3 (really a dumb decision, but whatever), I still think they probably have no idea what VBR is so I doubt they'd use it. I think 320 is like 2 mb = 1 minute, and my guess is this album will be 52 minutes long, so 104 mb compressed which should be like 82, but my math might be totally off.

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

104 mb compressed which should be like 82

That would be SERIOUSLY compressed. I'd guess that 104mb worth of data compressed by standard rar settings would result in something around 96-98mb.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

compression of an already compressed mp3 will be more like 1%.

ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I guess you're probably right...so my guess would be 98 then. I don't really pay attention to compressed file sizes anymore since we live in a world of terabyte hard drives but it doesn't surprise me that I got it totally wrong.

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i like to sidechain compress my files to the kick drum

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

zip feels like a nut, rar doesn't

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I'm always hoping that they won't sound grim
But it's my destiny to buy The King of Limbs

buzza, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

So, about the music...

I'm excited to see a tracklist. There have been a couple of new songs that Thom played over the last year (titles escape me right now) that didn't impress me at the time, but then again, I wasn't that impressed by "house of cards" when it was first played, and that ended up being one of my favorite songs on In Rainbows.

fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (Z S), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

There were a few songs on Jonny's Norweigian Wood soundtrack that I thought could have been transformed into really cool rh songs.

fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (Z S), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Some of the tracks off that are basically the soundcheck arrangement of The Present Tense.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

So... right now there's not really much material for us to get excited about right? Just a release date and some artwork. Hope to see at least some tracklist before the record comes out... more fun to speculate on actual songs... guessing which song got resurrected from the vault this time... (lift, big boots, true love waits...)... is 'these are my twisted words' included somewhere in there and is it a clue on the sort of sound we should expect?

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Wonder will 'Twisted Words' be on it? Or hey maybe 'Lift' at last lol. this site seems to think it might know what's going on. dunno mind:
http://www.citizeninsane.eu/tkol.html

piscesx, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

say this every time: hope they've got some 10-minute songs on that thing

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked the concise but still unusual song structures of In Rainbows myself.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

In Rainbows doesn't feel very memorable, surprising or important for me - if I only heard 15 Step, Reckoner and Jigsaw Falling Into Place again from it I'd be happy

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Hail To The Thief otoh is immense and everything I ask of Radiohead and more - propah fucken widescreen that record

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah well, you and me differ then. To some extent I actually like it so much because it doesn't sound like it's trying so hard to be 'important' as previous releases. Every song feels organic and unaffected.

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Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I love about half the tracks on HTTT, could definitely loose a couple though.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I disliked In Rainbows because I didn't think the songs worked well together. I enjoy those songs much more when I encounter them in isolation on Genius playlists than I do when I try to listen to the album; as a group, they don't really support or flow into each other very well, pretty much unlike every other Radiohed album aside from Pablo Honey.

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

can't tell if markers is being ironic or

― The image post from the hilarious "markers" internet persona (history mayne)

with the being excited for the record? not at all. i genuinely like radiohead

markers, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Again, I disagree. Works very well as piece IMO

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Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Wonder will 'Twisted Words' be on it? Or hey maybe 'Lift' at last lol. this site seems to think it might know what's going on. dunno mind:
http://www.citizeninsane.eu/tkol.html

― piscesx

It's a pretty good documentation of unreleased songs that they've been playing around recently. Unless 'burn the witch' ended up being renamed for something on In Rainbows it will most definitely appear this time around... remember I've seen that one mentioned frequently. Only song in there I recognize is 'follow me around' which I don't think has any chance of being released at this point but anything could happen.

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Thing is, Radiohead are a band who don't do 'organic and unaffected' so well - they're at their best when there's a sense of engaged and intelligent contrivance - they never 'jam', they control every detail masterfully and present every narrative as a hotwired, energy-packed and pristine mechanism whose internal logic has been endlessly considered and whose consequent Importance is implicit in its twists and turns. Other bands do 'organic and instinctive' really well, but Radiohead trying to do that left me cold - it felt like a compromise, with them watering down their surprising and arch narratives but not really coming up with a compelling method in its stead.

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

And yeah, In Rainbows as an album loses that sense of control and logic which all of Radiohead's other albums are bursting to display. 'Look at me, I'm fucken SEQUENCED'

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep, they work better in a calculated, controlled environment, I reckon they wouldn't make a decent jam band.

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

in rainbows is their best album btw

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I also liked In Rainbows more when I play it in random order; it made me briefly think my first impression of the album was wrong. (I had a similar thing happen with Pulp's This Is Hardcore which I loathed until I shuffled it; hearing it that way broke my preconceived notions and let me enjoy it in its original sequence. With In Rainbows, trying to play it in retail order reinforced how annoying I found the album as released.)

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

in rainbows is their best album btw
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tylerw, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I think this record will sound like dubstep.

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

oh god

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

haha I would be 100% behind that

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd agree with Rainbows being their best too if you hadn't gathered already. It's miles off from being jammy, thank god, and still very highly controlled. But toning down the overwroughtness a few notches really suits the band, for me. There aren't so many instantly show-stopping moments as previously, but there's still masses of drama on the album, it's just subtler, less immediate and ultimately more satisfying.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

well, a dubbier sound MIGHT work tbh - they'd have to do something interesting with it but it could be OK. my #1 album of last year was a 90's dude kinda getting his dubstep on so...

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Hail To The Thief otoh is immense and everything I ask of Radiohead and more - propah fucken widescreen that record

lj knows where it's at

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

My main problem with In Rainbows is that it lacks unarguable tunes tbh. Understated and subtle Radiohead resulted in A Punchup At A Wedding which is one of my favourite Radiohead songs, but that one's taut and nervous and unearthly and dramatic in a way that only a few of In Rainbows' tracks approach

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel very strange going into this album, because I used to love Radiohead's music, and now I don't get much pleasure out of it.

I will never forget finding out about In Rainbows...anticipating it like hell, and there on that Wednesday morning, seeing the update on the school internet. Limbs I'm just going to look forward to hearing this weekend, and try to reconnect and cast my mind back to my fandom of this band.

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess if they're going to go "subtle"* I'd rather they do so like "Go To Sleep" or "I Will" rather than... um I can't even match In Rainbows song titles to the songs, which one is the one in 6/8?

* this seems like a very odd word to use in conjunction with Radiohead

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah A Punchup isn't really *subtle* as such, more 'incremental', brooding, and eventually spectacular

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I listened to In Rainbows in the downstairs part of the library for the first time, bunking off a morning lesson as I was so excited. The chills lasted the entire day.

I would've ranked it as no2 behind Kid A across their discography.

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Punchup is the worst song on any Radiohead album, it's just plodding.

I predict this record will sound nothing like dubstep, either dubstep proper or some kind of James Blake indiestep. It would feel like too obvious a move.

Matt DC, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

hmmm...i...agree with lj!

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate Punchup too actually. My jam on HTTT was always Where I End And You Begin..

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

What? No! "Punchup" is fucking great!

At any rate nothing is worse than everything on Pablo Honey that isn't "Creep"

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

or "Blow Out" or "Stop Whispering"

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

(There are too many songs on HTTT that compete for favorite song from that album for me, which is another reason why it's my favorite Radiohead album.)

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

xp I don't know about proper predictions, but it just seems likely to me that they'll respond in their own way to 00s dubstep the way they did to 90s IDM.

Either way, I like how we've had barely any pointers or hints about its direction. Such a surprise when we hit play I guess..

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

god yeah, where to start? 2+2=5 is one of the best opening tracks qua opening tracks of the 00's and it keeps on being amazing from there onwards

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link


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