i can definitely see how moneyed kids affecting embracing their legacy of privilege via prep style would irritate; that's not exclusively the case of course but it's pretty visible
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 February 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
could be the fact that both these current styles kinda flatter their own permanence -- whether through "quality craftsmanship" and durability or the idea that men can abide by "permanent style" which never changes
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 February 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Workwear/lumberjacks is fine as long as it doesn't start looking like a Halloween costume. Flannel, jeans, boots - fine. Flannel, jeans, boots, watch cap, $800 Mr. Freedom peacoat, leather wallet rein, artisanal axe - not fine.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
boring white kids calling their harris tweeds & repp ties "crispy"
lol i follow a lot of the menswear tumblr blogs that do this kind of thing. i like prep/heritage stuff as well as workwear. but it can't look like you're trying too hard. a lot of times it does..
what's funny about these blogs is.. with some of them.. a dude will post hundreds of pix of nice looking, expensive things and finally when he posts a photo of himself, it's like.. um how do you spend all your time obsessing about fashion and you don't know how to buy things that fit properly and put them together?
personally i pay most attention to the subgenre of blogs that are all trying to look like clemence poesy/charlotte gainsbourg/models from la garconne, and all own the same isabel marant boots (that i would buy, if they were available in my size, but they're not). it's not a bad look imo
― daria-g, Monday, 14 February 2011 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link
you know who i really like is the street etiquette guys. i wish they'd post more
― daria-g, Monday, 14 February 2011 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah those guys are amazing. they post more stuff to their tumblr if you havent already checked that out
― ouroboros shoal (diamonddave85), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I do follow their tumblr. still needs more pix of Joshua because damn..
― daria, Monday, 14 February 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i follow a lot of the menswear tumblr blogs that do this kind of thing...
got links?
― "multi-culturalism has failed" - a.wenger (cozen), Monday, 14 February 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
these are both super overplayed and mostly populated now by try-hards and bloggers
― max, Monday, 14 February 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
you know what never goes out of style is a top hat
btw i dress "lumberjack" because those are the clothes my girlfriend picks out for me
today i wore a longsleeve henley top, grey hoodie, filson vest, jeans, boots, top hat
― max, Monday, 14 February 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
A recent Apartment Therapy House Tour featured one of those painted-handle axes prominently displayed in a shot, as, like, a dining table centerpiece? So gross.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, 14 February 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
/i follow a lot of the menswear tumblr blogs that do this kind of thing.../got links?
sure will look when I get home, on my phone at the moment. but #1 is ' how to talk to girls at parties'
― daria, Monday, 14 February 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
somehow they don't annoy me as much as some of the truly dopey womens blogs that are all about big retail stores and their clothes often don't fit properly
note I have a lot of clothes from like j crew and such but I don't feel compelled to blog about constantly buying more.
also the lumberjack thing- i like it when it is like the uniform of the early 90s, that is always cool. but at the time I felt like a dork for buying flannel shirts from llbean instead of goodwill- cannot imagine people obsessing over the labels of any of it.
― daria, Monday, 14 February 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i got a padded flannel shirt in pennys which is primark in the uk bc it was new years day and i was hitchhiking back from dingle and i was freezing by the time i made it to limerick and it cost €7 and i love it and wear it all the time. i only like things w/ mystical animals on it btw.
― plax (ico), Monday, 14 February 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i saw some of his mystical animal shirts btw - p great
wait Primark is called Penny's in Ireland? I was not aware. I sort of love Primark for cheap accessories and tank tops. I am not ashamed. OK, maybe only a little.
― ENBB, Monday, 14 February 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I kind of love this flannelhttp://www.ironheart.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=108&zenid=7e9f1d4d155d7838ed94309939362b34
But it's $350!
Yet when I go to the mall or look at llbean/Land's End/etc. no one is selling a flannel that looks half as good. All that patterns are smaller and old-mannish, the colors are duller and/or uglier. But I'd rather freeze to death (unlikely in TX) than drop $350 on a shirt.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l8rmf1PKg21qbhnx1.jpgFilson Mackinaw Cruiser, $300“Originally designed to protect timber cruisers during long days in the woods, our rugged Mackinaw Cruiser soon gained fame for exceptional warmth, comfort and durability. It’s famed for function too, with 4 front utility pockets, a 3-slot pocket, 2 hand warmer pockets, an open inner pocket, and a full-width map pocket in back. Made of our thickest, heaviest Mackinaw Wool, a proven barrier against wind, rain, snow and cold.”
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link
puts calluses on your hands too i bet
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i mean
― max, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
A couple of years ago Gap and J. Crew were all about solid-color earthtone shirts (utility, safari-style, etc.) - first they started ruining them with epaulets then they stopped doing them at all.
It is surprisingly hard to find a casual solid color men's shirt in a good green.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i have a green corduroy shirt
― max, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link
This thread reminds me that my ma owes me a plaid shirt. I'm still on the lookout for the ever elusive giant checked 90's plaids
― call me king bubbles and sound like a sheik sheik (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 06:17 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/NH5ru.gif <----nice gif
agreed
― max, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link
tehres; another version of that i saw years ago, where theres another dancing guy and they have boxing glvoes on and they dance around and box and it ends with them hugging, it was called BoxingQueers.gif
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link
this is kind of cool for a 1950's plaidhttp://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7958/plaidx.png
― call me king bubbles and sound like a sheik sheik (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 07:02 (thirteen years ago) link
idk maybe i'm prone to overthink this sort of thing but i find myself wondering what roland barthes would make of the "fashion system" of menswear blogs
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Pretty sure anyone still on or around Mackinaw Island in February is wearing more than a wool jacket. Fuck a $300 in the ear.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
but laurel -- it has a map pocket; where else am i going to put all my maps? in my ipad case make of a recycled 1940s work apron? i don't think so
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
do you expect me to put my maps under my top hat? pshaw
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
It's true, maps certainly aren't going to fit in the breast pocket that's been stitched down to suggest that it would feel much more self-actualized if it were stuffed with shotgun shells.
The funny thing is that I have a grey wool overshirt almost exactly like that one, but it doesn't have the shotgun pocket or the map pocket, the pockets don't have snappy flaps, and I got it in the outlet store in Batavia, NY for a song. Like MAYBE it was $15.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah see i stuff my shotgun shell pockets with d cell batteries so i can get that real authentic look
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
D batteries you salvaged from an abandoned steel mill as you photographed your way across the rust belt, you meant to say.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
guys i mean i feel you but come on
― max, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the weird thing w/the whole mid century outdoorsmen look is how many have embraced it so wholeheartedly - its not like theyre just adding a pair of redwings to their wardrobe or wearing an occasional flannel - its going whole hog down to how particularly the shit is rocked like cuffing yr selvage just so or w/e - and then theres j crew opening up menswear stores completely catering to what at this point seems more a statement of intent than a style - its saying weve occupied ourselves w/prissy nonsense for too long, lets get manly yall - but of course its not manly to obsess over w/e vintage eyelet detail in yr hiking boots so it just comes off vaguely drag queenish
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
also i feel like there are many long time standards in my wardrobe - woolrich jacket, wool sweater, beard - that i pair w/sneakers as is my habit and now i just look like some entry level vers of this guy
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
but w/e ive only been in ny like 1 month of the last year so i dont really have to worry abt it i guess
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
btw i think overall its a p nice look
Haha I just wrote and deleted a couple of lines about how people who are actually FROM the North Country or whatever semi-fictional places this gear is supposed to be worn, those people are more likely to be found wearing local state university sweatshirts and probably a garish ski parka. Even at the most woodsman-ish end of the spectrum, LL Bean, maybe Woolrich are about the most "authentic" you're gonna find.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
like this is the ll bean boot youre likely to see people wearing from where i type in n vermont
http://grab.by/8XHn
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
lol yes EXACTLY!
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe in 30 years nyc ad agency employees will be obsessing over nascar tshirts and photo realistic camo gear
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess the glib thing 2 say is that menswear is infatuated w/ any culture that signifies tradition/craft/heritage/permanence bcuz of the instability & uncertainty around men's identity 'in the modern world'. like these clothes were 1st worn by men w/an unthinking sort of command & mastery of their milieux or w/e. prep is less tiresome bcuz its still connected to its own essential nature & culture whereas the workwear thing is just gross now.
im p sick of both of these tho been torrenting old episodes of friends to jack chandler 95s style
― Lamp, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
otm re: statement of intent over style -- it's not so much the style that bugs me as how the garments are held as fetish objects of authenticity & masculinity. like if i have to read another graph about the naval origins & functional design of the peacoat then i will barf. yes it's a perennial classic look, it crops up every couple years, the only thing new this time is the emphasis on functionality when it is really no more or less functional than, say, a nylon parka
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah were in a stage where men generally are getting more into clothes but there seems to be the need in order to maintain a comfort level to quantify the experience via stats and history as far as how well it withstands the elements or like the fact that this pocket could conceivably be used for something that youll never use it for - its the rei outdoor gortex wicking headlamp gear mentality which imo is a v low form of materialism - guys should just admit to themselves that they like beautiful things and want to look beautiful - i think at that point theres room for powers of discernment to go way up
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess the glib thing 2 say is that menswear is infatuated w/ any culture that signifies tradition/craft/heritage/permanence bcuz of the instability & uncertainty around men's identity 'in the modern world'. like these clothes were 1st worn by men w/an unthinking sort of command & mastery of their milieux
Elephant in the room, totes obvious but hardly ever mentioned. And something I'm really conflicted about have v much appreciation for since that so-called "mastery" was at the expense of every group that wasn't Them.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
hey it was a good time to be a white american male *lights cigar, gazes toward the setting sun*
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
spotted @ the ri antiques mall: watch cap, checked shirt, canvas work vest, selvedge, red wings; dropping $$$$ on a midcentury teak sideboard like it wasn't even a thing
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
like this, sheesh
http://blogs.reuters.com/oddly-enough/files/2009/06/bike-messenger-280.jpg
― jaxon, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
haha. i see the first guy on this page around town all the time
http://www.fixedgearbikesarefuckinggay.com/fixie.html
― jaxon, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link
btw I am wearing black double knee carhartts and a flannel right this very second
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link
fuiud
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
yes but you live in minnesota, not brooklyn
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i was also wearing thesehttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2607/3840570672_11f4507a1f.jpg
not cool
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link
to the tumblr & blog dudes who post photos of their outfits laid out on the floor: ugh stop why
to the guys who include their FUCKING FIREARMS in these photos: good lord wtf is wrong with u
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
enough with the italian tailoring already
― jackie tretorn (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
i mean it must be p cool to be a wealthy neapolitan and the clothes sure are nice but tbh i'll be glad once the menswear set finds a new obsession, kinda sick of looking at one billion blue blazers every day
― jackie tretorn (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
camouflage, i guess? i don't hate it and i like that designers are looking to prints and patterns but tbh it's getting to be pretty worn down as far as masculine signifiers go
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
don't forget the whole camouflage-with-gold-embroidered-patterns-on-it thing
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link