overplayed style

you wear short sleeved flannels and cut offs but then you end up looking like a skin head.

it's also an LA hipster look tbh

tbrr i don't have an inherent problem with either of these styles tbh, when they are well done they are classic looks but something about the preoccupation with brand heritage & authenticity -- and how the brands try to capitalize on it -- really rings hollow for me, idk

actually think norse projects is more fisherman than lumberjack

ok I had to google norse projects and doesn't seem really lumberjacky to me but omg I love the colors of these new balances which still remain my fav sneakers: http://www.freshnessmag.com/2009/10/21/new-balance-x-norse-projects-m670/

http://i.imgur.com/NH5ru.gif ja it's more fishermanny http://i.imgur.com/NH5ru.gif

but something about the preoccupation with brand heritage & authenticity -- and how the brands try to capitalize on it -- really rings hollow for me, idk

― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Friday, February 11, 2011 4:32 PM Bookmark

In theory hertiage brands and well-made stuff should be a positive trend; the problem with it for me is that you know a lot of the guys buying the built-to-last filson jackets are probably going to put them in storage in a year or two when they buy the new must-have jacket.

yeah i guess lumberjack is maybe too specific for what i mean -- i guess it's more the outdoorsy workwear thing -- buffalo checks, red wings, oilcloth, alpine & fisherman sweaters, hunting caps, henleys, etc

xp yeah exactly h2

I had this pretentious idea for a while that I was going to write an essay about how the bestmade axe (a much blogged about designer axe made in NY with supposedly very high quality standards) is the ultimate icon of the current zeitgeist

these looks aren't style or fashion

lately though, I've been too drunk for fashion

the prep thing, otoh, annoys me because it's usually too close to home to really be ironic.

stradivariaxe is ironic?

I thought lumberjack style was to put on women's clothing and hang around in bars.

the last episode of community telegraphed lesbianism by dressing them in flannel... did that sort of thing predate the python sketch?

xpost no I just meant the urban lumberjack thing in general, in re irony. I mean I know we're all so many steps of irony removed from irony at this point that we don't think in these terms, but irony does have something to do with the origin of that style.

but something unironic about the prep origin is bothersome?

i can definitely see how moneyed kids affecting embracing their legacy of privilege via prep style would irritate; that's not exclusively the case of course but it's pretty visible

could be the fact that both these current styles kinda flatter their own permanence -- whether through "quality craftsmanship" and durability or the idea that men can abide by "permanent style" which never changes

Workwear/lumberjacks is fine as long as it doesn't start looking like a Halloween costume. Flannel, jeans, boots - fine. Flannel, jeans, boots, watch cap, $800 Mr. Freedom peacoat, leather wallet rein, artisanal axe - not fine.

boring white kids calling their harris tweeds & repp ties "crispy"

lol
i follow a lot of the menswear tumblr blogs that do this kind of thing. i like prep/heritage stuff as well as workwear. but it can't look like you're trying too hard. a lot of times it does..

what's funny about these blogs is.. with some of them.. a dude will post hundreds of pix of nice looking, expensive things and finally when he posts a photo of himself, it's like.. um how do you spend all your time obsessing about fashion and you don't know how to buy things that fit properly and put them together?

personally i pay most attention to the subgenre of blogs that are all trying to look like clemence poesy/charlotte gainsbourg/models from la garconne, and all own the same isabel marant boots (that i would buy, if they were available in my size, but they're not). it's not a bad look imo

you know who i really like is the street etiquette guys. i wish they'd post more

yeah those guys are amazing. they post more stuff to their tumblr if you havent already checked that out

yeah I do follow their tumblr. still needs more pix of Joshua because damn..

i follow a lot of the menswear tumblr blogs that do this kind of thing...

got links?

these are both super overplayed and mostly populated now by try-hards and bloggers

you know what never goes out of style is a top hat

btw i dress "lumberjack" because those are the clothes my girlfriend picks out for me

today i wore a longsleeve henley top, grey hoodie, filson vest, jeans, boots, top hat

A recent Apartment Therapy House Tour featured one of those painted-handle axes prominently displayed in a shot, as, like, a dining table centerpiece? So gross.

/i follow a lot of the menswear tumblr blogs that do this kind of thing.../

got links?

sure will look when I get home, on my phone at the moment. but #1 is ' how to talk to girls at parties'

somehow they don't annoy me as much as some of the truly dopey womens blogs that are all about big retail stores and their clothes often don't fit properly

note I have a lot of clothes from like j crew and such but I don't feel compelled to blog about constantly buying more.

also the lumberjack thing- i like it when it is like the uniform of the early 90s, that is always cool. but at the time I felt like a dork for buying flannel shirts from llbean instead of goodwill- cannot imagine people obsessing over the labels of any of it.

yeah i got a padded flannel shirt in pennys which is primark in the uk bc it was new years day and i was hitchhiking back from dingle and i was freezing by the time i made it to limerick and it cost €7 and i love it and wear it all the time. i only like things w/ mystical animals on it btw.

i saw some of his mystical animal shirts btw - p great

wait Primark is called Penny's in Ireland? I was not aware. I sort of love Primark for cheap accessories and tank tops. I am not ashamed. OK, maybe only a little.

I kind of love this flannel
http://www.ironheart.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=108&zenid=7e9f1d4d155d7838ed94309939362b34

But it's $350!

Yet when I go to the mall or look at llbean/Land's End/etc. no one is selling a flannel that looks half as good. All that patterns are smaller and old-mannish, the colors are duller and/or uglier. But I'd rather freeze to death (unlikely in TX) than drop $350 on a shirt.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l8rmf1PKg21qbhnx1.jpg
Filson Mackinaw Cruiser, $300
“Originally designed to protect timber cruisers during long days in the woods, our rugged Mackinaw Cruiser soon gained fame for exceptional warmth, comfort and durability. It’s famed for function too, with 4 front utility pockets, a 3-slot pocket, 2 hand warmer pockets, an open inner pocket, and a full-width map pocket in back. Made of our thickest, heaviest Mackinaw Wool, a proven barrier against wind, rain, snow and cold.”

puts calluses on your hands too i bet

lol i mean

A couple of years ago Gap and J. Crew were all about solid-color earthtone shirts (utility, safari-style, etc.) - first they started ruining them with epaulets then they stopped doing them at all.

It is surprisingly hard to find a casual solid color men's shirt in a good green.

i have a green corduroy shirt

This thread reminds me that my ma owes me a plaid shirt. I'm still on the lookout for the ever elusive giant checked 90's plaids

http://i.imgur.com/NH5ru.gif <----nice gif

agreed

tehres; another version of that i saw years ago, where theres another dancing guy and they have boxing glvoes on and they dance around and box and it ends with them hugging, it was called BoxingQueers.gif

this is kind of cool for a 1950's plaid
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7958/plaidx.png

idk maybe i'm prone to overthink this sort of thing but i find myself wondering what roland barthes would make of the "fashion system" of menswear blogs

Pretty sure anyone still on or around Mackinaw Island in February is wearing more than a wool jacket. Fuck a $300 in the ear.

but laurel -- it has a map pocket; where else am i going to put all my maps? in my ipad case make of a recycled 1940s work apron? i don't think so

do you expect me to put my maps under my top hat? pshaw

It's true, maps certainly aren't going to fit in the breast pocket that's been stitched down to suggest that it would feel much more self-actualized if it were stuffed with shotgun shells.

The funny thing is that I have a grey wool overshirt almost exactly like that one, but it doesn't have the shotgun pocket or the map pocket, the pockets don't have snappy flaps, and I got it in the outlet store in Batavia, NY for a song. Like MAYBE it was $15.

I could see a normal person doing all of those except the beard, if they were working in the yard on a cold day or whatever. The beard is what takes that over-the-top and into "you had better be a professional waterman or something" territory.

oh sure, they are all practical clothes for getting hard work done. but the original post is about the lumberjack look as urban street style, which is just silly.

Yeah, probably wouldn't mess with omre than two of those at a time then.

more

i'll be honest. i have worn all of them at the same time (i hardly ever wear watchcaps though), but there's a matter of costume that makes this go from stylish to corny. like compare these two pix.

imo, stylish
http://static3.slamxhype.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/pointer-jacket-3.jpg

in everyone's opinion, i'm sure, hella stoops
http://images.nymag.com/guides/everything/urbanwoodsman/woodsman100208_560.jpg

If you know what a "chore jacket" is, you don't rly need one.

Otherwise you'd just call it "my jacket."

Possibly "my work coat."

ya. i had to look up what a chore jacket was and i got tons of workwear brands

i rock "urban lumberjack" ish all the time & i think i look p cute, but i agree its basically overplayed

oh ha! i just took a picture of the last guy in that collage, a few days ago on spring street. same cardigan and boots, without the hat...

Is that a carabiner in his belt loop?!

lol mw, please don't tell me you're surprised?

haha

All the rage w people who want you to know that they used to be bike messengers, before it was lame.

This reminds me of a story my dad told me about visiting NYC in '76. Being a hippyish ranger from Yosemite, he mostly wore jeans, woolen shirts and boots just like a certain segment of the gay population of Manhattan. He was really suprised that there were so many really friendly New Yorkers, given their reputation as surly, until my aunt, who was living there at the time, pointed out they were gay. Then my dad noticed that their boots were all impeccable and some of them ironed (?!) their jeans.

xpost speaking of overplayed style: bike messenger chic

when was it ever not lame?

like this, sheesh

http://blogs.reuters.com/oddly-enough/files/2009/06/bike-messenger-280.jpg

haha. i see the first guy on this page around town all the time

http://www.fixedgearbikesarefuckinggay.com/fixie.html

btw I am wearing black double knee carhartts and a flannel right this very second

fuiud

yes but you live in minnesota, not brooklyn

i was also wearing these
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2607/3840570672_11f4507a1f.jpg

not cool

to the tumblr & blog dudes who post photos of their outfits laid out on the floor: ugh stop why

to the guys who include their FUCKING FIREARMS in these photos: good lord wtf is wrong with u

enough with the italian tailoring already

i mean it must be p cool to be a wealthy neapolitan and the clothes sure are nice but tbh i'll be glad once the menswear set finds a new obsession, kinda sick of looking at one billion blue blazers every day

camouflage, i guess? i don't hate it and i like that designers are looking to prints and patterns but tbh it's getting to be pretty worn down as far as masculine signifiers go

don't forget the whole camouflage-with-gold-embroidered-patterns-on-it thing