Grandmaster Flash "The Message"

Yeah the whole thing is really confusing. "White Lines" is pretty much a Melle Mel solo track though it's usually credited to Flash. Sadly Flash & the Furious Five split way too early, Flash put out a couple of awful records on his own, but then Melle Mel took the "Grandmaster" name, it's all so confusing, I would say just buy a compilation and hope for the best.

This one is good and pretty comprehensive:

http://images.slacker.com/covers/272/337006

1. "Freedom" (Grandmaster Flash & The Furious 5) - 8:18
2. "The Birthday Party" (Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five) - 8:22
3. "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel" (Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five) - 7:10
4. "Showdown" (The Furious Five meets The Sugarhill Gang) - 5:54
5. "It's Nasty (Genius Of Love)" (Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five) - 7:52
6. "Flash to the Beat (Part 1)" (Grand Master Flash) - 4:28
7. "The Message" (Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five featuring Melle Mel & Duke Bootee) - 7:14
8. "Scorpio" (Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five) - 4:57
9. "Message II (Survival)" (Melle Mel & Duke Bootee) - 6:55
10. "New York New York" (Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five) - 7:26
11. "Jesse" (Grandmaster Melle Mel) - 6:12

CD2

1. "White Lines (Don't Do It)" (Grandmaster & Melle Mel) - 7:40
2. "Beat Street" (Grand Master Melle Mel & The Furious Five, with Mr. Ness & Cowboy) - 7:05
3. "Internationally Known" (Grand Master Melle Mel & The Furious Five, with Mr. Ness & Cowboy) - 6:32
4. "We Don't Work For Free" (Grandmaster Melle Mel & The Furious Five) - 5:00
5. "Step Off" (The Furious Five, featuring Cowboy, Melle Mel & Scorpio) - 7:24
6. "Pump Me Up" (Grandmaster Melle Mel & The Furious Five) - 4:52
7. "World War III" (Melle Mel) - 8:20
8. "Sign Of The Times" (Grandmaster Flash) - 6:11
9. "Girls Love The way He Spins" (Grandmaster Flash) - 6:36
10. "Vice (from Miami Vice)" - (Grandmaster Melle Mel) - 5:03
11. "Style (Peter Gunn Theme)" (Extended Remixed Version) (Grandmaster Flash) - 5:03
12. "U Know What Time It Is" (Extended Scratch Version) (Grandmaster Flash) - 3:52 (**)

Only important omission I can think of is "We Rap More Mellos" (released as The Younger Generation in 79) but that was on some other label.

Mellow*

missing melle mel's fast rap style "freestyle"

the sad thing about this era of hip hop is that the *real* thing was never really documented on record...the parties with DJ cutting it up, as all the records relied on studio musicians and backing tracks. bums me out

then again maybe the real actual thing was those nights in the bronx, maybe that could never really be documented on a recording

there's bambaataa's death mix from a school gym, and the (edited) live convention records on disco wax

but like stuff like spoonie g's "love rap" where they substitute live drums for the break is p close prob at least as dope

have you all read "the big payback" by dan charnas yet? i'm only through the first chapter but he covers this era (which i didn't know much about) in a really clear, entertaining way

missing melle mel's fast rap style "freestyle"

― zvookster, Friday, February 11, 2011 8:40 AM Bookmark

Never knew about this joint but this is a dope BDK bite.

heh yeah. i think this tape is p well known http://www.discogs.com/Edan-The-DJ-Fast-Rap/release/245640

masta ace's original letter to the better is another one i like in this style

kool is back >

that's a cool mix thx

while we're derailing, it's yours freestyle, ll kinda showing t la rock is the true father of the late 80s BDK fast rap rhyme density as well as the multi-syllabic lyrically lyrical 90s style.

fuuuuck wow that is amazing, never heard that...man he sounds so young!

My car stereo syncs with my iPod, but the LCD screen can only display the first 8 characters of the artist/song...so Flash always displays as "Grandmas"...always gets a chuckle from me

holy shit at that LL freestyle

deej requests that Duke Bootee be mentioned itt.

RIP Duke Bootee

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/duke-bootee-dead-1115217/

Pretty interesting and somewhat contemporary piece on Bootee in the NY Times in 1984.
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/07/04/arts/the-pop-life-043552.html

RIP. I spoke to him in the 80s sometime for a now out of print article I wrote for Option Magazine. Duke Bootee aka Ed Fletcher had lots of plans and dreams then that did not all quite end up happening, but "The Message" and some of his Sugarhill studio work remains as fitting legacy.

This is the first I've heard of this, but holy shit, Kidd Creole stabbed and killed a homeless man???

Well someone has been watching American Psycho

A DMX drum machine, Duke Bootee on Prophet 5 synthesizer and percussion and Skip Mcdonald on guitar.