bob dylan and the band - the basement tapes / the complete basement tapes

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you know what song from the basement tapes is good? the french girl.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 11 February 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

thrreee silver ringgsss

Trip Maker, Friday, 11 February 2011 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link

sign on the cross is pretty good too. has anyone written about this stuff? /joke

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 11 February 2011 06:59 (thirteen years ago) link

it *is* kind of amazing that they -- (ok, COLUMBIA) are up to this "official bootleg" box set number NINE or something? -- and have *still* not released these tapes in official form.

I can only guess that it is somewhere in Bob's will ... it's like, "ok, 'Bootleg series' 11 should have been '{whatever you call it}', and if I am dead and gone, you have my full release to fully release 'The Complete Basement Tapes' as the next issue in the series"

Stormy Davis, Friday, 11 February 2011 07:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, I guess it's in the same bag as the "Dylan" album, i.e. it's been out in a form already so cannot revise it back into "bootleg" status, official or no.

Mark G, Friday, 11 February 2011 09:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Gene Clark did 'the French girl'. That's good.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 February 2011 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link

french girl is so good, such a cheesy song, but dylan (and clark too) make it seem so intense. "no englisssshhh words for meeee"

tylerw, Friday, 11 February 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

one of my fave basement tapes things is "one man's loss" which is just kinda gibberish, but the chorus is fab
one man's loss always is another man's gain
one man's joy always is another man's pain

tylerw, Friday, 11 February 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

and have *still* not released these tapes in official form.

one problem might be all the covers in the full tapes ... would have to pay lots of licensing rights.

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 13 February 2011 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

does anyone know of a good list of all the released covers of basement tapes songs from before their official (1975?) release.

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 24 February 2011 09:00 (thirteen years ago) link

it *is* kind of amazing that they -- (ok, COLUMBIA) are up to this "official bootleg" box set number NINE or something? -- and have *still* not released these tapes in official form.
Yeah, really. Columbia could just release its own version of the Safety Master and it would be the most written-about, critically acclaimed Bootleg Series entry yet. The original release and subsequent remaster pale in comparison.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 24 February 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

does anyone know of a good list of all the released covers of basement tapes songs from before their official (1975?) release.
i think there's an extensive list of covers in that million dollar bash book that came out a few years ago. not sure if there's one online though.

tylerw, Thursday, 24 February 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

one problem might be all the covers in the full tapes ... would have to pay lots of licensing rights.

There are no "licensing rights" - they'd have to pay the standard mechanical royalty rate to the songwriters, which is the same amount they'd pay to Dylan or Robertson or whomever. So, covers wouldn't cost a single penny extra.

crustaceanrebel, Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

does anyone know of a good list of all the released covers of basement tapes songs from before their official (1975?) release.

asking this Q again, just in case anyone missed it.

by another name (amateurist), Monday, 28 February 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

From the wiki page:

Peter, Paul and Mary, managed by Grossman, had the first hit with a basement composition when their cover of "Too Much of Nothing" reached number 35 on the Billboard chart in late 1967.[47] Ian & Sylvia, also managed by Grossman, recorded "Tears of Rage", "Quinn the Eskimo" and "This Wheel's on Fire".[48] In January 1968, Manfred Mann reached number one on the UK pop chart with their recording of "The Mighty Quinn".[49] In April, "This Wheel's on Fire", recorded by Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger and the Trinity, hit number five on the UK chart.[50] That same month, a version of "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" by The Byrds was issued as a single. Along with "Nothing Was Delivered", it appeared on their country-rock album Sweetheart of the Rodeo, released in August.[51] The Hawks, officially renamed the Band,[a 5] recorded "This Wheel's on Fire", "I Shall Be Released" and "Tears of Rage" for their debut album, Music from Big Pink, released in July 1968. Fairport Convention covered "Million Dollar Bash" on their 1969 album Unhalfbricking.[52]

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

There was also that Coulson, Dean, McGuinness, Flint album "Lo and Behold," which was entirely comprised of covers of unreleased Dylan tunes.

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

digging back into the tree with roots set. oh man, so good. how is this dylan the same dylan of previous years? like he's inventing a different voice for every song.

tylerw, Friday, 6 May 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Here you go, the Safety Tape, download the zip file, unzip, and voila:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DDT8WSLO

― thirdalternative, Sunday, 12 April 2009 12:56 (2 years ago)

I've had "Tree With Roots" for a long time but any additional fidelity would be sweet -- re-up that link if possible.

suspecterrain, Saturday, 7 May 2011 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Just found this:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zmt3bhdnyuz

Enrique, Saturday, 7 May 2011 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

that coulson/dean/mcguinness/flint lp is pretty damn good.

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 28 May 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Burnett and Costello spoke of trying to honor the spirit of the original recordings

...

“This is the exact opposite of ‘The Basement Tapes’: We’re in the best recording studio in the world, and we’re not in a basement.’ ”

ffs

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link

And they're not using tape!

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link

"I just came across some tapes of incomplete Coltrane solos. I'll take it upon myself to honor the spirit of -" FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link

Marcus Mumford, ugh...

A spokesman for Dylan said he has offered no explanation of why he decided to offer the unfinished songs to Burnett to complete. It's hard not to speculate that the decision is at least partially driven by Dylan's experience helping to bring lyrics left unfinished by Hank Williams at his death in 1953 to life by having a variety of rock, pop and country artists set them to music and record them for the 2011 album "The Lost Notebooks of Hank Williams."

Never listened to that one.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link

basement vapes

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link

i never listened to that hank williams thing either! for some reason i thought it had never come out. i will hand in my dylanologist credentials.

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link

this is no big deal, i don't think. it would be super cool if they hung out in a basement and recorded there, though

waterbabies (waterface), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link

I hope Dylan releases the complete basement tapes edition of the bootleg series a week before to fuck these folks over. Would laugh and laugh...

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

barf - http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-bob-dylan-lost-lyrics-new-basement-tapes-20140325,0,1813349.story

― tylerw, Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:57 AM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this will end up in so many landfills right next to "mermaid ave, part 2"

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

this is no big deal, i don't think. it would be super cool if they hung out in a basement and recorded there, though

― waterbabies (waterface), Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:39 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

except it can't be some romantic basement of big pink, it would have to be someone's wood-paneled rec room in long beach.

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link

that would be cool too

waterbabies (waterface), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:00 (ten years ago) link

I repeat:

that coulson/dean/mcguinness/flint lp is pretty damn good.

― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, May 28, 2011 4:49 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link

yeah it is!
anyone checked this out yet?
http://lightintheattic.net/releases/1007-dylans-gospel-aqd
on topic, the versions of "i shall be released" and "mighty quinn" are super good. "mighty quinn" seems like an odd choice for a gospel re-make, but then you listen to it and it's kind of about the second coming. kind of!

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link

i have that from a long-ago download, it's better than you might expect. or that one might expect. i enjoy it.

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link

Merry Clayton and Gloria Jones on it, makes me want to investigate it

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link

i like the first mermaid avenue quite a bit

but this sounds horrible

i can't really handle elvis costello anymore

love you declan though, up through imperial bedroom u were my dogg

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

Merry Clayton and Gloria Jones on it, makes me want to investigate it

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:18 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Oh, this sounds like the album I have a single from..

1968 or thereabouts..

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link

i like the first mermaid avenue quite a bit

it might have been nice if they had hired somebody who could sing

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link

xp yeah it is very enjoyable for the most part -- some of the wordier stuff (chimes of freedom, my back pages) doesn't translate that well, but there are plenty of very nice arrangements/performances.

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link

i like the first mermaid avenue quite a bit
it might have been nice if they had hired somebody who could sing

― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:31 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh i don't know if a better singer would have made it better really, i liked the kind of casual feel to it....the one thing i will say is it doesn't feel like an album weighted down by "importance", which is its triumph imo

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

i should rephrase that: someone who can sing better than jeff tweedy and billy bragg

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link

But its not as if Guthrie was a baptist gospel singer

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:40 (ten years ago) link

yeah i guess to me bragg fit p well

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link

^^^ this

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link

actually bragg was OK, tweedy's affected nasality irritates me. i don't really see the point of jeff tweedy in general.

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link

Every time I think of Elvis Costello now doing things like this, just brings back the painful memory of watching the Harry Smith Project DVD and him trying to do some southern bluegrass ballad and it just sounding miserable and just making me incredibly embarrassed for him.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

yeah as he gets older he has a bigger and bigger problem with knowing this limits, vocally and otherwise.

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link

knowing HIS limits

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link

The Lost Notebooks of Hank Williams is really good; unusually good in terms of reflecting Williams' range as an entertainer, the way he mixed the happy, sad, devout, and joeky stuff into his live radio variey shows. I really like all three volumes of Mermaid Avenue (Vol. 3 is available as a sep. download on Amazon, if you don't want the box, which only adds a making-of DVD). I had no use use for the Vol.1-era Wilco, even or esp. performing these songs live, minus Billy Bragg (and Natalie Merchant)(and Corey Harris). But the Nels Cline-etc line-up can be very fine, and he even shows up on Vol.3. Burnett might do okay, but agree re EC's vocal limitations. Still the songs might come through.

dow, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link


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