Gran Torino starring Clint Eastwood as the angry old man

saying "Unforgiven" deals intelligently with race is very uh waht

"ooh look a black character that no one ever acknowledges is black!"

mini-take:

All in the Family + The Shootist

(with the pluses and minuses implied therein)

"ooh look a black character that no one ever acknowledges is black!

Well, he IS lynched.

All in the Family + The Shootist

So his female lead is a Hepburn/Jean Stapleton hybrid?

well, his wife is dead, so it's more like Archie Bunker's Place if Archie had stayed as verbally hardcore a bigot as he was at the start of AITF.

much nervous audience tittering at the slurs throughout

(Lauren Bacall was the female lead in The Shootist, shame on you Alfred)

This is probably the worst Clint Eastwood film. Surely he gets sent better screenplays than this?

The funny bits were pretty funny. Several big laughs. I watched it alone so was fine with the racist slurs/jokes (I'm white, btw), but it would be interesting to see how audiences react. Nervous tittering sounds about right, Morbs. I'm not sure if the closing song was supposed to be funny, but it was.

This is probably the worst Clint Eastwood film

Directed by Eastwood, I should say. His performance was great.

ha didnt realized this had leaked - luv award season

the leak is not great picture quality, but watchable on a laptop.

This is probably the worst Clint Eastwood film

Worse than Firefox or The Rookie?

I dunno -- the acclaim for this flummoxes me. He spent most of A Perfect World and Million Dollar Baby uttering stuff like "If ya got sumpin' stuck in yer craw, spit it out!" and "I don't train women, girlie!" What makes this one any different?

does he exact his revenge in a satisfying manner - or is it all boohoo like most of his recent movies - this will help me to decide if i am really going to watch it

i dont need anymore ponderous bullshit from u old man - u directed high plains drifter - try to remember

OK, it's the worst I've seen.

I think the difference between previous Eastwood as old-timer performances and this one, is that this one is mostly pretty silly and hammy (which I really enjoyed in this case).

Not possible to answer w/o spoilers jh0

It is not all boo hoo

ok cool

I think it's best described as a comedy written by someone who thought they were writing a drama comedy, but can't write drama for shit.

Yes, that is the best description. I should write reviews.

best Eastwood film: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091187/

xp

isnt that the description for twilight???

gran torino is supposed to be funny in places

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zipperhead

^^^ had to look things like this up three or four times

Not the best Eastwood film, but I did like it - maybe the most American movie I've seen all year (in the gritty Sam Fuller sense). Clint's Dirty Harry/Hank Hill is exasperating, but genuinely affecting at times. Looking at him in this is like looking at Mt. Rushmore.

The tone of this was too 'moralizing after-school special' for me, and its treatment of eastwood's character's racism is a little too ambiguous.
It's good to see hmong actors and hmong culture depicted in a major film - maybe for the first time?

also jhoshea otm abt awards season l3aks

morelike gran borino

― velko, Friday, October 24, 2008 10:20 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

I dunno -- the acclaim for this flummoxes me. He spent most of A Perfect World and Million Dollar Baby uttering stuff like "If ya got sumpin' stuck in yer craw, spit it out!" and "I don't train women, girlie!" What makes this one any different?

Maybe this is the Tell-Tale Signs of movies, everybody raving about outtakes out of habit.

some of eastwoods best scowling in a long time

The more I think about it, the more I like it. Sam Fuller is still the best way to look at it.

I liked that the NYT (Dargis?) pointed out than when he growls, he LITERALLY goes "Grrrr, grrrr."

the actress who played the Hmong girl was delightful btw

he genuinely growls and u cant help but be charmed

otm re sassy sister

the actress who played the Hmong girl was terrible btw

A charming, but grumpy oldster? Fah! I am waiting for Clint to play a prostitute with a heart of gold.

xp: It wasn't great acting but she was mega-personable.

This movie recalls that In & Out joke "And the nominees are ... Clint Eastwood in Coot."

the trailers on TV make it look like it's a live action "kelly" comic

The Archie Bunker stuff is really really broad. But 'charming'? Not so much, fortunately.

The barbershop 'education' scene is a bit WTF comedywise

o great morbs not charmed by eastwood jeff hating on the sister burt saying some shit i dont even understand - fu guys im outta here

I don't think he wanted to play a charming bigot.

o come on the whole part where he has fun at the party yr totally supposed to be all awwww

when he calls them all fish heads?

hes just a grumpy ol guy needs some love - him and the sister quip at each other THEY QUIP

would been sweet had he hit that imo

someone suggested "Gimme a beer, Dragon Lady" as Oscar clip

I have to admit I was appalled, like Walt, that the priest kept turning up. Brian O'Byrne in Muillion Dollar Baby was a better priest for Clint (ie, cursing).

So how is Eastwood's perf any different from Clint The Quint's in White Hunter, Black Heart?

*The Squint

less like John Huston, more like Sam Houston

Sam Elliott, morelike.

The earlier guy hasn't been rattled by death, til the end of WHBH. This guy knows it like a VFW bar buddy.

i reviewed this movie so u will all know how to think abt it THIS MY BLØG

"positive power of racism" theme is kind of a new one tho

the whole movie reminded of the truly terrible hilary swank's family stuff in million dollar baby... just such ungenerous, lazy, self-righteous writing.

I sort of agree and disagree.

i did like the growling!

the way the slutty granddaughter nosing around after the car gets her comeuppance for being a terribly-drawn character in the end is just so gross

yeah this was pretty bad. even the best parts seemed like a cliche we've seen 1000 times before. old guy tutoring boy.. liked the scene with the hairdresser though. lazy ending too. and Eastwood's acting was the low point. (i* hated the growling)

*heh, that looks cool with the bb code. i mean before it appears cursive err.

When a director with Eastwood's past makes a back-to-basics move like Gran Torino, he's reduced to first principles: vigilantism and a creeping case of the cutes.

Can't quite fathom how anyone thought this anything other than hilarious/terrible. Most people I know who saw it all expected something more serious but all just gave in to it and had to laugh.

And then the few moments of bad things really jar because you're all "that doesnt really have any place in a comedy does it?"

his plan at the end was pretty dumb too

i cant wait to see this and judge for thyself, everyone on ilx hates it, everyone i've spoken to irl has loved it.

this should be interesting

it is a completely retarded movie and i enjoyed it

This was so terrible. I can't really comprehend how this was so well received.

haha i thought this was awesome

can't believe clint hasn't discovered how to make movies that please the auteurs of ilx yet, GET A CLUE CLINT

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This was so terrible. I can't really comprehend how this was so well received.

― doom shit (circa1916), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:52 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark

hell yes this movie is awesome. thread is crazy.

main problem was the devilish gang bangers who are dead set on having a kid clearly not cut out to be useful in criminal life, in their gang, up to the point of raping a family member to prove the point, somehow. the whole thing turns on this motivation and it's really stupid.

lol @ this movie, dumb but even dumber to get mad at it imo

what's there to get mad about? it's a piece of shit.

i cant wait to see this and judge for thyself, everyone on ilx hates it, everyone i've spoken to irl has loved it.

this should be interesting

― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, June 8, 2009 3:37 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

This has been my experience with ILX for years. Good flick.

I loved it. People are more likely to write about things they hate.

this movie was so, so bad

@Alba, I think you are right, that's why I can't ever trust customer on line reviews, the Internet brings out everyone's inner crank.

this is on tv. the scene where clint takes the azn kid to the barber to "man him up."

truly terrible film

the acting is pretty bad

one of the worst movies

Still fascinated this turned into a sleeper hit. But, yeah, kinda bad.

the acting is pretty bad

I actually got into a big argument about this with a friend the other night. I thought the two Hmong kids were really wooden and awful, but my friend swore that was "the point", that they were awkward kids. I don't buy it, I just didn't ever feel a genuine emotion out of either of them. The song at the end of the movie was hilarious though.

But on the whole I thought the movie was just okay. Some really awkward scenes, but I thought there were a couple that worked well. Not at all worth the hype, but not as terrible as its ILX reputation might suggest.

Amateur =/= bad.

But the boy in particular was as bad as anything I've seen in a major motion picture.

The scene where he was locked in the basement, banging on the door, was particularly painful.

Junior high-level acting there.

I love this movie. Totally hilarious.

I really dug this btw. Made me think of Kurosawa.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:31 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

truly terrible film

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