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killfile has the benefit of comedy CAN ANYONE HEAR ME killfile paranoia too

ice cr?m, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

ilx would be a total site of free play where the line btw author and utterance would be oblitarated

we would all be each others' socks, it would be so amazing.

goole, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

there should be at least one board where this is possible

ice cr?m, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

imo it's not hard for posters to be zingy without being perpetually annoying and thread-derailing. quietstorm zings are more effective than all caps eringrayslappedbyglennford.jpg

omar little, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

ice cr?m, i hope this doesn't sound weird, but, there are things that i think i could only say, if i were you at the time

goole, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

is it pronounced like "ghoul" or "jewel"

am0n, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

no man thats not weird *frantically clicks suggest ban*

ice cr?m, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

my mind will be blown if he says anything other than "ghoul"

ENBB, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Sb and killfile are not the same thing at all and shouldn't serve the same purpose.

Killfiling is a personal choice -- if you want a certain voice to be gone, you can make it gone in your little world, just accept that some conversations will be missing certain elements, and so on. But using kf to "fix" how you experience ILX as a whole is really...passive. Fine if you are choosing the passive approach to improve your life by removing a really hated poster or two or three, and you don't want them to know/you don't want your choice to affect anyone else's ILX experience. Not so fine if the public atmosphere really IS getting "bad" or "worse" (by whatever definition) in one way or another and you are avoiding doing anything about it.

The efficacy of sb, whether everyone likes it or not, is to the public sphere. Kf cannot do the same job.

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, 7 February 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

goulet

am0n, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.balloons4trade.co.uk/images/Circle_BalloonDrop.gif

CONGRATULATIONS GOOLE ON THE 10,000TH POST ON WHAT THE SB SYSTEM SHOULD REALLY BE LIKE!!!!

― and why?!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:05 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

goole, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

ghoul, btw

goole, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

:)

am0n, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been wanting to make that post for three days, btw, but it was tl for phone typing!!

xp goolie?

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, 7 February 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

honestly don't remember why i picked this name, don't think i like it even! oh well

goole, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

a bold suggestion: imprison all sb'd posters to I LOVE CRICKET: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX for three months

― Favourite Song, Album and Band? Icehouse. (King Boy Pato), Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:47 AM

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am0n, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqBAPcVs5xM

ice cr?m, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Difference between gabbnebb and dom is that Dom was mod banned

I don't think gabnb us actually going to come back btw

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 7 February 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

laurel, SB improves your experience of ILX, but also makes others' experience of ILX less enjoyable. why should the rearrangement of ILX to suit your taste deprive other folks of someone's presence?

I don't want to go all argument by analogy here, but it's like banning certain music or speech from the radio. wouldn't it be great if you could ban glenn beck from the airwaves? yeah, but you could also just change the channel. I'm just not that into silencing ppl I guess. that mindset doesn't compute for me.

I'm not anti-banning, btw, but the threshold seems to be getting pretty low.

a led zep of one (Edward III), Monday, 7 February 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Think it's still 51

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

a led zep of one (Edward III), Monday, 7 February 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I wd favour raising it to 54 just so I can make the same crappy Sammy Hagar joke once every couple of months.

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

But 51 has kind of entered the Kaballah now with the whole Antimony thing so

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

raise it to 77 imo

ice cr?m, Monday, 7 February 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

How long does a SB last? Is it 6 months? (Someone upthread suggested that you might collect 51 sbs over the course of six moths) How long are you banned after you get 51? If you're banned do you return with a blank slate?

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Monday, 7 February 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

a blank slate, a potty mouth and a heart full of vengeance

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's 30 days, with an increasing number of days with each subsequent SB... 30/60/90

though the length of the ban is subject to mod discretion and I think has been bent before?

a led zep of one (Edward III), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

http://rhymeculture.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/c_group_50-people.jpg

kkvgz, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

SBs are 30 days. I think from here on in, we'll be opening with repeat SBs garnering 60 with the proviso that may be lengthened/shortened/permabanned based on case-by-case complications.

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.hartfordmag.com/images/stories/50People_0910.jpg

kkvgz, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Michael, to your first question, six months is correct.

Groovy Goulet (pixel farmer), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

so to clarify, deej and whiney are both out for 30 this go round.
so it is written so shall it be done
and now the dancing girls

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.kansasdisciples.org/images/QA%2050%20people.jpg

kkvgz, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

but the SB system is a social experiment in the taming of ILX of all negative expressions and behavior, I get it

this is such exaggerated bullshit, dude. i personally feel like i've had ample freedom to be curmudgeonly and antagonistic and argumentative, and have explored that freedom to my hearts' content without ever getting an especially high SB count. if there are people whose appetites for posting negativity is larger if not boundless, giving them a timeout probably isn't going to 'tame' them anyway, but it'll at least give other people a break from them.

some dude, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

can you unblock my work and home ip addresses?

am0n, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I think there should be a SB thread that the banned alone can post to - a kind of ILX purgatory.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Voyage of the Banned

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

it's called THE REST OF THE INTERNET

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Banned à part

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

haha forks otm

some dude, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually from what I can see this would only overcomplicate the system it would have the added problem of moving the goalposts every day - the number of unique visitors fluctuates quite a lot and no one would ever know where they stood or how close they were to a ban.

― Matt DC, Monday, February 7, 2011 6:53 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

Then take average daily counts for a week and generate a number. Point is if sb is meant to be the majority opinion then you might want to figure out how many the majority actually is.

51 bans = 1.5 percent of registered users (bnw), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

also i just do not get the appeal of killfile, especially as a replacement for SBs. just because i don't love a particular person's posts doesn't mean i necessarily want to look at the whole board through a filter that removes their posts and probably makes threads they participate in harder to follow or enjoy. and what if your issue with someone is that they like to say mean things to or about you? killfiling them just makes you ignorant of what they're saying and less able to do anything about it.

some dude, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

if people think 51 is just too low a number, why get complicated about it, just change it to 101. there are some people that will hit that goal easy anyway.

some dude, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Suggest Ban Permalink
I think there should be a SB thread that the banned alone can post to - a kind of ILX purgatory.

― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Monday, February 7, 2011 1:16 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Think that's what Whiney was going for here, before he got bored.
http://twitter.com/WhineyArea51#

kkvgz, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Point is if sb is meant to be the majority opinion then you might want to figure out how many the majority actually is.

I am pretty sure that it was not intended to be a majority opinion.

kkvgz, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

the sad truth is that the vast vast majority of ilx posters don't make much of an impression and don't differentiate themselves in my mind at all, good or bad. this is probably true of everyone and probably true of my writing to everyone else.

i've changed my mind on sb's in the past year (used to think was ok, now don't) but i can't find the post where i talked about it. it doesn't really matter, does it?

goole, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't like it either, but I s/b like a demon because it's there and I can't help myself.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 7 February 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link


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