post here if you favor replacing our Suggest Ban system with a Killfile system

huh you might be right about gabbneb - if so thats probably dumb and should be reversed because dude was never a real problem iirc. so hey gabbneb if you are reading this come home all is forgiven (until yer next sb)

― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:23 AM

"never a real problem" how is gabbneb allowed back but dom isn't, at the very least can we get some consistency w/r/t all this

reinstate jw & chakee

reinstate gw & chenee

replace current mods w/el tomboto and strongohulkington

^^

so a problem poster is one whose presence makes it hard if not impossible for other people to enjoy/use ILX

not sure how whiney or deej were making it impossible to use ILX, and if somebody's making it hard for you to enjoy ILX, don't read their posts

sure whiney and deej could be irritating at times but ILX is the only board I've ever posted on where people get banned for being irritating, bannings are usually reserved for spamming/racist/threatening behavior and the like

but the SB system is a social experiment in the taming of ILX of all negative expressions and behavior, I get it

I've posted before about how the system will just move the goalposts for what is considered irritating behavior for oversensitive people, and it seems like it's happening... whiney's posts on Is this the most adorable commercial ever? were edgy but, in general, pretty innocuous, it's not like he launched a huge personal attack against jon, engaged in namecalling, etc

I guess the plan is to ban all controversial posters, make this place a utopia of kind words and opinions, seems like a milquetoast approach, hope everybody feels safe and relaxed now that big bad whiney/deej are gone

hopefully they will return tamed, having learned their lesson, or maybe they won't return at all, good riddens to bad rubbish tally ho and all that

otm

having a "hide this poster" link is the best solution

it's not punitive, it doesn't deprive anyone who enjoys the posting style of controversial folks of their presence, but protects the feelings of those who don't want to be exposed

but keith thinks SB is the best thing he ever developed, and enough of the mods have long been in a non-negotiable stance regarding SB so

i went looking for the last thing i said on the last sb clusterfuck and i couldn't find it

but i did find this:

i liked gabbneb!

― goole, Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:03 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

great point, you have to admit

it would be great if we could have BOTH "hide this poster" and SB

maybe there would finally be a little silence on this issue

gabbneb had turned into a total creep at the end. whiney and deej were many things but never creepy. annoying, sure. but they never posted in a manner that made me feel like they were internetting from my basement crawlspace.

i think we should all be able to edit each others posts

killfile has the benefit of comedy CAN ANYONE HEAR ME killfile paranoia too

ilx would be a total site of free play where the line btw author and utterance would be oblitarated

we would all be each others' socks, it would be so amazing.

there should be at least one board where this is possible

imo it's not hard for posters to be zingy without being perpetually annoying and thread-derailing. quietstorm zings are more effective than all caps eringrayslappedbyglennford.jpg

http://www.neb-one.gc.ca/clf-nsi/rpblctn/spchsndprsnttn/2007/gcnfrnc/mg/mg09-eng.jpg

ice cr?m, i hope this doesn't sound weird, but, there are things that i think i could only say, if i were you at the time

is it pronounced like "ghoul" or "jewel"

no man thats not weird *frantically clicks suggest ban*

my mind will be blown if he says anything other than "ghoul"

Sb and killfile are not the same thing at all and shouldn't serve the same purpose.

Killfiling is a personal choice -- if you want a certain voice to be gone, you can make it gone in your little world, just accept that some conversations will be missing certain elements, and so on. But using kf to "fix" how you experience ILX as a whole is really...passive. Fine if you are choosing the passive approach to improve your life by removing a really hated poster or two or three, and you don't want them to know/you don't want your choice to affect anyone else's ILX experience. Not so fine if the public atmosphere really IS getting "bad" or "worse" (by whatever definition) in one way or another and you are avoiding doing anything about it.

The efficacy of sb, whether everyone likes it or not, is to the public sphere. Kf cannot do the same job.

goulet

http://www.balloons4trade.co.uk/images/Circle_BalloonDrop.gif

CONGRATULATIONS GOOLE ON THE 10,000TH POST ON WHAT THE SB SYSTEM SHOULD REALLY BE LIKE!!!!

― and why?!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:05 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

ghoul, btw

:)

I've been wanting to make that post for three days, btw, but it was tl for phone typing!!

xp goolie?

honestly don't remember why i picked this name, don't think i like it even! oh well

a bold suggestion: imprison all sb'd posters to I LOVE CRICKET: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX for three months

― Favourite Song, Album and Band? Icehouse. (King Boy Pato), Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:47 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqBAPcVs5xM

http://www.fatally-yours.com/wp-content/uploads/ghoulies.jpg

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Difference between gabbnebb and dom is that Dom was mod banned

I don't think gabnb us actually going to come back btw

laurel, SB improves your experience of ILX, but also makes others' experience of ILX less enjoyable. why should the rearrangement of ILX to suit your taste deprive other folks of someone's presence?

I don't want to go all argument by analogy here, but it's like banning certain music or speech from the radio. wouldn't it be great if you could ban glenn beck from the airwaves? yeah, but you could also just change the channel. I'm just not that into silencing ppl I guess. that mindset doesn't compute for me.

I'm not anti-banning, btw, but the threshold seems to be getting pretty low.

Think it's still 51

lol

I wd favour raising it to 54 just so I can make the same crappy Sammy Hagar joke once every couple of months.

But 51 has kind of entered the Kaballah now with the whole Antimony thing so

raise it to 77 imo

How long does a SB last? Is it 6 months? (Someone upthread suggested that you might collect 51 sbs over the course of six moths) How long are you banned after you get 51? If you're banned do you return with a blank slate?

a blank slate, a potty mouth and a heart full of vengeance

I think it's 30 days, with an increasing number of days with each subsequent SB... 30/60/90

though the length of the ban is subject to mod discretion and I think has been bent before?

http://rhymeculture.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/c_group_50-people.jpg

SBs are 30 days. I think from here on in, we'll be opening with repeat SBs garnering 60 with the proviso that may be lengthened/shortened/permabanned based on case-by-case complications.

http://www.hartfordmag.com/images/stories/50People_0910.jpg

Michael, to your first question, six months is correct.

so to clarify, deej and whiney are both out for 30 this go round.
so it is written so shall it be done
and now the dancing girls

http://www.kansasdisciples.org/images/QA%2050%20people.jpg

but the SB system is a social experiment in the taming of ILX of all negative expressions and behavior, I get it

this is such exaggerated bullshit, dude. i personally feel like i've had ample freedom to be curmudgeonly and antagonistic and argumentative, and have explored that freedom to my hearts' content without ever getting an especially high SB count. if there are people whose appetites for posting negativity is larger if not boundless, giving them a timeout probably isn't going to 'tame' them anyway, but it'll at least give other people a break from them.

can you unblock my work and home ip addresses?