post here if you favor replacing our Suggest Ban system with a Killfile system

can't wait to welcome back Poopy G. Stinkgarten

actual lol

Change 51 to a dynamic number based on over 50% of daily unique visitors. Should take only 5 minutes.

Actually from what I can see this would only overcomplicate the system it would have the added problem of moving the goalposts every day - the number of unique visitors fluctuates quite a lot and no one would ever know where they stood or how close they were to a ban.

Can you give us an idea on the range of daily unique visitors? I'm sure that this has been brought up before, but I can't remember what it is.

It sort of assumes that everyone reads everything too. I don't know how visits to the different boards break down, but if someone was being a cock on eg ILM, maybe less than 50% of posters would encounter them on a regular basis, and some of those might want them banned. xp

and *only* some of those might want them banned (might be a large proportion though)

I don't know how visits to the different boards break down, but if someone was being a cock on eg ILM, maybe less than 50% of posters would encounter them on a regular basis

Yeah, like, would you factor in the De Subjectivisten and Aeon Flux Top Level people?

Well, just having a look at the Aeon Flux board, that probably wouldn't sway things too much.

i can at least understand people who want to do away with the SB system entirely, but people who keep suggesting these increasingly intricate Rube Goldberg modifications to the system as if that's what will magically make the whole thing totally fine and uncontroversial are just ridiculous imo.

otm

Every time the sb button gets clicked, a truck nutz jpeg should be inserted into the post in question.

WhineyArea51 Whiney G. Weingarten
Let @WizardIsHungry post again, you assholes.

kkvgz is making me sad b/c I mis-read his username.

was not trying to do that

so a problem poster is one whose presence makes it hard if not impossible for other people to enjoy/use ILX
temporary suspensions restore the function of the board for those users
some users will miss the problem poster, but so far nobody has actually left the boards because of an asshole absence (many people have left because of assholes' presences)
therefore the SB system works as well as could be hoped?

playing devil's advocate you could argue there's a smeed's law effect to encourage people to just be even more boring than ever but it's long been the case that ILX is not really all about being a site for good ol' noyz transgressive fun, so residential speed limits are in effect, deal

xp no harm, mang. Just reminds me of WizardIsHungry, is all.

thing is, the cool funny enjoyable posters who've been banned never really got banned for the stuff they did that was cool or funny or enjoyable, unless they were just taking that stuff to some obstinate extreme. so unless the thing you love about someone is how insanely incorrigible and unreasonable they are, the whole "you guys are making this place lame by penalizing awesome people" argument is just kinda dumb, and even then it's still a little dumb.

like i consider both whiney and deej bros and will probably have civil and friendly off-ilx interactions w/ them while they're banned, but they'd both become committed to posting in ways that only made them happy or fulfilled their own compulsions and had no interest in toning it down for anyone else's benefit, so getting a timeout seems like the only real option there.

I'm trying to think of a funny celebrity analogy better than paul reubens and can't

some dude is the voice of reason here.

unfortunately we can't remember who

I have never and will never sb anyone. If anyone on ILX annoys me I walk away. I wouldn't use the killfile option but it seems far less harsh than the SB.

I think this is very reasonable. Also, if a suggest ban flags a specific post, and some mods (or at least JJJusten) already tell the people who are close to 51 what posts of theirs have been SBed, why not make it so that each poster (but no one else) can see a list of their SBed posts in their profile? This would help them see what kind of behaviour is causing the SBs, if they are blind to it (as Deejs seems to have been), and (in the best case) modify it. Plus there'd be no need for mods to send special emails to people who are close to 51 anymore.

http://i.imgur.com/UhK1e.jpg

is that real? what is that?

An uphill climb from the bottom.

The symbolism was apparent to me! I just want to know if I can go visit that.

apparently it's the mt huashan hiking trail in china -

http://www.ssqq.com/ARCHIVE/vinlin27d.htm

Get to the top and an old beardy dude will teach you some serious kick ass martial arts.

I have never and will never sb anyone. If anyone on ILX annoys me I walk away. I wouldn't use the killfile option but it seems far less harsh than the SB.

― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Monday, February 7, 2011 11:08 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

huh you might be right about gabbneb - if so thats probably dumb and should be reversed because dude was never a real problem iirc. so hey gabbneb if you are reading this come home all is forgiven (until yer next sb)

― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:23 AM

"never a real problem" how is gabbneb allowed back but dom isn't, at the very least can we get some consistency w/r/t all this

reinstate jw & chakee

reinstate gw & chenee

replace current mods w/el tomboto and strongohulkington

^^

so a problem poster is one whose presence makes it hard if not impossible for other people to enjoy/use ILX

not sure how whiney or deej were making it impossible to use ILX, and if somebody's making it hard for you to enjoy ILX, don't read their posts

sure whiney and deej could be irritating at times but ILX is the only board I've ever posted on where people get banned for being irritating, bannings are usually reserved for spamming/racist/threatening behavior and the like

but the SB system is a social experiment in the taming of ILX of all negative expressions and behavior, I get it

I've posted before about how the system will just move the goalposts for what is considered irritating behavior for oversensitive people, and it seems like it's happening... whiney's posts on Is this the most adorable commercial ever? were edgy but, in general, pretty innocuous, it's not like he launched a huge personal attack against jon, engaged in namecalling, etc

I guess the plan is to ban all controversial posters, make this place a utopia of kind words and opinions, seems like a milquetoast approach, hope everybody feels safe and relaxed now that big bad whiney/deej are gone

hopefully they will return tamed, having learned their lesson, or maybe they won't return at all, good riddens to bad rubbish tally ho and all that

otm

having a "hide this poster" link is the best solution

it's not punitive, it doesn't deprive anyone who enjoys the posting style of controversial folks of their presence, but protects the feelings of those who don't want to be exposed

but keith thinks SB is the best thing he ever developed, and enough of the mods have long been in a non-negotiable stance regarding SB so

i went looking for the last thing i said on the last sb clusterfuck and i couldn't find it

but i did find this:

i liked gabbneb!

― goole, Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:03 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

great point, you have to admit

it would be great if we could have BOTH "hide this poster" and SB

maybe there would finally be a little silence on this issue

gabbneb had turned into a total creep at the end. whiney and deej were many things but never creepy. annoying, sure. but they never posted in a manner that made me feel like they were internetting from my basement crawlspace.

i think we should all be able to edit each others posts

killfile has the benefit of comedy CAN ANYONE HEAR ME killfile paranoia too

ilx would be a total site of free play where the line btw author and utterance would be oblitarated

we would all be each others' socks, it would be so amazing.

there should be at least one board where this is possible

imo it's not hard for posters to be zingy without being perpetually annoying and thread-derailing. quietstorm zings are more effective than all caps eringrayslappedbyglennford.jpg

http://www.neb-one.gc.ca/clf-nsi/rpblctn/spchsndprsnttn/2007/gcnfrnc/mg/mg09-eng.jpg

ice cr?m, i hope this doesn't sound weird, but, there are things that i think i could only say, if i were you at the time

is it pronounced like "ghoul" or "jewel"

no man thats not weird *frantically clicks suggest ban*

my mind will be blown if he says anything other than "ghoul"