post here if you favor replacing our Suggest Ban system with a Killfile system

ugh can you imagine an ILX where everyone was "nice" 100% of the time it would be the worst

turn that frown upside down, friend!!!!

there's a lot of unclaimed territory between 'nice' and 'whiney g'

whiney was just A PRODUCT OF HIS ENVIRONMENT, man. look at what he was before ILX and what he is now.

ultimately we as a people are responsible :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWLvuLRoVus

I'm positive people shouldn't always be nice #KIP

# Location banned
# Bio clearly the 77 autogoon keepin' it negative dickhole zing posse should run ILX

why is a hyperlink allowing you to "killfile" a poster less gross than one to "suggest ban"

suggest murder

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http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/533869/garnett_biting_gif_medium.gif

l-r: whiney, ilx

Suggestban is the War on Drugs to Killfile's Pass on Grass.

fwiw it's no big deal to get killfile up on Safari 5

these threads have pretty much reduced the art of writing IMP threads to a huge unreadable mass.

people just gravitate to the "get rid of SB threads" that they want to read about and don't find other threads, because they're staring at a webpage with 2000 words of text on it.

what sb'd do is, you know, little "critical punches." little "smacks in the face."

hahaha

what if the SB system was like Yellow Card in which every time you got SBed, a little yellow tag showed up at the top of your screen, along with a personal message.

― r0b /via/ orl (San Te), Sunday, February 6, 2011 1:43 PM (1 hour ago)

yeah i know it's A LOT OF WORK and everything but can whoever is in charge work on improving the SB experience in ways like this if this godawful system is never going to be taken away

or they can't because it's a waste of time to cater to the ten fucking people who blab on about it incessantly.

the thing where the notifications take up your screen or whatever is kinda cheesy but yeah, real-timeish notifications of when and for what posts for which you've been SB'd would be an improvement

Total SBs received and issued should be on a users profile page. And every time you issue or receive 25 or so, you should get a little symbol after your username after each post... like football helmet reward decals. In general, we need a points systems so we know who the real winners are.

a post's background colors should get increasingly redder the more SBs that post earns.

looool

blacker imo, so eventually it will vanish

now we're cookin'

better option:

instead of colors, add brick JPGs from the bottom to the top of the post until it's entirely covered.

the SB of amontillado

why is a hyperlink allowing you to "killfile" a poster less gross than one to "suggest ban"

because it allows you to dealwithit on yr own w/o affecting others

everytime you get SBed, someone close to you is abducted and flogged

with great posting comes great responsibility

The mods' arguments itt are on the whole otm with the single glaring exception being that the sb system is not necessary.

In this particular case it sounds like whiney got to 51 and the mods said 'oh yeah, he's shitting up the place, temp ban', i.e. the whole sb culture didn't actually need to exist.

that's what happens every time, thanks for your input

Oh come on, if we'd banned Whiney outright exactly the same people would have been complaining.

yea then it'd be "why didn't we have a say"

no it'd still be "people who ban people for being annoying are douchebags"

honest question, because i can't remember: were bans/talk of bans/fear of bans/300+ threads on bans ever this big a part of ILX culture before nu-code era?

― gr8080, Sunday, 6 February 2011 18:48 (1 hour ago)

Can't remember if you were here during the C-man/Momus days, but yes they were, very much so.

Oh come on, if we'd banned Whiney outright exactly the same people would have been complaining.

― Matt DC, Monday, 7 February 2011 07:18 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

...minus the usual sb cluskterfuck.

uh no there would have been a clusterfuck

AA i didn't mean to sound like such a dick btw, sorry

Banning posters for causing clusterfucks causes clusterfucks.

honest question, because i can't remember: were bans/talk of bans/fear of bans/300+ threads on bans ever this big a part of ILX culture before nu-code era?

― gr8080, Sunday, 6 February 2011 18:48 (1 hour ago)

Can't remember if you were here during the C-man/Momus days, but yes they were, very much so.

― Pashmina, Sunday, February 6, 2011 8:28 PM (5 minutes ago)

also 40 fucking "ban _________" threads every week

AA i didn't mean to sound like such a dick btw, sorry

np

my suggestion:

keep the suggest ban button. when a poster or posters (as in this case) starts racking a bunch up in a short period of time, mods invite them to a private mod board or thread, where the mods can let the poster know that they are annoying a lot of people, and point to particular posts that have gotten flagged. the poster can engage with the mods to tell his/her side of the story, and ultimately mods can give the poster a warning that getting more SBs in the near future for the same behavior will result in a temp ban, like a week or something.

this sort of returns some agency to being a mod, allows for a little "due process" to the whole ordeal, and actually should give the poster some direct feedback

i think this would have worked well with whiney/deej tbh

"annoying" might be the wrong word but i think you get me

my suggestion:

keep the suggest ban button. when a poster or posters (as in this case) starts racking a bunch up in a short period of time, mods invite them to a private mod board or thread, where the mods can whack them and leave the body lying there in the tall grass

keep the suggest ban button. when a poster or posters (as in this case) starts racking a bunch up in a short period of time, mods invite them to a private mod board or thread, where the mods can let the poster know that they are annoying a lot of people, and point to particular posts that have gotten flagged. the poster can engage with the mods to tell his/her side of the story, and ultimately mods can give the poster a warning that getting more SBs in the near future for the same behavior will result in a temp ban, like a week or something.

This is pretty much what we now have already. Forks emailed both Deej and Whiney when they passed the 40 mark, which is something that's going to happen as a matter of course now. It was along the lines of "this is a courtesy email to let you know you've now got 40 SBs, nothing to worry about yet but you may want to modify your posting style over the next few weeks". Neither of them did.

Forks emailed both Deej and Whiney when they passed the 40 mark, which is something that's going to happen as a matter of course now. It was along the lines of "this is a courtesy email to let you know you've now got 40 SBs, nothing to worry about yet but you may want to modify your posting style over the next few weeks". Neither of them did.
Orrite, that's sound, I'm 100% behind it.

gr80's (buried) suggestion that the sb link be moved to the user profile page needs more consideration btw.

unco at posting today

sounds reasonable enough

Only thing I can see w that is: suggest ban button next to a post in effect flags that post as being problematic. SB report page shows a list of user's posts that have received SBs, which is often a p solid indication of what exactly it is that's fucking off ppl about whoever. (this is v useful when a spammer or racist dickhead shows up) Having SB button on profile page wd just result in poster x being sb'ed by these posters for....some unidentified reason. I think?

Thanks, Pash.

(sincere response btw (I'm on a tram))

update: I'm over it