post here if you favor replacing our Suggest Ban system with a Killfile system

can the sugbanned speak?

i would argue that a 90 day ban for low-level dickishness is crazy

yeah this is a lol internet message board not a democratic judicial system, but no one should have posting privs revoked unless they're like outright abusive/ obviously spamming in a way that isnt lol/ posting racist shit/ posting other ppl's personal info

30 day ban is for low level dickishness, 90 day is for low level dickishness repeated to the point of cluelessness

anyway pretty sure whiney is just gonna dig in his heels more. it'll be pretty much whiney perm'd or the removal of the SB system whenever this comes to a head.

Replace SB button with link to DealWithIt.gif

This isn't day care.

its insane either way

unban whiney

give the butthurt a killfile

everyone else dealwithit.gif

lol xposts

also the fuck is up w/ polls being disabled on IMP?

deal with it

i must polltest

goddammit the SB system was designed to remove rude permanently confrontational nob-ends, not Whiney

i see what you did there

he took himself seriously

for reals tho SB was introduced as an answer to "why do mods get to decide who gets banned and we the ppl dont"

the problem is, as nice a gesture it was on behalf of stet and keith to work to code it, its flawed from the outset. 51 is as arbitrary a number as etc etc etc

How come boring people no one will ever miss never get 51'd? ~think about it~

everytime you click "suggest ban" a milquetoast poster gets its wings

max got his wings!!

http://www.britposters.com/images/the%20blue%20max%20320x240.jpg

you should at least have to visit a user's profile to SB them

its fucking gross that its next to EVERY SINGLE POST

I agree with this 100% BUT a killfile only blocks the user, not all the responses to that user. So you'd still get all of the clusterfuck but none of the context.

seems like the ppl who get all up in arms abt sb are the real killjoys. i mean this was a p good punchline u have to admit.

the ppl who want one of the funniest posters on ilx banned are the real killjoys tbh

yeah but Dom's not coming back so hey

hmm idk i am still laughing what are u doing markers? hmm?

like, u are killing my joy right now

sorry bro ;_;

*killing* my *joy*

i guess we know who the real killjoy is

maybe people should only be able to have their sb against a poster count once, so it they are instrumental in a banning any future sb they give them doesn't count. this would help thwart unprovoked new sbs being dished out as soon as someone returns from a ban.

Jesus. I just wanted to say hello. For the love of God.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:48 (4 years ago)

I agree with this 100% BUT a killfile only blocks the user, not all the responses to that user. So you'd still get all of the clusterfuck but none of the context.

― sexy Santa cosplay (Autumn Almanac), Friday, February 4, 2011 3:09 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

right i get this.

would still rather live in an ILX where ppl have to deal w/ that vs one where that trumps my right to post

maybe people should only be able to have their sb against a poster count once, so it they are instrumental in a banning any future sb they give them doesn't count. this would help thwart unprovoked new sbs being dished out as soon as someone returns from a ban.

a modest proposal but the time for modest proposals is behind us

damn why do i always get awesome ideas late on fridays when no one is posting

urban deeznuts

unban everyone

^^^

http://stylerumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/hair-musical.jpg

so for every SB'ed poster, we get a new thread about abolishing SB.

that's like getting a bottle of cyanide with every box of Cheerios

if you consider awesome posters being banned a box of cheerios

WHICH THEY CERTAINLY ARE NOT MY FRIEND

uh, which their being banned certainly is not, rather

it's night and i'm not making sense, so later

no shit, you called whiney one of the funniest posters

hey plax i know you're still kind of new here but he is

markers, thank you for offering your snaxpert opinion.

whiney is funny but it's like even though deej should just know when to let it go, there is something pretty annoying about somebody who knows he's going to provoke a clusterfuck response that shits up a thread continuing to do so just for his own amusement.

admittedly it was funny at first but it got to the point where I didn't wanna open up rap threads anymore.

http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/msladee06/Shaking-My-Head.gif

whiney is nowhere near as funny or as big a board asshole as ethan (whom i sb'd, i'll admit) was.

yet we carry on, however poorer for their absence.

http://threadbombing.com/data/media/2/G.smh1.gif

whiney is funny but it's like even though deej should just know when to let it go, there is something pretty annoying about somebody who knows he's going to provoke a clusterfuck response that shits up a thread continuing to do so just for his own amusement.

admittedly it was funny at first but it got to the point where I didn't wanna open up rap threads anymore.

― i pl0p bombs like hiroshima (San Te), Friday, February 4, 2011 4:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i wont argue this.

i still think its stupid to ban someone for so long for behaving that way. grow a pair and engage them or just learn to ignore it.

i don't really like the SB system either fwiw, i'm used to message board mods determining my fate on other boards

oh we have plenty of that here too

hush

...

Yeah even I came round to Ethan eventually and he was directly spiteful and nasty to me a couple times - but he's sharp and funny and tbh I feel bad I told him I hoped he'd die once, lol.

Dom otoh I never saw any redeeming humnour in and I too am baffled at those who defend him, tho maybe I missed threads/borads where it happened. He purposedfully needled me on multiple occasions though, and for what I dont know - I never ever engaged with him, but he was a straaight-up nasty asshole to me anyway.

He is the only person I have SB'ed ever.

Bring back Kate.

ethan was a real bastard on these boards but in the best possible sense, he was an A+ poster. i liked dom too but then again i don't know about any of this other stuff.

Kate'll come back, she always does.

dom was never anything but reasonably friendly to me; never understood the hullaballoo, but that was back when the inner workings of ilx were opaque to me
ethan sort of established the ilx hardman schtick but he knew his shit

i found dom pretty off-putting at first but after i started to get his sense of humor more i really enjoyed his posts; he usually seemed to be mean about british stuff i don't care about and often in ways that i didn't really understand, so i'll take people's word for it about that.

Dom is a fucking prince and this board is immeasurably poorer for his absence.

idk the way i feel abt when ppl defend dom, is like

i mean when he wrote that borderline rape fantasy abt some blogger chick on a blog entirely devoted to this creepy endeavour and all these guys here were like "ok that blog is creepy, but dom's one was still funny"

also kindof feel like the loose cannon hyperbole of bile is a p easy writing style, all you really require is a kind of base misanthrope and it writes itself. its not partic funny it just seems really losery and sad?

Dom brought a lot of genuinely funny threads/posts on the tawdry horror of modern culture & politics. Also sometimes he said really nasty stuff about people who didn't deserve it. Also sometimes about people who did. I'm not gonna defend his frequent trips over the line into plain bad taste but if ever a poster was picking up SBs for what people thought he'd said, or based on his persona, then Dom was that poster.

my dream ilx is one where no one ever leaves or ever gets banned

so basically u want to trap us in ur neverending party

basically.

me, you, gabbnebb, ethan, tombot (hi tom) hstencil, dom, kate, killy, heave ho, nude spock, nickalicious, roger adultry, s1ocki, JW, ball labs, alex in NYC, squirrel police

everyone

What happened to Alex?

he posts every once in a while.

I'm not gonna defend his frequent trips over the line into plain bad taste but if ever a poster was picking up SBs for what people thought he'd said, or based on his persona, then Dom was that poster

Hahaha no I'm pretty sure it was what he actually said rather than what "people thought he'd said". It's not like he didn't give haters plenty of ammunition.

The central issue here when talking about people like Dom and Ethan is how much of their shit people are prepared to tolerate or overlook for the sake of the good/interesting/funny stuff, and in all the defenders' views that threshold is pretty high.

Otoh you can't blame people for having a much lower threshold, and "deal with it and stop being so easily butthurt" is not really a sustainable way to keep a message board running. In any case it was getting hugely unpleasant and more than a little creepy around the height of meta-bitching circa 2008. The problem with complete laissez-faire where no one ever gets banned is that while it's great in theory but in reality it becomes a place where everyone can be as much of a cunt to other people as they want and that'd kill the inflow of new posters pretty quickly. It's about striking a balance really.

Personally I find it a much more enjoyable place to post now - maybe less funny on occasion, but it's still very funny and hey, we'll get new funny posters. For all the suggest ban clusterfucks, there are fewer clusterfucks about other things. And for every one poster who's been unwilling to or incapable of moderating their own posting style to avoid the SB there are two or three who have.

FWIW Ethan as explained can come back whenever he wants, maybe he just likes his life more without ILX in it, I dunno. I still prefer his posts to all the sub-Trifes.

i pretty much enjoyed ethan 95% of the time and often wish i could set him on some of the indie losers on ilm these days, like an attack dog.

dom was NOT REMOTELY FUNNY - as plax says it was just really mundane auto-misanthrope humour. and his awful "debating" "tactic" of pretending that his opponent was saying something completely different and then just running with that for entire threads ughhhh. you can't really separate out the asshole aspects of his character from the rest because his entire schtick was about being a malicious little cunt. "oh but dom was always nice to me" is the lamest defence tho - like all wannabe bullies he obviously didn't target everyone, and i find it hard to believe that any regular poster could've failed to notice how creepy, bullying and just plain poisonous he could be to his targets.

Miss the hell out of Ethan, and I didn't appreciate him enough when he was here. Dom...I sometimes wonder about his childhood.

This thread has moved into general meta about people who aren't around any more so I'm going to lock it.