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Slip inside my sleepingbag

buzza, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:43 (ten years ago) link

FREE WHINEY

markers, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:44 (ten years ago) link

i have sb'd fewer than five times during its existence and did not particularly come into contact with whiney, let alone sb him.

but dude has got to 51 three times. he was being a dick, he knew ppl thought he was being a dick, and he continued to be a dick. i don't support a truly perm ban for him, but both he and us will survive nicely during however long his timeout is

mookieproof, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:44 (ten years ago) link

who will rep kayo dot now

-_-

acoleuthic, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:46 (ten years ago) link

the problem is, its not 51 sb's off one huge banworthy dick move. its 3 casual SB's at a time spread over 17 boards.

no one should get posting privileges revoked for 60 days because of some innocent hardmanning and/or opinions4u bullshit

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:48 (ten years ago) link

abolish ban culture

we deserve better

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:49 (ten years ago) link

i agree people shd be allowed to post what they want

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:49 (ten years ago) link

the standard rhetoric is that the SB system is designed to curb low-level dickishness, and if whiney isn't the def of low-level dickishness on ILX then I don't know what

dayo, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:49 (ten years ago) link

90 days tho right?

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:50 (ten years ago) link

Gramey G. Gramsci

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:51 (ten years ago) link

can the sugbanned speak?

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:52 (ten years ago) link

i would argue that a 90 day ban for low-level dickishness is crazy

yeah this is a lol internet message board not a democratic judicial system, but no one should have posting privs revoked unless they're like outright abusive/ obviously spamming in a way that isnt lol/ posting racist shit/ posting other ppl's personal info

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:54 (ten years ago) link

30 day ban is for low level dickishness, 90 day is for low level dickishness repeated to the point of cluelessness

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:56 (ten years ago) link

anyway pretty sure whiney is just gonna dig in his heels more. it'll be pretty much whiney perm'd or the removal of the SB system whenever this comes to a head.

dayo, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:57 (ten years ago) link

Replace SB button with link to DealWithIt.gif

This isn't day care.

Kerm, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:57 (ten years ago) link

its insane either way

unban whiney

give the butthurt a killfile

everyone else dealwithit.gif

lol xposts

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:57 (ten years ago) link

also the fuck is up w/ polls being disabled on IMP?

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:58 (ten years ago) link

deal with it

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 00:59 (ten years ago) link

i must polltest

acoleuthic, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:00 (ten years ago) link

goddammit the SB system was designed to remove rude permanently confrontational nob-ends, not Whiney

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:01 (ten years ago) link

i see what you did there

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:01 (ten years ago) link

he took himself seriously

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:01 (ten years ago) link

for reals tho SB was introduced as an answer to "why do mods get to decide who gets banned and we the ppl dont"

the problem is, as nice a gesture it was on behalf of stet and keith to work to code it, its flawed from the outset. 51 is as arbitrary a number as etc etc etc

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:02 (ten years ago) link

How come boring people no one will ever miss never get 51'd? ~think about it~

Kerm, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:03 (ten years ago) link

everytime you click "suggest ban" a milquetoast poster gets its wings

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:04 (ten years ago) link

max got his wings!!

dayo, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:05 (ten years ago) link

you should at least have to visit a user's profile to SB them

its fucking gross that its next to EVERY SINGLE POST

I agree with this 100% BUT a killfile only blocks the user, not all the responses to that user. So you'd still get all of the clusterfuck but none of the context.

sexy Santa cosplay (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:09 (ten years ago) link

seems like the ppl who get all up in arms abt sb are the real killjoys. i mean this was a p good punchline u have to admit.

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:09 (ten years ago) link

the ppl who want one of the funniest posters on ilx banned are the real killjoys tbh

markers, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:10 (ten years ago) link

yeah but Dom's not coming back so hey

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:11 (ten years ago) link

hmm idk i am still laughing what are u doing markers? hmm?

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:12 (ten years ago) link

like, u are killing my joy right now

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:12 (ten years ago) link

sorry bro ;_;

markers, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:13 (ten years ago) link

*killing* my *joy*

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:13 (ten years ago) link

i guess we know who the real killjoy is

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:13 (ten years ago) link

maybe people should only be able to have their sb against a poster count once, so it they are instrumental in a banning any future sb they give them doesn't count. this would help thwart unprovoked new sbs being dished out as soon as someone returns from a ban.

estela, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:16 (ten years ago) link

Jesus. I just wanted to say hello. For the love of God.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 30 July 2006 17:48 (4 years ago)

acoleuthic, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:17 (ten years ago) link

I agree with this 100% BUT a killfile only blocks the user, not all the responses to that user. So you'd still get all of the clusterfuck but none of the context.

― sexy Santa cosplay (Autumn Almanac), Friday, February 4, 2011 3:09 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

right i get this.

would still rather live in an ILX where ppl have to deal w/ that vs one where that trumps my right to post

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:33 (ten years ago) link

maybe people should only be able to have their sb against a poster count once, so it they are instrumental in a banning any future sb they give them doesn't count. this would help thwart unprovoked new sbs being dished out as soon as someone returns from a ban.

a modest proposal but the time for modest proposals is behind us

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:33 (ten years ago) link

damn why do i always get awesome ideas late on fridays when no one is posting

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:34 (ten years ago) link

urban deeznuts

buzza, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:42 (ten years ago) link

unban everyone

gr8080, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:47 (ten years ago) link

^^^

Kerm, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:52 (ten years ago) link

so for every SB'ed poster, we get a new thread about abolishing SB.

that's like getting a bottle of cyanide with every box of Cheerios

i pl0p bombs like hiroshima (San Te), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:56 (ten years ago) link

if you consider awesome posters being banned a box of cheerios

markers, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:57 (ten years ago) link

WHICH THEY CERTAINLY ARE NOT MY FRIEND

markers, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:58 (ten years ago) link

uh, which their being banned certainly is not, rather

markers, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:58 (ten years ago) link

it's night and i'm not making sense, so later

markers, Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:59 (ten years ago) link

the worst ethan ever did was suggest fans of undie rap were herbs and front his rap knowledge .....

door to door legume salesman (San Te), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 00:49 (ten years ago) link

dude could be a complete cunt when he wanted, tbf, but he was a good poster

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 00:55 (ten years ago) link

i didn't particularly like him either but shrug

door to door legume salesman (San Te), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 00:59 (ten years ago) link

I lurked during that time and ethan was a++ hilar, dom was on some kind of abuser level tho

dom was a++ hilar AND a horrible sociopath

basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 01:09 (ten years ago) link

dom has no place in a conversation about sb's, as has been made clear it was a mode/site issue. ethan left voluntarily after a totally run-of-the-mill temp ban for image bombing. neither are relevant to this discussion imo.

what I got from this thread (admittedly skimmed over the last week)

1. if we can make the SB button part of the user profile while still retaining the memory of which post the SB is coming from, some people think that would be better. this would mean that there wouldn't be an SB button next to every post.

2. some people think the 51'd should be allowed to post only on I LOVE CRICKET: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX; this seems like a good idea to me.

3. Pashmina OTM.

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 01:14 (ten years ago) link

dom was a dick and I never liked him

door to door legume salesman (San Te), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 01:14 (ten years ago) link

too lazy to google it, but i called dom 'don' consistently for like 3+ years to see if i could get his goat. goat got got, dom got gone

they call him (remy bean), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 01:25 (ten years ago) link

dom was a++ hilar AND a horrible sociopath

never understood people who thought like this

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 02:20 (ten years ago) link

sometimes, he made very funny jokes

sometimes, he said savage and bitter things designed to hurt people, and generally waged a campaign to drive away people who didn't think like him

-

the community is far better off without his influence, but that doesn't mean old posts poking fun at failed britpoppers or grime acts can't occasionally draw a snicker. life is a tapestry!

basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 03:05 (ten years ago) link

I'm tattooing my balls with a stark black NUMBER 51 TO PROTEST THESE FASCIST TIMES

door to door legume salesman (San Te), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 03:54 (ten years ago) link

hush

zvookster, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 03:56 (ten years ago) link

...

door to door legume salesman (San Te), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 04:17 (ten years ago) link

Yeah even I came round to Ethan eventually and he was directly spiteful and nasty to me a couple times - but he's sharp and funny and tbh I feel bad I told him I hoped he'd die once, lol.

Dom otoh I never saw any redeeming humnour in and I too am baffled at those who defend him, tho maybe I missed threads/borads where it happened. He purposedfully needled me on multiple occasions though, and for what I dont know - I never ever engaged with him, but he was a straaight-up nasty asshole to me anyway.

He is the only person I have SB'ed ever.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 04:30 (ten years ago) link

Bring back Kate.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 04:34 (ten years ago) link

ethan was a real bastard on these boards but in the best possible sense, he was an A+ poster. i liked dom too but then again i don't know about any of this other stuff.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 04:42 (ten years ago) link

Kate'll come back, she always does.

basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 04:46 (ten years ago) link

dom was never anything but reasonably friendly to me; never understood the hullaballoo, but that was back when the inner workings of ilx were opaque to me
ethan sort of established the ilx hardman schtick but he knew his shit

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 04:47 (ten years ago) link

i found dom pretty off-putting at first but after i started to get his sense of humor more i really enjoyed his posts; he usually seemed to be mean about british stuff i don't care about and often in ways that i didn't really understand, so i'll take people's word for it about that.

some dude, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 04:50 (ten years ago) link

Dom is a fucking prince and this board is immeasurably poorer for his absence.

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 08:32 (ten years ago) link

idk the way i feel abt when ppl defend dom, is like

i mean when he wrote that borderline rape fantasy abt some blogger chick on a blog entirely devoted to this creepy endeavour and all these guys here were like "ok that blog is creepy, but dom's one was still funny"

also kindof feel like the loose cannon hyperbole of bile is a p easy writing style, all you really require is a kind of base misanthrope and it writes itself. its not partic funny it just seems really losery and sad?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 08:38 (ten years ago) link

Dom brought a lot of genuinely funny threads/posts on the tawdry horror of modern culture & politics. Also sometimes he said really nasty stuff about people who didn't deserve it. Also sometimes about people who did. I'm not gonna defend his frequent trips over the line into plain bad taste but if ever a poster was picking up SBs for what people thought he'd said, or based on his persona, then Dom was that poster.

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 08:44 (ten years ago) link

my dream ilx is one where no one ever leaves or ever gets banned

gr8080, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 09:33 (ten years ago) link

so basically u want to trap us in ur neverending party

Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 09:56 (ten years ago) link

basically.

me, you, gabbnebb, ethan, tombot (hi tom) hstencil, dom, kate, killy, heave ho, nude spock, nickalicious, roger adultry, s1ocki, JW, ball labs, alex in NYC, squirrel police

everyone

gr8080, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 10:07 (ten years ago) link

What happened to Alex?

kkvgz, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 10:08 (ten years ago) link

he posts every once in a while.

gr8080, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 10:10 (ten years ago) link

I'm not gonna defend his frequent trips over the line into plain bad taste but if ever a poster was picking up SBs for what people thought he'd said, or based on his persona, then Dom was that poster

Hahaha no I'm pretty sure it was what he actually said rather than what "people thought he'd said". It's not like he didn't give haters plenty of ammunition.

The central issue here when talking about people like Dom and Ethan is how much of their shit people are prepared to tolerate or overlook for the sake of the good/interesting/funny stuff, and in all the defenders' views that threshold is pretty high.

Otoh you can't blame people for having a much lower threshold, and "deal with it and stop being so easily butthurt" is not really a sustainable way to keep a message board running. In any case it was getting hugely unpleasant and more than a little creepy around the height of meta-bitching circa 2008. The problem with complete laissez-faire where no one ever gets banned is that while it's great in theory but in reality it becomes a place where everyone can be as much of a cunt to other people as they want and that'd kill the inflow of new posters pretty quickly. It's about striking a balance really.

Personally I find it a much more enjoyable place to post now - maybe less funny on occasion, but it's still very funny and hey, we'll get new funny posters. For all the suggest ban clusterfucks, there are fewer clusterfucks about other things. And for every one poster who's been unwilling to or incapable of moderating their own posting style to avoid the SB there are two or three who have.

FWIW Ethan as explained can come back whenever he wants, maybe he just likes his life more without ILX in it, I dunno. I still prefer his posts to all the sub-Trifes.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 10:21 (ten years ago) link

i pretty much enjoyed ethan 95% of the time and often wish i could set him on some of the indie losers on ilm these days, like an attack dog.

dom was NOT REMOTELY FUNNY - as plax says it was just really mundane auto-misanthrope humour. and his awful "debating" "tactic" of pretending that his opponent was saying something completely different and then just running with that for entire threads ughhhh. you can't really separate out the asshole aspects of his character from the rest because his entire schtick was about being a malicious little cunt. "oh but dom was always nice to me" is the lamest defence tho - like all wannabe bullies he obviously didn't target everyone, and i find it hard to believe that any regular poster could've failed to notice how creepy, bullying and just plain poisonous he could be to his targets.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 10:53 (ten years ago) link

Miss the hell out of Ethan, and I didn't appreciate him enough when he was here. Dom...I sometimes wonder about his childhood.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 12:49 (ten years ago) link

This thread has moved into general meta about people who aren't around any more so I'm going to lock it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 12:51 (ten years ago) link


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