A Paler Shade of White---Sasha Frere-Jones Podcast and New Yorker article Criticizing Indie Rock for Failing to Incorporate African-American Influences

Ha, this is the thread where Geir told me to shut the fuck up!

Oh brilliance.

Really, one of my proudest ILM moments.

were u talking greasy about genesis?

Iirc, Ethan had been quoting things from a white supremacist message board and then Geir posted something that looked like a quote from a white supremacist message board and then I asked Geir if it was a quote from a white supremacist message board and then he told me to shut the fuck up.

Iirc, Ethan had been quoting things from a white supremacist message board

haha aw man...the good ol' daze :)

you keep up with ethan? i hope that dude is good, miss him on the board still

Not really, he occasionally pops up on fb, but that's it. Seems like he's doing alright tho.

I am totally psyched for this to be a book, honestly no way it can disappoint

lol good attitude

I am totally psyched for this to be a book, honestly no way it can disappoint

are your expectations really that low

http://www.sashafrerejones.com/2009/11/best_of_2010_1.html

ethan never responded to my fb request ;_;

also smh, that article is less relevant than ever now

Arcade Fire made his best-of list for 2010, so how will that fit into his premise (whatever it is at this point).

2007:There’s no point in faulting Arcade Fire for what it doesn’t do; what’s missing from the band’s musical DNA is missing from dozens of other popular and accomplished rock bands’ as well—most of them less entertaining than Arcade Fire

]I asked Geir if it was a quote from a white supremacist message board and then he told me to shut the fuck up.
Wow, I didn't catch that the first time around. Can't believe Geir actually told someone to STFU. He's always so unnervingly polite.

nah the "you're a nazi/racist" accusations REALLY set him off.

the curious case of the racist who didn't want to be thought of as racist

ILM has always been preoccupied with this topic. It is what ILM was based on, the entire "black" music is superior to "white" music is the entire foundament of what ILM was originally meant to be.

― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:36 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark

board description?

So I just noticed on the New Yorker's contributors page this week that SF-J's book about "identity and popular music" is now being referred to as a memoir? (Has that always been the case?)

It's actually a viral marketing campaign for Ui albums, I hear

Ha, this is the thread where Geir told me to shut the fuck up!

― The Reverend, Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:57 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really, one of my proudest ILM moments.

― The Reverend, Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:58 PM Bookmark

So I just noticed on the New Yorker's contributors page this week that SF-J's book about "identity and popular music" is now being referred to as a memoir? (Has that always been the case?)

― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:55 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And now his Chicago Humanities Festival bio says that he's "currently working on a two-volume memoir about New York and the arts." So this probably has nothing to do with "A Paler Shade of White" anymore, right?

The only thing more pallid and flaccid than a U/I fan is a U/I member. This guy is the worst.

He was born Alexander Roger Wallace Jones on January 31, 1967, in Manhattan, the elder child of Elizabeth Frere and Robin C. Jones. His younger brother, Tobias Frere-Jones, is co-founder of the typeface design company Hoefler & Frere-Jones, and is on the faculty of the Yale School of Art. Tobias and Alexander both legally changed their surnames from Jones to Frere-Jones in 1981.

He is a grandson of Alexander Stuart Frere, the former chairman of the board of William Heinemann Ltd, the British publishing house, and a great-grandson of the novelist Edgar Wallace, who wrote many popular pulp novels, though he is best known for writing the story for the film King Kong. (Merian C. Cooper wrote the screenplay.)

In 1983, Frere-Jones played Capulet in a St. Ann's production of "Romeo and Juliet" directed by Nancy Fales Garrett. Mia Sara played Juliet. In 1984, Frere-Jones's "We Three Kings" was one of ten plays chosen for the Young Playwrights Festival. The original reading starred John Pankow and Željko Ivanek. The final production at the Public Theater starred Adam Klugman, Jack Klugman's son. His follow-up play, "Jump Down Turn Around," was performed at St. Ann's and starred Frere-Jones and actor Josh Hamilton.

Oh yeah young capulet of Manhattan scionage, tell me what's funkay!

ok so why does he go by sasha exactly?

"Let me educate you on race"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Sasha_Frere-Jones_by_Piera_Gelardi.jpg/640px-Sasha_Frere-Jones_by_Piera_Gelardi.jpg

^This picture is notable as it is the first time in his life SFJ ever visited a receiving dock, although it was on a Sunday, after a scrumptious brunch in the LES! #workingclass

"A Perfect Day for I Zimbra"

In 1983, Frere-Jones played Capulet in a St. Ann's production of "Romeo and Juliet" directed by Nancy Fales Garrett. Mia Sara played Juliet. In 1984, Frere-Jones's "We Three Kings" was one of ten plays chosen for the Young Playwrights Festival. The original reading starred John Pankow and Željko Ivanek. The final production at the Public Theater starred Adam Klugman, Jack Klugman's son. His follow-up play, "Jump Down Turn Around," was performed at St. Ann's and starred Frere-Jones and actor Josh Hamilton.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, October 27, 2014 10:43 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

Figures that this guy went to St Ann's

He could pretty much write his own ticket and the life he chose is explaining his friends' music to his parents' friends.

Can't really hate him though.

and this was the guy who traced Timbaland + Magoo's origins to "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker."

so he kissed mia sara possibly several times

right on

ok so why does he go by sasha exactly?

Sasha is the diminutive of Alexander and Alexandra.

Yeah I had an Alex/Sasha friend growing up. Parents were actually Russian though, not sure about this one.

i've been an Alexander my whole life and i didn't know that. using the first 1 or 2 syllables of the name seemed like the natural diminutive.

put this in the solange thread, but thought that might be the wrong place for it. some excerpts from a new book on solange and indie rock, whiteness, race, etc.

https://gal-dem.com/why-solange-matters-book-extract-stephanie-phillips-indie-microaggressions