BEHOLD THE GRIMACE: The Frank Miller Poll

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ALSO: Odd references to big two heroes throughout - Storm, that green clad lady with one arm sleeveless who used to pop up in X-MEN (I think?), Captain Marvel. That's always bugged me.

SENTIMENTALIZE WAR - THIS IS YOUR GOD (R Baez), Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Also that weirdly rambling answer about his feelings about Superman as a character.

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

Sigh. I really loved this guy's work once upon a time.

Nhex, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

Same. Probably would've voted for E:A or DKR.

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

Ronin is the correct answer

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link

i haven't read miller in years but will always look at any book he draws.

fit and working again, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

I'd say Holy Terror has special significance, though I doubt anyone would have voted for it.

Mike Dixn, Sunday, 15 June 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link

I wonder if I voted in this? Probably would've gone for Year 1.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 15 June 2014 18:03 (nine years ago) link

I recently reread both Dark Knights and Year One, and Born Again for the first time. Also bought a used Ronin tpb - I read that as it came out and then gave up on comics for my teenage years before the final issue came out - haven't cracked it open yet.
Of those I would have voted for DK1. I really like his artwork at that period. In DK2, he's just finessing it.

Mike Dixn, Sunday, 15 June 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link

Jack Kirby was originally Jacob Kurtzberg, Stan Lee was Stanley Zeiber, and Bob Kane (who created Batman), his real given name was Eli Katz.

It's Stanley Leiber, and Bob Kane's real given name was Robert Kahn - Eli Katz was Gil Kane's real name.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 15 June 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link

I can't help but think it would be a different world today if he'd been called Stan Zee.

Mike Dixn, Sunday, 15 June 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

Born Again, for me.

Every post you make is dripping with failure (stevie), Sunday, 15 June 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

I really like his artwork at that period. In DK2, he's just finessing it

First time anyone's ever used the word "finesse" to describe the DK2 art ^

rage against martin sheen (sic), Monday, 16 June 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link

Born Again is p good but so much of that is down to Mazzuchelli imo. DK2 is fun in a silly way, which makes it preferable to po-faced DK1.

Οὖτις, Monday, 16 June 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

The part in DK2 where Batman is cheering on hyper violence in the service of vengeance is always o_O and kind of liberating at he same time

mh, Monday, 16 June 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Saw a story yesterday that Ben Wheatley and Tom Hiddleston want to do Miller/Darrow's Hard Boiled. I hope that one never gets out of development hell.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link

That'd be impossible to do justice too at less than an NC-17 rating.

But they could do a live action Big Guy & Rusty.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

Reading through some of Miller's comics again, I lean that Ronin was as far out as he went. It was pretty strong to merge together two totally disparate comics influences in mixing Lonewolf & Cub with Moebius in such a story. The thing that caught with me on the last read is how well that Ronin fits into the 80s cyberpunk science fiction that was also going on.

earlnash, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 01:02 (seven years ago) link

hard boiled is the best example of batshit crazy violence and darrow's ultra-detailed style and it'd be such a waste as a movie unless it somehow had crazy detailed sets and some sort of visual gimmick that hasn't been done before
the actual story is deliciously thin and dissolves in art and the moments of "aw, shucks" dialogue

mh 😏, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 01:48 (seven years ago) link

Agree with Earlnash, Ronin shows that Miller had the potential in him to develop cool sci-fi ideas into innovative graphic stories, which is why it's such a shame he later lost himself, at first, into noir pastiche macho bullshit, and, later, into Bat-shit insanity. Shades of his this potential can still be seen in Martha Washington, and the bits in Dark Knight Strikes Back that show us what happened to the old members of the Justice League, but Ronin is no doubt the most fully realised sci-fi comic he ever did.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 10:02 (seven years ago) link


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