Radiohead - In Rainbows

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The money is a way of showing some appreciation of the band's work.
That being said, I'd rather download it for free and then pay for it afterwards if I liked it. I suppose they haven't a system in place for that. Having a "donate" button separate from the download-process would probably result in less money, as the way it is now it's easy for people to throw in a buck or two just as a gesture.
Oh well, free or not, I haven't enough interest in Radiohead to give this a listen.

Øystein, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't understand.

I just mean they've fixed an elevated price on the thing they actually intend to make their money on, they're not giving anyone the "choice" about that. Which of course is fine and totally their perogative to charge whatever they like for what they've produced. I think the "choosing" whether to pay or not for the download is a red herring in terms of their business model. The free download is part of the business model, a promotional tool for the discbox and, more generally, for the Radiohead "brand" which will generate money through merchandise, concert tickets etc.

I don't think Radiohead are all about money, but they're obviously trying to make what they do a commercial proposition and they're trying this new business model which has free downloads built into it as part of the model. For that reason I see no particular reason to pay for the download.

Anyway, God knows why I'm going on and on about this, let's just hope the album is good...

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder what percentage of people will pay c. a tenner for this, or whatever the standard CD price is these days. I'm tempted to pay a pound, purely to say I bought it but without going overboard.

In any case any money Radiohead DO lose if this goes tits-up is likely to be recouped by a fucking massive tour anyway, isn't it?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link

A poll on what you are paying is here Radiohead - In Rainbows : What Are You Paying?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link

but touring is traditionally the way bands make money anyway, isn't it? how is this different?

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Presumably less need to feel obligated to pose next to record execs with gold/platinum awards that they paid for out of their advances.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

how much is a pack of cigarettes in the UK in pounds? Or like going to McDonalds?

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Happy Meal = £1.99

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Just typing that made me feel slightly nauseous.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Ciggies are over a fiver a packet now I think.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

So I paid halfway between a Happy Meal and a packet of B & H. That makes me feel so much better.

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

ok so that make sense the box isn't that expensive for UK people then...it's more like paying $40 USD, too bad they didn't adjust for exchange rates a bit...

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

While we wait, I've started a little something.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

zelda did you pay anything

gman, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm starting to get so excited about this album and I know that's just not rational. I didn't like their last one.

I'm dead intrigued that they've picked up the ball with that song "Reckoner" again, I thought they'd left that one in the dust long ago, quite mysteriously.

Bimble, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Yo, is it true what I heard that the Radioheads are gonna release a tribute album to Rainbow, and if you get the special 100 quid discobox it comes with a pot of gold?! I hope they cover "Since You Been Gone", that's all. Ronnie James Dio rules!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Timely as ever.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link

they are painting the whole world as in rainbows...

Mark G, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Tuomas, it's much better than that: if you order the free mp3s there's a field where you can decide how much money they're going to send you. They're very generous, they say "it's up to you, really, it's up to you"

StanM, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

But I don't want any money the Radioheads have touched with their plucked gopher hands... Ronnie James Dio rules!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't worry, you can fill in 0.00 - they'll still send you 45 cents, but you don't have to accept them.

StanM, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

45 cents of what?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

45 cents, the 50 Cent tribute rappers.

StanM, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Ned, I like your piece. Not living in the US at that point, I hadn't realized how singlehandedly "Creep" introduced them to an American audience.

I had a cassette of Pablo Honey, and loved "Anyone Can Play Guitar," but found the rest of it, well, I'm not sure: I think I had difficulty placing it (as a 19 year old) within either shoegaze (my love at the time) or grunge (most of which I didn't like), so I gave up. I think I lumped them in with something like Ash (which came out in 94 I think), and assumed they'd be similarly important.

paulhw, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Ned, I like your piece.

Thanks -- yeah, it was VERY singlehanded. As you say, Pablo Honey is a bit of a there/not there album, but one thing that struck me on the relisten was that it was extremely well-produced. Usually everyone goes on about that for the following albums instead.

Second part up later today. Pretty much just keep checking back in.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone want to put money as to when we'll actually hear this record? As opposed to repeatedly getting the same error message when the Radiohead site immediately falls over after being hit with the force equivalent to 1000 Glastonbury Ticket Sales.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

They'll probably roll out emails over a 24-hour period, just to take some of the burden off the server. That's my guess anyway.

Cosmo Vitelli, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Part two of my project is up.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 October 2007 02:42 (sixteen years ago) link

They'll probably roll out emails over a 24-hour period, just to take some of the burden off the server. That's my guess anyway.

But how would they decide the order in which to send... oh. I knew I should have donated something. :-/

Vinnie, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Part three of my project is up.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2007 01:17 (sixteen years ago) link

the section starting with "I hate OK Computer." is completely otm

ciderpress, Friday, 5 October 2007 01:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Damn, Ned!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 5 October 2007 01:56 (sixteen years ago) link

(For those wondering, read the whole section indicated and you'll see what I mean.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2007 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Ned, you just made my evening with your piece. I wasn't really around for any of that myself, but I really enjoyed hearing your take on it all.

jonathan - stl, Friday, 5 October 2007 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks! This whole exercise has been interesting...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2007 03:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Thom's hair looks like Rod Stewart!

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 5 October 2007 03:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm really enjoying these pieces too, Ned. It's pretty amazing how well you've captured the time that all this happened, both general reception to the band and your personal anecdotes. i can barely remember what i did last week much less stuff ten years ago, so yeah, wonderful stuff.

had fun with the accompanying youtube clips too - that performance of "Paranoid Android" on Jools Holland was blistering.

Roz, Friday, 5 October 2007 04:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks much, again. :-)

The clips were sort of a last minute idea, a 'wait a minute, duh' thing. My selections are kinda at random but at the same time I'm trying to find notable performances, or at least some unusual ones.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2007 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link

lol: http://guitar.blogfeedsworld.com/?p=2494

I enjoyed reading those entries, it certainly puts things in perspective (since I was probably teething then).

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 5 October 2007 04:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Gotta love those guitar enthusiasts. Anyway, you kids today with your hula hoops and your iPods and your...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2007 04:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i was just noticing going through those clips, while the rest of the band seems to have gone through a bunch of different looks (especially Thom), the younger Greenwood appears not to have changed his hairstyle nor his wardrobe, or indeed aged a day, since 1993.

Roz, Friday, 5 October 2007 04:29 (sixteen years ago) link

http://home.att.ne.jp/wood/greenwood/archive/old/image/b-day.JPG

gman, Friday, 5 October 2007 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link

the younger Greenwood appears not to have changed his hairstyle nor his wardrobe, or indeed aged a day, since 1993.

Yep, pretty much.

This is from *last year*:
http://pics.livejournal.com/radioreverie/pic/0001qa1w.jpg

Melissa W, Friday, 5 October 2007 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Rest of the band is his own portrait of Dorian Grey.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2007 05:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I always felt that Kid A was Radiohead's pinnacle (thus far). Not only my favorite, it's the album where they clarified themselves and earned my eternal respect (and probably adoration).

With that, the next column in Ned's series is the one I'm anticipating the most. It's kind of old man Raggett to serve these appetizers before the 10th.

Cosmo Vitelli, Friday, 5 October 2007 06:31 (sixteen years ago) link

"OLD...MAN...RAGGETT..."

http://www.marcnorton.us/media/DIR_73405/73516.jpg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2007 06:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Part four is up.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 October 2007 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link

ditto cosmo vitelli, kid a is such vivid music

bstep, Saturday, 6 October 2007 04:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Listening again to it today made me realize how wrong a lot of people have been about that album, including myself. I had remembered it as this restrained calm, rather foolishly.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 October 2007 04:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Kid A was the first album that I remember mp3s wrongly informing perceptions of the whole. A random track like "Treefingers" could be your first (and only) foray into Radiohead's new music. I remember reading from people in forums at the time, who came for Karma Police redux and thought they were swindled into Music For Airports instead.

As for the chatter about Amnesiac being a "return to form" (take that, Kid A!), that notion had been so cemented in Truth by the time the band posted a stream on their website that I was intensely confused on first listen, getting through each track and thinking, "This is pretty cool, but what the fuck?"

Cosmo Vitelli, Saturday, 6 October 2007 04:59 (sixteen years ago) link


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