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"have you ever said a bad word about anything in your life? "

no, never.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Live Dubstep Radio Mix from Bristol today !

Radio Venn
http://www.vennfestival.com/radio/index.htm

copy / paste this link into your audio software such as winamp

http://live1.radiovague.com:8000/venn.ogg


today:
12.10pm Skulldisco Soundsystem
Feel it in your bones as Appleblim opens a portal to the world of Dubstep

until 2.pm

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 3 June 2006 08:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Tim Finney said
"If Burial was being held up as particularly futurist or progressive, well, that would definitely be a step too far, but I don't think people like Reynolds/K-Punk etc. are actually doing this (in fact Reynolds noted on his blog that Burial's music was hardly surprising). "

to quote Reynolds exactly:
"* well Burial i guess is unexpected... but in a way that's kinda context-dependent."

I look forward to a Finney post not mean spiritedly tinted through 2step spectacles.

Brian Best (ukb), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

sum up skull disco in a sentence for me.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Friday, 9 June 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

"I look forward to a Finney post not mean spiritedly tinted through 2step spectacles. "

Have I really upset you so much Brian? I can't seem to please anyone on this thread.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 10 June 2006 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link

good to finally hear some of this stuff out Meckle night was LOUD as fuck at Kapital holy shit I cherish my freq. filter earplugs lately! :O

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 11 June 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i tried to google "autonomic for the people" to learn more about tectonic/skull disco and instead i got

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renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

seemed sort of fitting for discussion about dubstep.

ironic that people who spent the last several years moaning about techstep (dissensus folks) are now lining up to heap accolades on half-speed techstep.

if dubstep is the most exciting music of the moment (which it's not, it just can't be), does that make "ni ten ichi ryu" the greatest record of the 90s?

in the new issue of wax poetics, four tet says "everyone goes on about autechre and aphex, but i think photek ... [was] more ambitious than anything else going on; they were on a whole other level. [ni ten ichi ryu] is off the scale. what i love about it is not only was it trying to be the most innovative thing ever, it also tried to rock a club at the same time"

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

and yeah i'm beating a dead horse deader and deader but i heard there's big tracks out there right now called "hidden agenda" and "source direct"?? is that true??

it seems to cement reynolds' now 10-year-old prediction that "hardcore continuum" was destined to become a nostalgia industry, like dub reggae and garage psych.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

anybody mentioned moving ninja? 12 free mps (and not much else) available from their website. and a downloadable mix here: http://www.garagepressure.com/streaming_audio.htm

the new Sacred Symbols Of Mu compilation has new(?) tracks by vex'd, pinch, boxcutter and someone new to me but possibly my favourite track, distance. (along with 20 other tracks spanning the planet mu label's output. cheap enough that it doesn't matter that you don't like 50% of it!)

koogy wonderland (koogs), Friday, 23 June 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Oooooooh.

EXCLUSIVE: The Roots of Dubstep tracklist
Ammunition + Blackdown present... The Roots of Dubstep [Tempa?@CD]

1. Steve Gurley "Hotboys (dub)" [Allstars]
2. El-B "Express" [Ghost]
3. El-B ft. Juiceman "Buck + Bury [original mix]" [unreleased]
4. Roxy "Breakbeat Science" [Bison]
5. Phuturistix "551 Blues" [Locked On]
6. Horsepower "Gorgon Sound" [Tempa]
7. Horsepower "Classic Deluxe" [Tempa]
8. Benny Ill v DJ Hatcha "Highland Spring" [Tempa]
9. High Planes Drifter (aka Benny Ill) v Goldspot "Sholay" [Tempa]
10. Menta "Snake Charmer" [Road]
11. Artwork "Red" [Big Apple]
12. Benga v Skream "The Judgement" [Big Apple]
13. DJ Abstract "Touch" [Tempa]
14. Digital Mystikz "Pathwayz" [Big Apple]

http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_blackdownsoundboy_arc
hive.html#115081203524840322

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

track ID please!!!! from the (fucking awesome) Plastician set here:

it's the tune that comes in around 23:39, overlaid w/ a female vocal saying "oh, I get a rush..."

sounds a big like benga to me (what do i know), but judging from the setlist published at the link above, it must be geenneus, terror danjah, spyro, imperial, jammer...? no idea.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 29 June 2006 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.southern.net/southern/label/SRD/newreleases.html

for release on 17/07/06:
dubstep allstars vol 4

koogy wonderland (koogs), Thursday, 6 July 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Loefah is better than drugs.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 17 July 2006 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

He IS drugs...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Dubstep Allstars Vol 4 really out tomorrow?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Caved in to hype and bought the Burial album tonight. The last time I did this was with M.I.A., the time before that Dizzee Rascal. You'd think I'd learn. Oh, well. I like Witchman, I like the second Tricky album, maybe I'll like this.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Skream is playing up near my manor on the 29th. St. Mungo's High fi, who have provided a lovely local dancehall night for the last 5 or 6 years are supplying the soundsystem. Apparently, according to the guy that gave me the flyer, double what they usually bring to their nights. I won't know whether to shit or go blind, and I won't care either way.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Take earplugs. Pretty sure your bowels will be ok, avoid beans by day just in case.

I'm not amazed by the Burial album so far either, though it's o-kaaay, Nothing smacking me in the face with brilliance like Dizzee's singles or "wtf, is this it?"-ed me like M.I.A.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG the BURIAL album turned out to be SO SO SO BAD.

"hauntology" = sounds like ENIGMA

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

seriously if this burial album is the sound of a suburban london hauntological masterpiece does that make "mezzanine" the first great album of the 21st century???

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Vahid do you not like the first track or "You Hurt Me" or "Broken Home" even?

I guess I like Mezzanine though.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i like "mezzanine" a lot!!

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the problem then?

If you just mean the hype is a ridiculism taken to new levels, then yeah I understand.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah the dudes at dissensus (esp the pale ones w/ skinny arms and fancy blogs about dubstep) are full-time ridiculists

the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Burial is pretty shite. I really don't see why he's garnered the heavy hype. In fact, I'm kind of completely confused as to how someone I rank so lowly seems to have been railroaded by a certain set as the apotheosis of this shit when to me he is a bore. Ho and indeed hum.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I imagine the similarities to dark emotive trip hop (Tricky, Mezzanine, The Private Press) might actually be quite startling to people who were never really into that stuff in the first place. A friend of mine who is into Burial was shocked when I compared the album to DJ Shadow b/c (I think) she'd always dismissed Shadow as boring mood muzak.

In truth, both Shadow and Burial are mood muzak, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, and I like the most overblown pop moments of the Burial album for largely the same reasons that I like the most overblown pop moments of The Private Press.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I loved Shadow as a youngster. Entroducing was the first electronic/indie album I probably ever listened to (I was 12 so fuck off). Burial I don't get the same vibe off of, I can't see him as today's skinny punks' gateway drug.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

You know like it's not easier, and it's not better. While Shadow managed to be both populist and fantastic. Burial is probably even harder to get in to than most dubstep. Skream has far more of a sense for pop (relatively).

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link

You can hate me now.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the Burial album (it works well as a full length and Tricky/Massive Attack comparisons are pretty apt, but I like that stuff too) but it's not obv not amazing (I think the Benga record is probably better actually.) But then again I didn't realize anyone actually thought this record was that amazing though. General consensus as far as I can tell has been "SOMEONE FINALLY RELEASES A DUBSTEP FULL-LENGTH AND ITS NOT HORSEPOWER PRODUCTIONS AND IT'S PRETTY GOOD" and well they did and it is.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link

> Is Dubstep Allstars Vol 4 really out tomorrow?

the 17th according to amazon, yes. according to boomkat it's out in two days (but that's got to be a mistake, right, nothing's ever released on a thursday). ordered mine yesterday but it says '4 to 6 weeks' for delivery, so maybe not. it's a double cd btw, hatcha and youngsta mix a disk each.

koogy wonderland (koogs), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 07:51 (seventeen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
I like luke.envoy's 'Gamma' altho it seems archetypal but with just a deeper, darker bassline and busy enough to keep my interest. would really benefit from having an MC on it tho.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link

The Kode9 and Space Ape album is very good, probably better than the Burial album, although I'm on my first listen so this is preliminary assessment only. Very well produced indeed. I wouldn't have thought making a whole album with Space Ape was a good idea at all, although he is much less annoying over the course of an album than on a single track or throughout a mix (if I keep thinking about this i may even work out why). One advantage for Kode9 perhaps is that by having such consistency in the vocal department, listeners' attention is focused on the variety in the arrangements.

More thoughts to follow.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 August 2006 08:15 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Mary Anne Hobbs: Warrior Dubz (heh, this & Various to the Cover Connections thread!)

The Lex's review of same in The Guardian

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 13 October 2006 09:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Digital Mystikz and Pinch last night, they were both very good

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 13 October 2006 09:51 (seventeen years ago) link

this, the Kode9 lp, the Skream lp and the new Ed Rush & Optical lp (which is kinda off topic but not that much. and that Quarantine comp too) all shipping in the next couple of weeks...

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not really up on drum'n'bass (old or new) but I thought it was worth mentioning that DJ Clever (who jess iirc is always making reference to) has done a Dubstep CD mix recently.

Science Faction: Dubstep

01 - Scuba - Brown
02 - Pinch - Qawwali
03 - Gravious - Wormsign
04 - DJ Distance - Cyclops
05 - Hatcha & Benga - Progression
06 - Luke Envoy - Gamma
07 - Pinch - Punisher
08 - Scuba - Twista
09 - Vex'd - Killing Floor
10 - Scuba - Harpoon
11 - Search and Destroy - Candyfloss (Loefah Rmx)
12 - DJ Distance - Traffic
13 - DJ Distance - Nomad (Scuba Rmx)
14 - Mark One - Devil Boy
15 - Sileni - Twitchy Droid Leg (Vex'd Rmx)

(haven't heard this yet fwiw)

eh (fandango), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

02 - Pinch - Qawwali
15 - Sileni - Twitchy Droid Leg (Vex'd Rmx)

Badness!

Can some mod please change this thread's title? Makes me wince everytime I see it.

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

dubstep is dead, yeah???

HUNTA-V (vahid), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yep, dead as soon as it goes overground in 5, 4, 3 ...

(or, is your point something about that tracklist being too old/familiar/too small a pool of producers vahid? it's hard to tell)

eh (fandango), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

nah, just about the familiar british-dance-subgenre hype cycle

burial = "new forms"
science faction = "run the road"
dubstep allstars 4 = "platinum breakz 2"
spaceape = bad memories of talkin loud spoken word stuff circa 98 etc

HUNTA-V (vahid), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7417/skream21dm8.jpg

eh (fandango), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't understand any of those equations.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

The hyperbolic hype is getting to me. I don't want to hear how dubstep is the most forward thinking and radical new sound in dance music/the UK or whatever, ever again. The tendency of journos to always mention dark, paranoid Orwellian/Blairite London in any dubstep review is also wack. It's dubstep's equivalent of "cold, robotic, teutonic etc." whenever German techno is being discussed.

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Where is this hyperbolic hype? I must be missing it, because most everything I read is just like "dubstep, some good stuff, a lot of it's boring, people who think this stuff is going to blow up outside of it's little scene are smoking crack." Okay Mary Anne Hobbs excepted, she's supposed to hyperbolic when these guys are appearing on her show.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

dissenus

HUNTA-V (vahid), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Ohmigod wait you mean a forum which is for all intensive purposes a dubstep forum (there is another one too, but I think most of those guys post on both) is high on dubstep?!?! Jeez who'da thunk it!? I hear that they still are into roots on the B&F forums too! Also I hear Dillinja still likes the music he puts out!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

From BBC website thingy I linked on the Skream thread:

The first truly exciting thing to happen in dance music since the turn of the millennium, dubstep appears to be reaching a kind of critical mass in terms of the feverish media coverage afforded to it. At the epicentre of this swirling hype tornado is Skream, whose eponymous debut album arrives this week looking like it could be just the thing to tip dubstep over into the mainstream.

The Lex's(!) review of MAH's Warrior Dubz compilation in today's Graun (N.B. he was calling dubstep boring like two months ago!):
This is a superb introduction to some of the most thrilling, forward-thinking music in the UK today.

Time-out:
A woofer-carried pandemic is on its way and frankly, resistance is futile

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link


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