latepassapedia: records that were light years better the ones indie dudes eventually endorsed as classics

thread is a classic

maybe it's fucken good tho, burn us all a copy imo

was that the poll that the Space Jam soundtrack won because plax gave it 199 points on his ballot?

hahahahaha

nah shiina ringo (sp?) won it iirc coz someone gave it 200

space jam came second tho. otm.

lol - if I'd voted, the best 90s record would have been shiina ringo tied with the Luttenbachers' Destroy All Music.

lol @ anyone who legitimately brags about their top 10 of the year being all "limited edition cassete releases" accusing me of showcasing how ahead of the curve I am.

p sure i was just 'legitimately' curious how someone who cares abt both kanye & keith fullerton whitman reconciled that on their eoy lists but i guess i shouldnt forget its impossible to engage u civilly

Lamp, i'll extend the olive branch if you want to have a civil convo. what's yer question?

does Thurston Moore qualify as an indie dude? Can we use his endorsements as a foil?

s/indie dude/rock critic

I don't think some of these count because general recognition != "this is a classic". Some of these are just "indie press did not cover first album, covered second or later album after popular consensus led them to that musician."

Pretty sure people were all over that first Clipse album, or at least the ilm crowd was.

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― S'morgy (rip van wanko), Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:40 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I hope everyone else is singing this to the tune of 'Black and Yellow' too.

hah

lol, google chrome now thinks this page is in spanish and asks if I want to translate it

what's yer question?

oh lol on w/e IMPORTANT LIST THREAD it was that i brought up listening to/liking small run cassette releases i asked u how obscure/difficult to hear/lmtd run a release has to be before you wouldnt consider mentioning it in your own personal best of the year. & im p sure i only bragged on my 'cool' taste in music as part of that discussion...

i guess my sincere qn w/r/t to this thread wld be why (or i guess even if) u think it matters whether the nebulous 'indie crowd' cannonizes the 'wrong' clipse album given how ppl consume music now anyways

what a horribly enlightening "thread"

xpost - Well it doesn't really MATTER, technically. But I think ILX is one place where many people are professional, part-time or hobbyist critics/bloggers etc. And some times its interesting to talk about how sausages get made, y'know?

how sausage parties get made

(if you stretch the premise of this thread to include 'trapped in the closet' despite it not being an actual album...)

r. kelly - chocolate factory / tp-2.com

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

in what world is "Trapped In The Closet" R. Kelly's widely endorsed classic? and i mean...i don't prefer the '90s stuff to his '00s stuff but if anything 12 Play is the classic that "Ignition" era fans sleep on.

i have trapped in the closet on 12 cassettes, ecstatic peace put it out

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/stevin.gif

Why isn't this thread funny like the one about Bombay 2: Electric Vindaloo? Very disappointing stuff Whiney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppv7ujKeHS0

Ghostface - Supreme Clientele
David Banner - MTA and MTA2

Albums people still waiting to pick up their latepass:

Juvenile - Reality Check

2 of OP are rong imo

thread is some smuggy-smug bullshit. fuck it & fuck you whiney for starting it (gently and w the sweetest love, of course)

i'm fuxxor as fuck, and iirc, the people of my tribe caught this shit right off the bat:

MF Doom - Operation Doomsday
Fucked Up - Hidden World
Lil Wayne - Tha Carter II
Baroness - The Red Album
Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer
Clipse - Lord Willin
Mastodon - Leviathan
Ghostface - Supreme Clientele

tell you the truth, this seems more like a list of records that indies glommed onto than one of secret shit they missed while the cool kids were exchanging high fives on planet future.

oh wait, no it doesn't. it seems like indie nerds working out their indie guilt by shitting on other indie nerds. awesome.

maybe u can make a blog/book out of it. records white people like.

http://www.ssplprints.com/lowres/43/main/33/111929.jpg

it's called "brand maintenance"

so glad i'm not a serious dude

I know Boris fans who would say Akuma No Uta, but I dunno. Pink is pretty great.

oh wait, no it doesn't. it seems like indie nerds working out their indie guilt by shitting on other indie nerds. awesome.

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Sunday, January 30, 2011 4:26 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol tell em why you mad

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/hamlet-queue-415x275.jpg

Albums people still waiting to pick up their latepass:

Juvenile - Reality Check

― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Sunday, January 30, 2011 3:41 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

to the extent that Reality Check was praised it was probably partly by people who need a latepass on 400 Degreez or even Juve The Great

Boris has so many good records

okay, touche, i am serious dude getting all butthurt. that's kinda my thing. but man, i am SO fucking sick of indies and hipsters lolling at indies and hipsters, acting like their super hipster indie shit don't stink. it's like when goth kids claim not to be goth in one breath and in the next tell you why those kids over there "aren't really gothic." gah, makes me wanna kill.

flight of the behemoth is such a perfect example. if you wore out a tape of the grimmrobe demos or snagged a prerelease copy of 00 void off anderson, then sure, you get a bonus plaque. otherwise, you're just in there with the pack, picking up on shit as it picks up fans.

lol this thread reminds me of some *insightful opinions* i was having today re the concept of "indie guilt." Kindof occurs to me that other genres dont really have this problem where they disown the genre they are fans of as being for lamewads (i mean there is in-genre fighting and the resulting factioning of like backpacker lame-os and like how ppl from europe dont understand the soul of disco or w/e).

I feel like indie is always really interested in neoromantic "year zero" narratives which is like a hangover from punk or something and maybe as a consequence of its magpie attitude to other genres, indie ppl seem to try and get some of this razed earth frission (via personal brand makeover) by jumping on board other genres. and also bc of the kind of territorial pissing that we saw on the the-dream thread, ppl naturally think that "being there first" w/ music makes them realer fans (and obv. that kind of authenticity is gonna be important to anybody whos trying not to look like they were really into grizzly bear a couple weeks ago) and i think the interaction b/w these two characteristics one of gen. music nerds and one more spec. of indie fans is gonna make threads like this a dishearteningly inevitable reality omg blech

but yeah, boris has records. i came it @ akuma no uta. what's that make me? (an indie rocker.)

indie guilt realness fetish = rockism eating its own entrails

Pretty sure that me and j0rd attempting to have a civilized convo about some albums that fit a common pattern says way less about "indie guilt" than the people who instantly get MEGA-BUTTHURT about this thread and start opining about out psychological makeup

http://www.ssplprints.com/lowres/43/main/33/111929.jpg

― Cars and Freedom (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2011 21:29 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^is this guy racking out a line or

artists where indie ppl were right on it

- t.i.

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:04 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

waht

like all that shit about flag-planting and "I WAS THERE FIRST" and our "ground-level" hipness is stuff other people are projecting on to this thread.

i think this could have been posed in a less INDIE INTERNAL DEBATE/WARFARE way, like, 'critics were late on these artists,' in a way that doesnt exclude like rap critics or whatever

do you have any good examples?

trynna dice us up into little groups

i dont give a shit when 'indie kids' got up on something but i am kind of interested in when critical discourse comes around to come artists & what moves those artists have to make to get that attention

cool, do you have any good examples?

three-6 mafia

Pretty sure that me and j0rd attempting to have a civilized convo about some albums that fit a common pattern says way less about "indie guilt" than the people who instantly get MEGA-BUTTHURT about this thread and start opining about out psychological makeup

― url sweatshirt (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, January 30, 2011 9:57 PM (4 minutes ago)

lol i wasnt getting butthurt at all but this is crazy disingenuous given the thread title was this changed afterwards or what bc i mean i only got here recently i cant claim i was here at the beginning.