So, Fleet Foxes...

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hahaha yeah I'll let it go

lets go back to talking about AC/DC

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't really agree with the sound vs. songs distinction - I think that the songs are interesting (sometimes interesting for how they meander and fall apart, but still interesting) as much as the sound. Though perhaps when it comes to the lyrics, I would agree with a sound vs. sense distinction. As Nabisco rightly points out, there is a lot of craft going into how the lyrics sound (rhyme, rhythm, alliteration, etc.), though the sense of the words sometimes verges on the hippy-dippy. That doesn't bother me too much though.

o. nate, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Shakey am I tripping or did you seriously just try to tell me that swallowing/followed is better categorized as alliteration?!?!?!

nabisco, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

- scARRves of RRRed tied RRound their thRRoats

or can't follow what's going on with the S, R, and T sounds in this:

- snow red as strawberries in the summertime

no I was referring to ^^^this, which is alliteration

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I love Blue Ridge Mountains. But then again I love all songs that remind me of "Billie Jean."

Turangalila, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

nabisco otm about white winter hymnal

Turangalila, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, yes, that is alliteration. Not sure why you felt a need to point that out to me, but yes, that is true.

If you really wrap your mouth around it, there's also something nice going on with the sequence of vowel sounds, too, which kind of open up gradually -- ah (scarves), eh (red), ie (tied), ow (round), oh (throats), mostly with the Rs dropping between them.

I think this writing is kind of an, umm, outlier in terms of Fleet Foxes lyrics, though, because as soon as I noticed it I actually started googling around to double-check that they hadn't lifted the lyrics from a poem somewhere; it stuck out to me that way. But listening after that, there's some decent attention to sound in some of the others, too, which ... it seems like a rarity with lyrics.

nabisco, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

- scARRves of RRRed tied RRound their thRRoats

or can't follow what's going on with the S, R, and T sounds in this:

- snow red as strawberries in the summertime

no I was referring to ^^^this, which is alliteration

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, December 4, 2008 1:37 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark


not to be too much of a geekdick here, but that's actually better described as consonance

k3vin k., Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

are performing on SNL??

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Friday, 9 January 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Blue Ridge Moutain cannot be denied

baaderonixx, Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

with rosario dawson :D

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

seems like an odd fit for the show. i don't like them at all, but trying tbf i don't really see this as being too appealing/fun for anyone not already a fan.

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

They've already played a couple of the late night shows; this really shouldn't come as a shocka to anyone.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, a lot of bands play late night shows. they're something like the sixth indie band ever to play SNL, which is basically the holy grail of late-night shows

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:33 (fifteen years ago) link

by the same token it probably wasn't too appealing/fun for anyone not already a fan of

My Morning Jacket
Vampire Weekend
Wilco
Fiest
Spoon
Arcade Fire
The Shins
Death Cab For Cutie
Modest Mouse (in the halcyon days of 2004)

So, um, yeah, in the past three years indie bands of a certain size have gotten to play SNL. Why you would call them an "odd fit" I don't know.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Their s/t is the best thing to listen to while driving around rural Michigan after a big snowstorm.

redmond, Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I hope you ran over Bon Iver

da croupier, Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Wisconsin.

Matos W.K., Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link

MMJ - appeared on the show to promote evil urges, which debuted at #9 on the charts.
VW - appeared on the show to promote vampire weekend, which debuted at #17 and was everywhere by then (march). certainly comparable to FF in that regard, but i'd argue that VW are easier to like and better suited for such a show
Wilco - appeared after sky blue sky, which debuted at #4, their second top-10 charting album in a row. YHF went gold.
Feist - appeared in support of the reminder, which debuted at #16 and had a song in about every commercial on TV at that point and was up for numerous mainstream awards. cannot seem to find ratings for SNL, but i'd be willing to bet they dipped for this show. could be wrong
Spoon - appeared in support of ga ga ga ga ga, which debuted at #10
Arcade Fire - appeared to promote neon bible which debuted at #2
Shins - appeared to promote wincing the night away, which debuted at #2, not to mention the garden state push
DCFC - appeared to promote plans, which peaked at #4
Modest Mouse - appeared to promote the already-platinum good news for people who like bad news

fleet foxes' self-titled album debuted at #67 in the US. they've been getting a lot of love recently in just about every music publication, but they're easily the most obscure of any of the acts mentioned above, and probably the "weirdest". i'm not saying they shouldnt play the show or that no one is going to enjoy it, i'm just saying that from what i recall there isn't really a precedent for this kind of band, so it caught me by surprise

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't play this record too much anymore, but when i do i'll try and play it all the way through, because it's somehow never immediately lulls me back in each time i return to it. i like to really establish a rapport with the textures, sounds and moods, and i find this takes some involved listening.

Charlie Howard, Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't think I'd like these guys, but you know what, I listened to a few tracks on YouTube tonight and they're not bad, rather pleasant actually, soothing, pastoral.

ilxor, Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:08 (fifteen years ago) link

so many adjectives to describe these guys

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link

and you chose those

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link

by kevink. at 06:35 PM on 01/08/09 Reply
@cookiedough: lol, you're kind missing the point entirely, but w/e.

RHCP
DMB
dashboard confessional (basically any nu-emo)
fleet foxes

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

:D

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

the album's doing pretty well plus no one is out promoting anything. you wanna see lady gaga or some shit?

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i can't ride for this album but i liked them when i saw them live and im sure this will be pleasant enough

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i was being kinda unnecessarily harsh i guess. it's not my thing of course, but like i said, i dont see a bearded dude falsettoing on a chair flying with a lot of the audience.

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:48 (fifteen years ago) link

you know who watches snl regularly? ppl like my parents who are into http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5124YM060WL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:50 (fifteen years ago) link

lol, fair. we'll see!

choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't understand -- this band on SNL is the same band that released the Fleet Foxes album (and Sun Giant EP), right? Cause it's like a totally different, not quite as good, band.

Mordy, Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:45 (fifteen years ago) link

omg i forgot today was saturday! fucking packing

Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link

lol this is 'fun'

Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link

lol their one dude looks like a hairier jeff ross

Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:49 (fifteen years ago) link

What the hell is with people sucking on SNL as of late? (Kanye, Taylor Swift, Fleet Foxes...) Are these just bad live performers? Or has something started sucking at the SNL studio?

Mordy, Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:49 (fifteen years ago) link

look at me im awkward lol! arghh i hate this band so much >:|

Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:50 (fifteen years ago) link

The first song was fucking horrible.

The second song was really nice but I wouldn't buy their album based on it.

VERDICT: FAIL

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:51 (fifteen years ago) link

also I've only seen her a couple of times but Taylor Swift appears to be incapable of singing live

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:52 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i dunno, ive warmed to taylor's vocal limitations (same with Ye), because for me it's not rly the focal point of her music

Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:53 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh kenan thompson has ONE FACE

Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:54 (fifteen years ago) link

So bizarre. I love Fleet Foxes, but if I had heard their SNL performance I probably would never have bothered with the album. Isn't an SNL performance supposed to encourage sales, not depress them?

Mordy, Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:55 (fifteen years ago) link

No, you heard wrong. It's supposed to depress them.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Sunday, 18 January 2009 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Why isn't cowboy music ever described as "pastoral"?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 18 January 2009 09:08 (fifteen years ago) link

What the hell is with people sucking on SNL as of late? (Kanye, Taylor Swift, Fleet Foxes...) Are these just bad live performers? Or has something started sucking at the SNL studio?

― Mordy, Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:49 PM Bookmark

When I saw Kanye ('06) he put on a great show, although I'm not sure I'd be in a huge rush to see an 808s-era Kanye show.

The Reverend, Sunday, 18 January 2009 09:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Was that '06 show the Bumbershoot one? That was good.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 18 January 2009 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Yup. That it was.

I'm in the building and I'm feeling myself (The Reverend), Sunday, 18 January 2009 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha we could so turn this into a Kanye thread. Xgau just gave the album an A-.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 18 January 2009 10:23 (fifteen years ago) link

"Avoiding what subject?"

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 18 January 2009 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Is the J Tillman album worth a look? (He's the drummer of Fleet Foxes.)

davek_00, Sunday, 18 January 2009 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

There's something about the SNL space that has always sucked the life out of every performer, but wall-of-sound bands will probably be able to blast their way into listenability. Something more intricate just ends up sounding distant and disjointed. Could be just the way things are miked; maybe it sounds better if you're there. If you knew and liked those Fleet Foxes songs beforehand, you could follow along and provide the what was missing yourself, but if that was your first time listening to them, I can't imagine you'd expend any energy trying to get into them.

Michael Train, Sunday, 18 January 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link


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