Village Voice Media being acquired by New Times very soon

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they should be flattered, that's a sweet offer

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link

If he doesn't know better than to publish that on his blog, then you have to wonder what he did to get fired.
Eh? What's wrong with posting that on your blog after you've been axed? Clearly New Times ain't hiring you for anything, and there's no competition in town.

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

FWIW, my ltter from my Phoenix canning said simply "due to performance." And I never verbally got a concrete reason. And I got a promise of a reference and a month's severance. Not much of a firing, right? Doesn't mean much. Personally, I now think they did me a favor letting me go in light of the direction the company has gone, the tanking of music journalism this year and a lot of personal shit in my life that would have never gotten resolved had I continued as a municipal music editor.

O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope this doesn't mean you have more time to post on ILM.

mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

nah, using about the same amount of time ... :-)

O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe the New Media folks read ILM and fire everyone who's ever posted on here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

bye bye saul williams sex column

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I am afraid to check to see if that actually exists.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe the New Media folks read ILM and fire everyone who's ever posted on here.

Maybe we started ILM as one of many performance benchmark tools/guttersnipe filters we ultimately plan on licensing on a B2B basis for a host of workplace functions. Coming soon: I love TacosTM,I love editing videoTM, I love scalping ticketsTM.

cc:Everyone who's fired and gonna be fired

New Times Folks (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I am afraid to check to see if that actually exists.

don't search for the momus medical advice column then, either.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

The Washington City Paper Arts editor quit on his own back in June and the following ad's been running since that time:

ARTS EDITOR. THE
posted 06/23/2006
Arts Editor. The Washington City Paper needs an arts editor to help us rethink our award-winning arts section from the ground up. We’re looking for someone who’s addled by pop culture, who’s equally comfortable with brows high and low, who can effortlessly absorb our editorial sensibility (hint: Start working on your puns now). You’ll develop and nurture a stable of freelancers and channel the efforts of our own staffers. Your ability to direct and edit coverage across boundaries must be unsurpassed­-we need someone who’s conversant about Francis Picabia and Park Chan-wook and can glimpse the eternal in freak folk and Mamet. The ideal candidate will astonish us every week. Send a cover letter and resume to: Arts Editor, Washington City Paper, 2390 Champlain St. NW, Washington, DC 20009; artseditor@washingtoncitypaper.

cornyrocker (DC Steve), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

can glimpse the eternal in freak folk

"interminable," i think they meant

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe we started ILM

Your name ain't Tom Ewing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link

start working on your puns?

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, or else.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link

so do i need a GED?

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link

or just some good puns?

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:22 (seventeen years ago) link

equally comfortable with bros hi and lo

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

t or f: a year from now hi and lois will be too highbrow/leftist for the village voice

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

"So there's this great new web comic I think we should run, Day by Day."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

btw you guys know that newsmax site? they'll have those awful gif's on drudgereport with stuff like 'who hate's america most?' and the choices are osama, hillary, and michael moore? anyhow turns out they put out a glossy! saw it at publix earlier - thing's really awful, worse than talk magazine even.

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, if it helps with bankruptcy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link

anyhow here's the thing - i've read an issue of newsmax more recently than i've read the village voice. and i suspect that will hold for awhile.

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Mr. Soul Coughing's take on Christgau's sacking below. Was NY Press ever vital though?

http://www.mikedoughty.com/blog/

"I've snarked at him plenty, but ultimately much respect.

Funny that my old alma mater, the NYPress, has been able to maintain
its pose--that of the drunken self-destructor--longer than the Voice's progressive-avenger pose. Not that the Press is vital in the least anymore. Both papers lost the people that justified/created those personas years ago.

New York is the city of Time Out. I never would've thought so when it debuted. It seemed so laughably gee-whiz, I thought they'd fold in a month. But New York is like that now. (I really, really don't want to be the "I miss the rats on Rivington Street" guy, OK?) The children move here for fantasies of Sex and the City, expensive shoes and bottle-service clubs, not squats and art and rock and roll.

And I, and I think everybody else, goes looking for their drunken self-destructors and progressive avengers out in the blogosphere. I pass the street corner boxes that distribute the Voice and the Press, and man, they look sad. Moribund."

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link

"Your ability to direct and edit coverage across boundaries must be unsurpassed -we need someone who’s conversant about Francis Picabia and Park Chan-wook and can glimpse the eternal in freak folk and Mamet."

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The children move here for fantasies of Sex and the City, expensive shoes and bottle-service clubs, not squats and art and rock and roll.

How nice that his fantasies are more valid, apparently.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 04:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Curmudgeon is pretty much OTM - for most of Manhattan, at least.

Is there anything genuinely good on the rise in Brooklyn? The Rail?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

How nice that his fantasies are more valid, apparently.

They're more egalitarian, at least.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Are they or is it just fetishization?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

ned adores his manolo blahniks

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I adore my Manolo Blahniks too, but I'm more impressed by people striving to create than people striving to be served.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

While I am as well, I'll be damned if I see that as a sign of moral superiority. (Which may not be what Doughty is trying to convey, I'll grant, but the aftertaste is there. Doughty himself was never a 'kid' or anything, oh no.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think he's trying to convey moral superiority so much as "what made ny cool and a great place to live for me and people i know is changing"

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

which is a very personal lament and not an objective moral critique.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, fair enough. But I get the same feeling like what Todd Haynes did at the end of Velvet Goldmine, namely that *he* felt the art while the 'kids' are just sheep. Charming, maybe unavoidable, and I'm hardly guiltless I'm sure. But it's ugly and I will call it out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

(I knew that old article I wrote for FT on said film was around somewhere, here it is.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned looking down from his lofty computer shocka.

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

"But it's ugly and I will call it out."

Not that I like the Soul Coughing guy much, but I don't see much ugliness in that bit. Mostly just resignation to the fact that the city's changed.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

ha, coincidentally i'm working on something about haynes right now (immersed in safe at the moment, soon to move on to vg. i think you're right about that moment, ned, and i think what makes the difference between haynes and dery is that haynes' sadness is personal -- the things that mattered to him have been degraded and usurped. but he doesn't allow that to be an all-encompassing condemnation, or rule out the possibility of other things meaning something to other people that they don't to him. which, at least on the basis of your dery quote, it sounds like dery is. anyway, you've made me anxious to finish up my safe section so i can get on to goldmine.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

you could put the quote into the mouth of someone like Stephin Merritt and I don't think anyone would blink

Hee hee hee.

I feel like the point of Goldmine was less about the particular genre of music and more about aging. Maybe that's too optimistic though.

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm with ya on the dery thing, Ned, but the reading into the Parks quote is really ssstttteeeeeeeeeretching it. Do you still stand by that?

i need to see VG again, i liked it at the time but felt it was only 75% successful (that citizen kane rip thing was not so good). SAFE pwns pretty much everything else he ever did, except maybe the Karen Carpenter-as-doll opus.

timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 7 September 2006 06:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i think safe is a better movie -- it's an amazing movie, really -- but i enjoy velvet goldmine more anyway. i'm pretty much a fan of everything of his except poison, which leaves me cold. (it's interesting, but not interesting enough.) the karen carpenter movie is great too.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 7 September 2006 06:21 (seventeen years ago) link

(looping the haynes discussion back to the voice, didn't the voice critics poll name safe the best film of the '90s?)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 7 September 2006 06:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't like Poison either.
i would definitely have Safe in my top 5 of the 90s. (and i'm glad hoberman lives on, but it's probably a matter of time before he bites it too, no?)

timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 7 September 2006 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

that the only letter re: xgau xit they published this week says 'it's only a matter of time til hoberman's fired' certainly doesn't seem a vote of confidence. safe was the voice's pick for best flick of the nineties, obv incredibly great movie.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 7 September 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

such a wonderful blend of bergman and crichton. definitely one of my fave movies. i've always considered it a great feel-good movie. it never fails to cheer me up. (i had to try really hard to get to the end of velvet goldmine. i knew it had to end eventually.)

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 7 September 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Safe is awesome! watched it again last year on somebody's bigscreen TV, liked it even more. I really wanted to love Velvet Goldmine, maybe I need to see it on something bigger than my TV.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:00 (seventeen years ago) link

safe is such a great movie to watch stoned. along with persona and the andromeda strain. make it a triple-feature!

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

from the webpage

2006-09-05: Reports of My Dismissal Have Been Reasonably Accurate

On August 31, I was terminated by the new owners of The Village Voice along with four other senior editors, two gifted designers, and half of the two-person photo department. The mass layoff was characterized as a "restructuring," but I was fired "for taste." Because our union long ago anticipated the possibility of this kind of drastic overhaul, a contractually mandated severance arrangement will give me some time to get my economic future in order. But the specifics of that future probably won't be clear for a while.

The Voice changed a lot over the 37 years I wrote there and 32 years I was employed there. I haven't approved of all those changes, especially over the past decade. But for most of that time, with our unionization when Rupert Murdoch purchased the paper in 1977 a turning point, the Voice paid me to write well. My old bosses always understood that constructing a well-informed essay takes time, and that sorting, grading, and saying something honest and original about an incomprehensible plethora of records takes forever. I am grateful for the support my editors gave me, although I certainly believe I gave them surplus value back. But how my worklife is to proceed remains to be seen. I'll be letting you know in this space when I know myself.

Let me take this opportunity to say how very grateful I am, first simply for the interest all the visitors to this site have taken in my work, but especially for the labor volunteered by a few. Tom Hull's contribution is of course inestimable. The condolence notes Tom has forwarded to me have been much appreciated. I'll be OK. Like they say, it's too late to stop now. Or was that can't stop won't stop? Either way, both ways, I'll be in touch, and I'll be listening.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 September 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

The thing is, even if the Voice were still at its peak of quality, it wouldn't be at its peak of hip credibilty and influence, because things are so de-centralized now, with the Wuh Wuh (incl that thread about current proliferation of zines, even)And that was kind of true even when most people weren't online yet, there were hell of a lot of zines by the mid-80s, at least. So, it's not as devastating (or significant) as would have been some years ago.

don (dow), Saturday, 9 September 2006 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link


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