Destroyer - Kaputt (2011)

tell them you got the new Toto record.

im on my second listen now, im loving it.

Come to think of it, the more you listen to the Drake, the more the pacing starts to make sense...it's meant to be kind of startling in its subtlety.

No feeling Antebellum at all.

meant for tracks list, sorry folks (could a mod delete it?)

just put on the vinyl~~~~

Now all you need is a doobie..

yeah i really want to listen to this louder but since im in my office i cant.

basically want "suicide demo" to be twice as long (and it's already 8 minutes!)

oh man sounds so much better than the 160kbps mp3s i had

~swoon~

xp REAL TALK

there is nothing "corny" about this record. the only people in the world who would even think about the cheesy musical references or whatever basically post in this thread

really?

ppl that got the vinyl tell me about the 20 minute intrumental!

haven't gotten there yet! just got back from the electric baby

there is nothing "corny" about this record. the only people in the world who would even think about the cheesy musical references or whatever basically post in this thread

― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:59 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark

dude i love this shit and the jazzy flute licks on demo for sara walker would beg to differ

yeah i mean it totally codes as 'corny' for some ppl ... i just think its lame for ny times reviewers to take that tack, as those are the values of a certain niche of fans but certainly not the broad spectrum of people

well that's the thing, is that the only person so far that's called it corny is a lol college student who probably has no idea who or what these references are, just that they're the stuff that crops up on dadrock radio. so it's not niche music nerds who are acknowledging the corniness, imo, it's exactly the opposite? like i'm sure my sister would think this was cheesy as all hell because she'd hear the smooth saxophone and immediately go "kenny g, barf"

right yeah but otoh my dad likes it

i mean, i guess that music nerd niche is a really broad one -- young ppl w/ hip taste but not like music nerds per se

attn: there's some eno warm jets type shit going on in the instrumental right now

I'm pretty sure that a guy who did an album entirely using MIDI instrumentation is pretty comfortable intentionally exploring notions of cheesiness and corniness.

i'm listening to destroyer for the very first time right now. really nice, although dude's voice is the part i like the least. definitely makes me think indie steely dan...anyone know who's on sax?

this is sort of a cross-point w/ my post about gayngs on the countdown thread but i basically agree w/ gbx, im just trying to say that there are lots of people outside of music nerds who wouldnt think of this LP as being 'bad-cheesy'

n/a: yup, which is why i think m@tt was otm w/this:

In it’s own way, it’s as aggressive in its aesthetic as any noise record

the vaseline-on-lens sound (if that makes sense) seems almost purposefully uncool/challenging, at least superficially.

deej: totally agree with that, fwiw. i just think it's a little myopic to assume (not that yr doing this!) that this will have universal appeal. you kinda have to be willing to wade into the cheese. maybe not if yr an older dude/dad who has always loved this stuff, and not if yr a nerd who has investigated lots of different genres/eras, but i think for younger indie types everything about this record is just flat-out rong and whack.

yah i mean i think it made sense for mark r to address it for pfork, but i thought it was a lil presumptive in the ny times

need gbx to liveblog the instrumental tbh

done with it already, circling back to the beginning tbh

I, too, publicly endorse this record.

― Moka, Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:46 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

but I know I could never play it to my real friends.

― Moka, Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:46 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

I sent a message in a bottle to the press.
It said: "don’t be ashamed or disgusted with yourselves."
I’ve thumbed through the books on your shelves.

I’ve thumbed through the books on your shelves.

she'd hear the smooth saxophone and immediately go "kenny g, barf"

hell that's pretty much my reaction to the sax and I like the record. and post regularly on balearic threads. I don't think it's a stretch to say parts of this code as cheesy. anyway I guess no one's arguing that anymore. :)

so how is the ambient piece? I'm kind of disappointed that Bay of Pigs won't be making it onto the vinyl

^ really? i think that's great news--i don't like Bay of Pigs.

it's got that swiiiiiiiing

oh wait, Bay of Pigs is side 4 of the vinyl.

interesting
discogs has it as "Bay of Pigs (Detail)".
the pitchfork review mentions that an ambient piece was substituted for BoP on the vinyl

I’ve thumbed through the books on your shelves.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070724053832/simpsons/images/thumb/7/73/Drive_in.png/495px-Drive_in.png

oh great, i shelled out for the vinyl just for the side 4 vinyl only track which turns out to be Bay of Pigs...

um

isn't the instrumental piece vinyl-only, too?

just listened to some clips... can't say I'm really drawn to it. as pastiche it seems a bit too straight/faithful to its sources and the one thing that sticks out as unusual/out of place is 9as noted by others) his voice. which is terrible.

This is not pastiche.

yr right, pastiche implies disparate elements - this is more like an homage I guess

dunno if I'm gonna make it through all the songs tbh kinda wanna turn it off already and just listen to Katy Lied instead

Listen to "Downtown."

the sleeve is great, I'll give him that.

this doesnt sound close enough to 'katy lied' (or anything else really) to be 'pastiche' ... its using certain instruments & production styles but doesnt sound structurally like the stuff ppl are comparing it to, like, at all

certainly way too freeform to be steely dan esque

that's kinda what I don't like about it! Steely Dan had HOOKS and (at least up until Aja/Gaucho) some pretty weird/twisty song structures. this stuff just kinda floats along on two-chord changes and a lot of washed out textures - trying hard to be Babylon Sisters but lacking the chops

i dont know babylon sisters but uhhh being freeform is the point, its not 'about' hooks

dude I am agreeing with you

re: Babylon Sisters - this is the opening track on Gaucho, the Dan's last album. it is noteworthy - sorta - for signalling a shift away from the complex structures and chordal interplay that were the band's usual stock in trade and toward a more free-form, groove-centered approach. even so, it has more changes/tonal shadings than this Destroyer stuff. even tho the underlying chord structure is simple, there are a whole bunch of melodies and weird harmonies and turnarounds in it. which don't really seem to be evident in Kaputt afaict.