Ellen Allien - "Thrills"

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The Kiki 'body trip' remix is amazing, synthy sunny happiness but I'm gonna get it on the new Camping 2 (cd) compilation. Skipped this 12". I don't know about the Troy Pierce mix, minimal, at a guess!

'Down' remixes by dinky, fuckaloop & drama society out sometime. Looking forward to the Dinky particularly.

login name (fandango), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:57 (eighteen years ago) link

it's (kiki rmx) at the start of this set btw, just after the first orbital track - http://www.ump3.de/sites/ellen_allien_djset_creamfields_august2005.php

login name (fandango), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't suppose anyone's got that BBC One World session to YSI have they?

Nice write up here for this mix - A set that Ellen Allien recorded as a Sónar promo, originally hosted by Samurai FM, is now streaming from the "Online Radio" section of Allien's own website. Like everything Allien does, it's wet and dry, brainy and ravey, shocking and blasé all at once. I didn't know half the tracks-- like the crickets-in-rocking-chairs opener, or the plaintive yet blissed out Basic Channelly number that follows it-- but a helpful ILMer posted the tracklist here, so we can all trainspot together as Allien veers from planar click tracks into ridiculous kazoo fantasias, and from massive overdriven hangar bangers into the epic, John-Williams-goes-raving conclusion of Paul Kalkbrenner's newest "Ta-tü-tata", a record which-- like Sascha Funke's "Boy", also a recent Bpitch release-- everyone should own.

Funny how it never really clicked with me completely before now (found that whilst already listening and googling, like most pieces of "news" on Pitchfork I completely miss them at the time 'cos the layout is so crapshite) I love how it's so airy yet claustrophobic. I just wish I could squeeze it all down into 45 mins, it's a bit slow to unfold (and the mixing on the last three tracks is erm.. not the best, esp. for her).

Worst song, played on ugliest guitar (fandango), Sunday, 13 November 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link

(a link is always helpful) http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/urban/oneworld/professor_ellen.shtml

Worst song, played on ugliest guitar (fandango), Sunday, 13 November 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link

John-Williams-goes-raving

!!

gear (gear), Sunday, 13 November 2005 05:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I have no idea who that bit's referring to actually.

Worst song, played on ugliest guitar (fandango), Sunday, 13 November 2005 05:11 (eighteen years ago) link

or rather, who John Williams is (yes I should probably try IMDB.com, I should also go to bed now too).

Worst song, played on ugliest guitar (fandango), Sunday, 13 November 2005 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw her live. She was so booooring.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 13 November 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
New album Ellen Allien and Apparat out in april 2006!

=)

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 8 December 2005 02:26 (eighteen years ago) link

collaboration... not separately.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 8 December 2005 02:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Sounds interesting. I just listened to Thrills tonight for the first time in a few months and found myself enjoying it more than I thought I would. I still think the first track is a bit dull, but the rest are pretty good. It sounds better at night and at a relatively loud volume. I listened to it while driving, and it hit the spot nicely. Maybe it will creep back onto my year's best list.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not sure what to expect really. Hopefully not anything too similar to stuff already released by either of them. Wonder if that proposed Ghostly International single will ever come out?

I'm still excited about the interview where she mentioned ideas for her Fourth album! (i.e. not this one).

Either way a semi-quiet stopgap 2006 could be good... I feel like I might burn out on Bpitch before I burn out on Ms. Allien though (and perhaps current dance stuff generally, maybe it's winter blues or I've just been following stuff, in my way, to the exclusion of too much other music... either way I've been a little less enthused of late).

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I would expect it to be a follow up of Berlinette, since the production on that album was largely done by Apparat.

Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link

If Stadtkind didn't exist I'd have a little more faith in that notion...

She calls it their "first proper collaboration" anyhow, can't see any reason why she'd be obtuse about it. Holger Zilske has been credited with co-production on all three albums so far, I think he deserves more of the credit myself, for the sake of accuracy.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:18 (eighteen years ago) link

This was kinda discussed upthread already anyway.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link

New album :)! I have spent some more time lately listening to Thrills. Feel that its as good or better than I thought it was, but remains somewhat of a difficult experience. Still listening to some of Berlinette too -mostly Augenblick. AugB and parts of Thrills fulfulling the guitar/strings/metallic sound i'm missing from rock -- and almost feels like a better replacement. I still think the first track of Thrills is insane.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i think the first track of thrills might be my favourite - there's something so physical and propulsive in it

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 December 2005 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link

'Down' is my favourite.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 8 December 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

'washing machine is speaking', too

(omg bootleg with kate bush's 'mrs bartolozzi' is dying to be made)

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 December 2005 11:42 (eighteen years ago) link

add Larry Heard's 'Washing Machine' in too and you've got a 'winner'.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 8 December 2005 11:44 (eighteen years ago) link

...and segue into 'washing up (tiga rmx)' at highest point of night

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 December 2005 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Thrills will probably be my completely unexpected year-end fave LP. So underwhelming at first, but such a full and absorbing experience as it unfolds.

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 December 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this kind of falls through the cracks- it's too electropop for the house-heads, too house for the indie-heads.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Ellen totally falls through the cracks as far as recognition goes, I've been saying that to people for ages. Or ranting at them ^_^

Just like Berlinette* wasn't boring & straight enough for the techno purists, but way too danceable for the IDM geeks. I think she's better than many artists in both areas at the moment.

It's all near-perfect for me though =)

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

it's weird... berlinette didn't do much for me but thrills... wow. i think it's the ARP--so heavy and harsh and warm

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't know if ellen herself falls through the cracks - she has a massive rep as a dj, and loads of respect for being bpitch matriarch etc - but this album definitely seems to have. maybe cos it came out so early in the year. it's a top 10 lock for me though.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i think if she had broader exposure she would get alot of crossover interest and some sort of explosion would occur. but i thought she was huge with electronica/dance/techno community in Europe, or is it just Germany?

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

xposts - Actually you're right... her DJ profile has got a significant bump, and she wasn't exactly 'obscure' before, and I can now, if I so wish buy her record in Virgin Megastore so I should be happy!

I just find this rather slow, steady uptake in general (and Bpitch too, if the boat hasn't been missed completely now) frustrating. But then I'm a total fanboy and probably have all this totally out of perspective.

Susan, I'm not even sure if 'electronica/dance/techno' is 'huge' in Europe by the standards of previous years. It's also hard to gauge living in England (not London for me), it feels like a really backwards country a lot of the time now since the Britpop years. Not that d/t/e automatically automatically = forwards thinking, but dance music doesn't seem to be viewed as a creative sector here unlike er... The Libertines?? Oh, and Grime.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

As far as "broader exposure" goes... I have to give credit to Pitchfork there (not that I loved the Thrills review, but they do cover her) the dance media have given her due time too, the parts of it that aren't completely conservative anyway. She's getting there.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

"electronica/dance/techno" is big in spain and germany at least (and i think france, to some extent) but that really means more in terms of media exposure and club/festival bookings. i don't think CD sales are terrific, though vinyl's sure easier to come by here (but this is a market where selling 8000 copies of a 12" is considered akin to going platinum). mainly it's that people don't screw up their faces and look like you're a puppy-killer when you like techno; they just ask if you were at creamfields with them this summer, and how much did you pay for pills.

i do think ellen and bpitch have done a very good job of breaking into US indie-centric media, along with kompakt and, before them (and more indie), warp.

and i can't WAIT to hear ellen collaborate with apparat.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

btw, hi susan!!!

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

i want to be involved with something that makes people look at me like i'm a puppy-killer. i guess its a good thing her popularity in mostly confined to spain/germany. hi phil!

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Thrills still gets to me, one of my fave techno records of the year.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 9 December 2005 00:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Aww yeah! We be killing puppies for THRILLS!

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Friday, 9 December 2005 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Just like Berlinette* wasn't boring & straight enough for the techno purists, but way too danceable for the IDM geeks.

OTM. I thought it was too polished ... too much of the Kompakt-esque smoothness (which I like ordinarily) ... I strongly prefer the dirtier, sloppier "Thrills" (particularly stuff like "The Brain Is Lost").

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 9 December 2005 09:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I loved Berlinette when it came out, but it's true that after Thrills it sounds precious and mannered. Thrills at its best is such a greasy bad-ass record.

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Friday, 9 December 2005 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I've finally gotten over the hump and am totally into Thrills now. Washing Machine is probably the only song that I don't totally love. I don't know what happened, but suddenly I'm listening to this completely effortlessly now. I'm probably finally hearing the techno album that others talked about from the beginning. Before it felt obsessed with seeing the dissection of the parts or something, but now its like all sex and muscle and brain as sex and muscle - doesn't feel so distracting that its exposed or something and i'm just enjoying the better look but can feel the function too. whatever. Its damn good. If this really has fallen through the cracks, its a total shame -this is the most satisfying thing I've heard in a long time. She must have had a good time making this.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Still don't get it!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't, or you dont?

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I appreciate this a lot more at the end of the year than when I first heard it. A really inspired, unexpected follow up and what can I say... I look forward to more of whatever comes!

It was always going to be a tricky one though, I mean "Berlinette" was just one of those huge, huge records for me personally. Also that has 'dirt' too (that wildy flanging, filthy bassline in Abstract Pictures - OMG) but yes, I can totally understand it coming over more considered, produced, premeditated overall. Thrills manages to do 'mimimal (in the most UN-minimal, fattened up & slamming way possible) and 'raw' at the same time.

login name (fandango), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Ronan, have you heard the "Your Body Is My Body (Kiki Rmx)"?

That feels pretty much the opposite of the 'cold' sound of Thrills to me. Give it a go :)

login name (fandango), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Thrills is kind of warm and cold at the same time. The chords are mostly minor-key and the lyrics are few and far between, which gives it a cold, impersonal vibe, but at the same time the synth sounds are very analog and warm. I like that it's not as busy as Berlinette - more straightforward, driving, steady tempos and no extra elements added just for the sake of ornamentation - each element is only applied when needed. That lean, muscular sound just begs to be played loud. I'm surprised more people don't mention "Naked Rain" - that's a real standout track for me.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

fangando-can you ysi that? I've love to hear it too.

rereading/remembering upthread about your warmth issue Ronan -the type of warmth Thrills provides feels better to me than Berlinette's. so maybe if you didn't enjoy B, maybe you'll like T eventually. i just know when people say this electronica is so "warm" i often don't agree - feels like there's emotive melody or vocals or organic or lush sounds laid over some totally opposing material and i feel annoyed to try to make it work. i had that problem with some Berlinette tracks, but with Thrills its much more integrated. Mabye b/c its less about warmth of emotions than it is about the well...the body, or atleast some other more simple but all consuming aspect of being alive. its all the sex/hunting/building/running/breathing we have to do so much that that might as well just not worry about anything else. atleast this is how i'm feeling it right now.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't find it as austere or forbidding as a lot of people say either. It's moody at times sure, but not in that ever-so-slightly-boring melancholic Mathew Jonson kinda way.

I love 'Naked Rain', those airy, soothing but forceful synths are as satisfying as any point in 'Mandarine Girl' for me. 'She Is With Me' seems underappreciated too... I flipped out completely the first time I heard (a sample of) it. I loved the off-hand description I read somewhere about "she even finds time to break a piano over Autechre's knee" zing!

Clearly I could still write a great deal of crap about this record and what it seems to describe so effortlessly with sound for me. But I'll spare y'all that.

login name (fandango), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

"Clearly I could still write a great deal of crap about this record and what it seems to describe so effortlessly with sound for me. But I'll spare y'all that"

altho prob not apparent, i'm restraining myself too!
and yeah i would say it moody and somewhat emtional too -i don't mean to describe it so ridiculously Ayn Rand? but I think she's celebrating some of those things outwardly.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link

also Naked Rain is GREAT!

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

To me it's a very different sound to the other house/techno I listen to, would it be fair to suggest that although this album is quite faceless and tracky on first impressions, it actually has a real stylistic quirk which really separates it from alot of club music?

I think that might be how I feel about "Thrills".

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Does it separate it? and how? I'm quite interested in that. Donut expressed similar feelings upthread, about how much of a 'listening' album it is. Is it actually hard to play out technically? or just to find the right mood/moment for it?

login name (fandango), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't listen to a lot of house, but the rhythmic feel of "Thrills" seems different to me than a lot of house. More of a techno feel, not as much disco in it. Also the tempo doesn't seem quite right for dancing - more suitable for aerobics or something.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

walking maybe

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link


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