Destroyer - Kaputt (2011)

My review mentions Scritti Politti, nabisco: that sense of a singer reciting a monologue with himself whose soundtrack comprises Toto, Scaggs, and Sylvian. Also: what's that one track which specifically namedrops magazines?

What I love about Green Gartside is how he tosses a lifeline between himself and his listeners yet he's ready to yank it back.

I suppose you're right, but I'm certain there is this half-life that exists where the words placate the sound/vox. What can I say ILM, I come here to learn!

ha i kinda love the way alfred frames everything in such pejorative terms that simply by accepting his framing you cede ground to him

"everything"

EVERYTHING

haha i like that u dispute quantity, but not the main idea of that post

haha well of course -- I have a paradigm to uphold

haha i like that u dispute quantity, but not the main idea of that post

― challopian youtubes (deej), Monday, January 24, 2011 10:31 PM (4 minutes ago)

ha you kinda turned the tables on him tho..."come on, everyth...wait"

Dalek,

Certain words enhance the vox. I do understand what you are saying. Certain words or sentences can easily ruin a song as well. But lyrics do not influence whether or not I choose to like a song in any other way. Good lyrics do improve a tune that I already like though. I don't care for the vox on Kaputt so there's no room for improvement if I knew the lyrics.

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I did not mean to have this many posts to this thread. Sorry yall if it looks like I'm trying to troll here. I just wanted to post one or two cents about this album, see if people agree/disagree, and then bolt.

i liked late-90s Aluminum Group albums that sounded like this

Bless you.

I think the "its songs carefully planned in gesture but meager in structure and development" line from the NYT review really undersells this album. the almost-aleatoric progression of its songs is one of its strengths imo

can i just

Every era has a sound. When considering this, it can be easy to forget that the sound developed as a way to express something.

welcome back, nabisco!!!!

ps- you are needed on the Hyundai car commercial thread

Seriously did not realize that all these years I was the ONLY ONE who had a violent aversion to the sounds Bejar is referencing on this record. I can appreciate him as a lyricist and a songwriter, and can see that there's something to sink your teeth into on this record, but it is dressed in such a way that I just can't stomach it.

The fact that I'm still subscribed to this thread is pure masochism.

Aside from all the signifiers of the 'shiny veneer', the "what does it all mean?" Qs and so forth,
This is a really well performed pop record, like, "Good sax playing!"

Owen P.: truth. The outro on Kara Walker, oh my.

ariel pink reffing steely dan seems a completely weird observation to me. maybe 10cc, the hollies, blue nile, chicago, bread, the carpenters.

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/music-review/destroyer-kaputt great review at tinymixtapes for this album. i wonder what reception this will get in the uk press, or if it will be ignored again?

just queued this up on my ipod.

haven't listened to this in a few days.

I've been waiting for the vinyl.

btw dum q but how do you pronounce bejar's last name

um this is pretty fucking awesome. i love the cheesy tone to it, im a sucker for yacht rock.

I always found Ariel Pink sounded more like Hall and Oates than Steely Dan.

Hall and Oates harmonizing in a burlap sack.

btw dum q but how do you pronounce bejar's last name

i would guess "bay-har" but i'm just guessing

THIS ALBUM IS NOT "CHEESY"
THIS ALBUM IS NOT "CHEESY"
THIS ALBUM IS NOT "CHEESY"
THIS ALBUM IS NOT "CHEESY"
THIS ALBUM IS NOT "CHEESY"
THIS ALBUM IS NOT "CHEESY"
THIS ALBUM IS NOT "CHEESY"

Yachty

no it's "corny"

anyway i have taken it as a challenge to get this girl to dig this, but I feel like time and tide conspire against me

i wonder how this would go over at the bar im working at on saturday night...hahah.

I think the secret is to be unapologetic.

also n/a that's what I was thinkin too

yup, thats usually how i am anyways. you don't like what im playing, get the fuck out.

gbx I won't c&p from 77, but best to heed estela's advice re: lectures being ineffectual etc

ariel pink reffing steely dan seems a completely weird observation to me. maybe 10cc, the hollies, blue nile, chicago, bread, the carpenters.

― plax (ico), Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:38 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

'completely weird'?? im not talking about 'reffing' im talking about just the feel of the production & compositional style, idk, it hits the same spot for me as a listener, & the production sound is 'black cow'-esque

gbx I won't c&p from 77, but best to heed estela's advice re: lectures being ineffectual etc

true true.

im getting kinda tired of the fact that all these reviews ONLY talk about production and cultural touchstones rather than, say, the music?

bejar seemed to anticipate this tho:

"Kaputt by Malaparte, which Bejar has never read… Kara Walker, specifically the lyrics she contributed to the song 'Suicide Demo for Kara Walker'… Chinatown, the neighborhood bordering on Bejar's… Baby blue eyes… 80s Miles Davis… 90s Gil Evans… Last Tango in Paris… Nic Bragg, who played lead guitar on every song, again… Fretless bass… The hopelessness of the future of music… The pointlessness of writing songs for today… V-Drums… The superiority of poetry and plays… And what's to become of film?… The Cocaine Addict… American Communism… Downtown, the neighborhood bordering on Bejar's… The LinnDrum… Avalon and, more specifically, Boys and Girls… The devastated mind of JC/DC, who recorded, produced and mixed this record from fall of 2008 to spring of 2010… The back-up vocals of certain Roy Ayers and Long John Baldry tours… Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence…"

im confused about how u are differentiating the production & cultural touchstones from the music

melody, hooks, lyrics, etc. the "songs" as it were

i mean i know it can be argued that there's nothing new under the sun and everything is a reference to something in the past, but come on

theres more to this record than that

haaa, not that people on this thread need me to say this, but this record is amazing

I, too, publicly endorse this record.

but I know I could never play it to my real friends.

tell them you got the new Toto record.

im on my second listen now, im loving it.

Come to think of it, the more you listen to the Drake, the more the pacing starts to make sense...it's meant to be kind of startling in its subtlety.

No feeling Antebellum at all.

meant for tracks list, sorry folks (could a mod delete it?)

just put on the vinyl~~~~

Now all you need is a doobie..