i hit the gym this morning!
― challopian youtubes (deej), Monday, 24 January 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
jk i didnt make it on time ;_;
shaking yr fist at ilxor does not count as a gym workout iirc
― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 24 January 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
um don't make fun of me but i did a review of this for a local website, it is an "ok" review but i'm not pro muzik critic
http://www.reviler.org/2011/01/06/destroyer-kaputt-four-takes-review/
― dj plain ole m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 January 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
steve ilxor is like jonathan if every music writer on this board is like some liz lemon/jack donaghy hybrid
grady stop trolling
fuck
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, 24 January 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
smelgs that's a nice review & hole ref
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
still haven't heard this record. comes out tomorrow, right? <3 destroyer. he is the funniest man in rock, by far.
― tylerw, Monday, 24 January 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link
thx k3vin and thanks for bringing back a favorite elementary nickname of mine :)
― dj plain ole m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
ill check yr review after work matt, just want 2 say i liked mark r's review in pfork today
― challopian youtubes (deej), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I really am excited to hear this, but sort of worried that I may like the same indie rock record deej does. :/
I was relistening to Trouble In Dreams this afternoon and, while I still think it is his weakest full-length to date, I think it might be growing on me a little. I was just approaching it completely wrong, I think.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link
jeremy hovda is cute!
― plax (ico), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i thought trouble in dreams was great when it came out, but it's probably the weakest. at least i'm not drawn to listen to it as much as the others.
― tylerw, Monday, 24 January 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess I should clarify that I meant weakest post-Thief. I love everything since then, but I have a hard time diving into the stuff prior.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
In it’s own way, it’s as aggressive in its aesthetic as any noise record
I like this, m@tt
― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm deej-policing, way diff from trolling
― gr8080, Monday, 24 January 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link
house of mirrors shit
― challopian youtubes (deej), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link
― dj plain ole m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, January 24, 2011 4:03 PM (29 minutes ago)
haha we talked about this i think - i was smells so it's all good
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
this sounds like Pet Shop Boys. I'm not surprised to see so much ILX luv
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
lol which pet shop boys song?
― just sayin, Monday, 24 January 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link
every Pet Shop Boys song basically. just take their electro backdrop and make it less upbeat and bumpin'. then add a pinch more variety in the form of smooth-jazz or whatever and there you go
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link
if my uncle ellis had a vagina he'd be my aunt elanor rigby
― gr8080, Monday, 24 January 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
doesn't mark post here...? the pfork review made me curious to hear this (even tho I haven't cared about anything this guy has been involved with since Mass Romantic) but then I was kina put off by the weird Death of a Ladies' Man tangent, especially since I disagree with his interpretation of that album (and its cover)
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link
It doesn't sound at all like the Pet Shop Boys -- it comes closest to a couple of David Sylvian's early and mid eighties solo tracks, especially in their use of space and trumpet.
I have detested Bejar for years, and "Bay of Pigs" drove me out of the room, but he has never boasted so many attractive aural surfaces.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
...but he has never boasted so many attractive aural floral surfaces.
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link
That's the gayest sentence I've ever read.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
I was kina put off by the weird Death of a Ladies' Man tangent, especially since I disagree with his interpretation of that album (and its cover)
so true, where did that come from?
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/25/arts/music/25choice.html?_r=1&ref=arts
This guy's writing makes my hair hurt
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link
its pretty goofy to me how self-conscious of the 'cheesiness' some of this writing is. lots of readers -- esp of like the ny times -- might not find it cheesy at all (its not like my dad thinks 'avalon' is cheesy). i mean, its a different move for indie rock i guess, but if u listen to more than just indie rock, its like telling ppl sade is worth listening to ... only if yr writing to a specific swath of ppl is that really a shocking development
― challopian youtubes (deej), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link
iago galdston, i feel like maybe you should get a haircut? for the sake of your own head?
― wee-based god (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
lots of us don't find Sade, Gaucho, and Avalon cheesy either. That's been my problem with the PFM and NYT reviews. It's funny: if you're under thirty, you have far less of a problem identifying the records I've mentioned as legitimate influences than if you grew up in a certain kind of eighties and nineties indie climate.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Taking into consideration my loathing for this man's voice for more than ten years, it's remarkable that I'm listening to it as much as I have been today; it's like the most indie of indie voices finally took seriously my request to listen to more Boz Scaggs.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link
and it's def better than Ariel fucking Pink
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link
This guy put out a MIDI record before, it's not like he's averse to potentially cheesy sonic signifiers.
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link
but now he's learned to sing with them
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link
The only song I think is a total bomb is "Bay of Pigs."
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
good point Alfred. That stuff is part of our generation's discovery of the past and it lacks the vaguely dirty memories and "cheese" associations. My mom heard me playing Badfinger on some recent Christmas trip home and laughed out loud about how I was listening to "bubblegum". I guess, but it's not as if being played alongside now-obscure AM radio dreck in the '70s has any relevance to my "Baby Blue" listening experience, though it certainly does for her.
― skip, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I like Mark Richardson very much but his review had a are-you-for-real poking-finger-into-cheek tone that was bizarre for a guy who I know loves a lot of the music I've mentioned.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Re: all the talk of critical reception: I'd be fascinated to what The Singles Jukebox make of this. d
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Shoo, stray 'd'!
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link
the d denotes your excitement
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link
And a definitely think the 'smooth music' textures are being deployed lovingly and somewhat 'authentically', rather than the lol80s cheeky irony that Pink or the chillwave crew might have.
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont get 'cheeky irony' from pink & i thought chill wave was supposed to be seeped in nostalgia not irony
― challopian youtubes (deej), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link
its ok we all get confused abt the reasons we're not supposed to like music sometimes
― flopson, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― challopian youtubes (deej), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Hmm the point is maybe that the Destroyer record actually has the production value and budget to replicate the 'smooth music' style, and thus it comes off as less of an approximation or self-conscious affect.
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont get 'cheeky irony' from pink
deej otm
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I get "inept" from Ariel Pink.
Like Pink is gleefully aware that he's sneaking these subversive little stories under the coiffured synths...Bejar just sounds regal, he owns it like Fagen or L. Cohen.
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link
the ny times thing talk al stewart "year of the cat" as ref point and that definitely hits it for me, though it never occured to me until i read it
― dj plain ole m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link
He doesn’t seem to be pointing at any of this music out of love or fashion, or at least he doesn’t want us to think so. He seems to be pulling different strands together to make a nice dressing for poems that suggest a comfortable blankness of spirit.
WAHT
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link