Isn't that directly followed with a list of records disproving that idea?
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Also it is more to show the change in hip-hop brewing up. I know gangsta rap had been floating around for a half decade but '92 was really the year NY rap started to get angry imo, which isn't really reflected in Showbiz and AG records.
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Sam, I just wanted to say that obviously you've put a lot of effort to this project, and your writing is a pleasure to read, so keep up the good work!
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 January 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link
:)
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Dunno if you are right though. Listening to Wu-Tang is basically a daily operation, with or without a blog.
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link
My effort so far has p much come down to 'stick a bunch of kung fu flicks on my lovefilm list, find out my copy of the how high soundtrack, order the tao of wu, read the wiki page on the 5% nation'. all of which were done in about 15 minutes.
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link
If you've never seen The 36th Chamber of Shaolin, start there.
― show me your ticks (San Te), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha :) Seems like an important one! Is that where you got your name from? The pace I go through the films I get in the post, I think kung-fu flicks will have an article on the blog just about the time I get around to Cuban Linx 2 and Apollo Kids
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
r u gonna do like hidden darts & blood on the chef's apron and all? id even k what tapes shit like "used to be" came out on first
worried abt u tbh
― zvookster, Monday, 24 January 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
@ahoyhoy - yup, took my name from Gordon Liu's character.
Went thru a phase last year where I spent my days watching 2-3 kung fu movies a day!
― show me your ticks (San Te), Monday, 24 January 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
worried about me?
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i am going to try and do everything! with hidden darts and comps like that i haven't yet decided whether to do things on a basis of when they actually became public or when they got official releases? i am thinking obvious stuff on the time line (all that ghost&cappa post-9/11 stuff shouldn't wait until like 2007 comes to mind) and then leave the rest for official releases
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
i used to bump into these ppl online that seemingly only listened to wu & wu affiliated & wu producers, they always struck me as strange in the extreme so i hope u come back safe. la the darkman has like five mixtapes u know? :D
― zvookster, Monday, 24 January 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha. I listened to them as part of swag cru gangsta grillz, not as a wu-tang thing!
And yeah, I am definitely just going to do wu-affiliates when they were still with the clan. shyheim has released like 12 records but i'm only gonna do the first two etc.
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Also today I have only listened to best coast, sleater-kinney and busta rhymes. oh and i watched the protect ya neck video.
And yeah, I am definitely just going to do wu-affiliates when they were still with the clan
oh rite idk the chronologies like this, i was just thinking wow everything
― zvookster, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link
it's all in the detailed history of a wikipedia page hopper.
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
oh shit shawn wigs doesn't have a wikipedia page, dunno how i am going to cope.
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
92 was really the year NY rap started to get angry imo, which isn't really reflected in Showbiz and AG records.
― travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, January 24, 2011 6:22 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
the title track off 'runaway slave' is p angry iirc!
Livin in the slums with the bums, the rats and the stray cats / dogs with the rabies lil babies is havin babies
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
wow yeah maybe should listen again, has been years tbh
― supply 'n d-man (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link
92 was really the year NY rap started to get angry imo
Tim Dog called, said I Ain't Havin' It
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
tim dog was angry since he was a sperm
― supply 'n d-man (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
5% != Islam!
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I can kinda see a hoy hoy's point about NY post-the rise of gangsta rap. there really was a change in tone with the dawn of the Wu/Biggie/Jay-Z/Nas era
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
which is not to say that Showbiz or Kool G Rap or whoever didn't have angry tracks just that in general yeah I think things got a lot grimmer
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5CR7ODqsR6g/S1tO_aVQW5I/AAAAAAAAA5g/jrlPLfdGviM/s400/Tim+Dog+-+Fuck+Compton.jpg
― alpaca bowl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i think theres an element of truth to it for sure, i remember trying to write some piece about that at one pt a few years back & eventually giving up because i kept finding examples that would make things more & more complex
what inspired at the time was lord finesse's career & how he transitioned from the more lighthearted high-energy rap of his early career to pessimistic jams like 'skits' -- i think there's something to be said here too about the narratives in tracks like 'skits' or biggie's 'things done changed' where there is an idealized past that is destroyed by violence / loss of innocence etc .... parents used to take care of us / now they even fuckin scared of us etc.
its like decade-later echoes of crack
related to this, then, is the change in tone between 90s gangster rap & 00s, where you go from kids who remember life before crack hits (or at the v. least, their older siblings do) to kids who are the actual crack baby generation & how the mentality changes from that
― challopian youtubes (deej), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds like a piece that oughtta get written, contradictions and complexities aside
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Did I imply it 5%ism is Islam and not an offshoot Rev? My bad if I did.
And yeah deej, I'm not a good enough writer to go hard into that, but i'd love to see someone attempt it.
― supply 'n d-man (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
enjoying this btw sam
― Cars and Freedom (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
ty
― supply 'n d-man (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i tweeted about this is how awesome it is
― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Starting to feel like I could write a book on Protect Ya Neck alone. When the hell is that 33 1/3 ETWT book coming out? 100 odd pages doesn't seem enough - i may take all of February to do the debut at this rate.*
*I won't, I need to find a new job and move, my 15 minutes a day blogging is about as much as I can spare.
― supply 'n d-man (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link
By the way I have decided I am going to do Monday-to-Monday on Enter the Wu Tang but only have six pieces in mind (Production, Sound effects and radio rips, References, 2 days of breaking down each song and where it all lead i.e. individual deals and the 5 year plan, wu-gambinos&liquid swords&horrorcore side and other breakdowns that came after etc.) - if anyone would like to chip in with something they'd like to write or would like me to write about? I'd ask Whiney or one of you awesome paid critics but you know this is a tumblr with 10 followers so if just any other ilxor been stung by a killa-bee?
― supply 'n d-man (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
love it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JEbnHHYDao
― I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Friday, 15 July 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://66.media.tumblr.com/3581dee801896799dfe9c7b323cf07f4/tumblr_oeyoiqAhzm1r707vso1_500h.jpg
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link
omg
― ¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link
jings
― doo-doo diplomacy (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link
XD
Thought this revive was gonna be about Azealia Banks getting in a fight with Russell Crowe and when I wondered out loud "what dummy got those two together" it turned out to be the RZA.
― how's life, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link
https://harpers.org/archive/2017/09/public-enemy/
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 17 August 2017 11:03 (six years ago) link
i just wanna say i've been listening to wu tang forever in my car this week and it still bangs
― the late great, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
its aged well imo
― Spottie, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
if anything it sounds better to me than when i first heard it because i've unhooked it from the expectations i had after hearing 36 chambers
― the late great, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
yeah it's a little slack towards the end maybe but that's about it
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
lots of outstanding stuff on wu-tang forever
― marcos, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
are yall gonna join in on my wu poll? im thinking about starting it soon.
― Spottie, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
oooh i will!
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
wait waht did we not already do that?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
of course I will vote in a tracks poll but jesus christ contemplating the list of eligible tracks is kind of nightmarish
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
yeah ive been mulling over what to do for the parameters for a couple years lol
― Spottie, Thursday, 17 August 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
otherwise shit am i gonna hafta sift through all the shit RZA has done?
I would say all that shit is eligible but that doesn't mean I'm going to listen to it. If someone wants to throw all their votes to a Sunz of Man track that's on them.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
honestly imo the bigger question is do guest spots count
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
all my points to rza / kp remix of jon spencer + beck
― the late great, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
Greyhound pt 2 is remixed by the GZA w Killah Priest rapping on it. Beck and the RZA are not on it
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link
(it is good tho)
oh yeah that's right, beck is on pt 1
― the late great, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
oh wait no he's on flavor
shit i need to listen to experimental remixes again, so good but i've got it all jumbled up in my head
― the late great, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
it's hard to suss out who's an "affiliate" though...cuz like some could consider Cappadonna an affiliate but others would consider him fully vested in in Killa Bee 401k
or like Killah Priest? that's a tough call...Shyheim is an affiliate though
actually I would limit it to KP, Cap and then only proper Wu or official Wu members solo albums? otherwise shit am i gonna hafta sift through all the shit RZA has done?
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:48 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is about where ive landed. I def include killah priest and Cap and probably sunz of man too. Ima get this rolled out probably tonight or tomorrow then. I'll do noms first so start thinking about that, I'll preload some classic tracks. pumped to have some of my fav posters in on this.
― Spottie, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link
how do you feel about votes for Mariah Carey's Fantasy remix or the Method Man/Redman collab albums
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
do we include gravediggaz?
― nomar, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
or my number 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okpp83_RIcE
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:36 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― nomar, Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:37 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes and probably yes
― Spottie, Thursday, 17 August 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
meth and red colabs for sure imo
WU-TANG CLAN — Artist Poll — Nominations, Discussions, Parameters (noms close Sept 17)
― Spottie, Thursday, 7 September 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link
All satellites should be allowed, shout out to La The Darkman "spring water"
― brimstead, Thursday, 7 September 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link