Wait, no, it was on this thread:
New bohemianism: beards, pickling beets, Fleet Foxes, rye...
― nabisco, Thursday, 4 December 2008 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link
dude we already went over how there aren't any internal rhymes in that verse
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 4 December 2008 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Ok, Shakey, when the words "follow" and "swallow" die, you can show up at their funerals and tell them they didn't rhyme
― nabisco, Thursday, 4 December 2008 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Sorry n you go to bat for "indie" bands in so many threads I can't keep track. I like that verse though and I like this band a fair amount they are nice to listen to in the winter.
― :) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Thursday, 4 December 2008 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, I don't care if you want to call that part of the rhyme scheme or if you just don't like the verse or whatever, it's remarkably unimportant, but I will be baffled by anyone who denies that there is not some attention to how words feel in the mouth involved in:
- scARRves of RRRed tied RRound their thRRoats
or can't follow what's going on with the S, R, and T sounds in this:
- snow red as strawberries in the summertime
xpost - Max I post to like 2 ILM threads a month, you have me confused with someone else
― nabisco, Thursday, 4 December 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha, pardon me "I will be baffled by anyone who denies that there IS some attention etc."
i was sort of joking since ur two ilm threads were the fleet foxes thread and the vampire weekend thread.....................................
― :) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Thursday, 4 December 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link
that's called alliteration nabisco.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 4 December 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
internal rhyming = following/followed, red/heads, fallin'/fall (leaning heavy on that one), go/snow (2nd iteration, that one too).
― contenderizer, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
um, rhymes that fall at the end of a phrase (go/snow, etc.) are by definition not internal...? The "following/swallowed" one is the only internal rhyme and even that's kinda stretching it since its just the first two syllables in each word that rhyme.
I dunno why I'm even arguing about this, I've never even heard this song I just find the lyrics stupid written down.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't like the song, the lyrics or the band, either. But you're pushing way too hard on a narrow, overly limited definition of what internal rhyming is, or can be. Snow/go in the 5th and 6th lines is traditional end rhyming. The repetition of "snow" in the 8th line is internal rhyming that picks up on it. As if any of this matters...
― contenderizer, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha yeah I'll let it go
lets go back to talking about AC/DC
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't really agree with the sound vs. songs distinction - I think that the songs are interesting (sometimes interesting for how they meander and fall apart, but still interesting) as much as the sound. Though perhaps when it comes to the lyrics, I would agree with a sound vs. sense distinction. As Nabisco rightly points out, there is a lot of craft going into how the lyrics sound (rhyme, rhythm, alliteration, etc.), though the sense of the words sometimes verges on the hippy-dippy. That doesn't bother me too much though.
― o. nate, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Shakey am I tripping or did you seriously just try to tell me that swallowing/followed is better categorized as alliteration?!?!?!
― nabisco, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
no I was referring to ^^^this, which is alliteration
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I love Blue Ridge Mountains. But then again I love all songs that remind me of "Billie Jean."
― Turangalila, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
nabisco otm about white winter hymnal
― Turangalila, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, yes, that is alliteration. Not sure why you felt a need to point that out to me, but yes, that is true.
If you really wrap your mouth around it, there's also something nice going on with the sequence of vowel sounds, too, which kind of open up gradually -- ah (scarves), eh (red), ie (tied), ow (round), oh (throats), mostly with the Rs dropping between them.
I think this writing is kind of an, umm, outlier in terms of Fleet Foxes lyrics, though, because as soon as I noticed it I actually started googling around to double-check that they hadn't lifted the lyrics from a poem somewhere; it stuck out to me that way. But listening after that, there's some decent attention to sound in some of the others, too, which ... it seems like a rarity with lyrics.
― nabisco, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link
- scARRves of RRRed tied RRound their thRRoatsor can't follow what's going on with the S, R, and T sounds in this:- snow red as strawberries in the summertimeno I was referring to ^^^this, which is alliteration― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, December 4, 2008 1:37 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark
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― k3vin k., Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link
are performing on SNL??
― choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Friday, 9 January 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Blue Ridge Moutain cannot be denied
― baaderonixx, Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link
with rosario dawson :D
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 10 January 2009 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link
seems like an odd fit for the show. i don't like them at all, but trying tbf i don't really see this as being too appealing/fun for anyone not already a fan.
― choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link
They've already played a couple of the late night shows; this really shouldn't come as a shocka to anyone.
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link
dude, a lot of bands play late night shows. they're something like the sixth indie band ever to play SNL, which is basically the holy grail of late-night shows
― choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:33 (fifteen years ago) link
by the same token it probably wasn't too appealing/fun for anyone not already a fan of
My Morning JacketVampire WeekendWilcoFiestSpoonArcade FireThe ShinsDeath Cab For CutieModest Mouse (in the halcyon days of 2004)
So, um, yeah, in the past three years indie bands of a certain size have gotten to play SNL. Why you would call them an "odd fit" I don't know.
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Their s/t is the best thing to listen to while driving around rural Michigan after a big snowstorm.
― redmond, Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I hope you ran over Bon Iver
― da croupier, Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Wisconsin.
― Matos W.K., Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link
MMJ - appeared on the show to promote evil urges, which debuted at #9 on the charts.VW - appeared on the show to promote vampire weekend, which debuted at #17 and was everywhere by then (march). certainly comparable to FF in that regard, but i'd argue that VW are easier to like and better suited for such a showWilco - appeared after sky blue sky, which debuted at #4, their second top-10 charting album in a row. YHF went gold.Feist - appeared in support of the reminder, which debuted at #16 and had a song in about every commercial on TV at that point and was up for numerous mainstream awards. cannot seem to find ratings for SNL, but i'd be willing to bet they dipped for this show. could be wrongSpoon - appeared in support of ga ga ga ga ga, which debuted at #10Arcade Fire - appeared to promote neon bible which debuted at #2Shins - appeared to promote wincing the night away, which debuted at #2, not to mention the garden state pushDCFC - appeared to promote plans, which peaked at #4Modest Mouse - appeared to promote the already-platinum good news for people who like bad news
fleet foxes' self-titled album debuted at #67 in the US. they've been getting a lot of love recently in just about every music publication, but they're easily the most obscure of any of the acts mentioned above, and probably the "weirdest". i'm not saying they shouldnt play the show or that no one is going to enjoy it, i'm just saying that from what i recall there isn't really a precedent for this kind of band, so it caught me by surprise
― choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 02:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't play this record too much anymore, but when i do i'll try and play it all the way through, because it's somehow never immediately lulls me back in each time i return to it. i like to really establish a rapport with the textures, sounds and moods, and i find this takes some involved listening.
― Charlie Howard, Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't think I'd like these guys, but you know what, I listened to a few tracks on YouTube tonight and they're not bad, rather pleasant actually, soothing, pastoral.
― ilxor, Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:08 (fifteen years ago) link
so many adjectives to describe these guys
― choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link
and you chose those
by kevink. at 06:35 PM on 01/08/09 Reply@cookiedough: lol, you're kind missing the point entirely, but w/e.
RHCPDMBdashboard confessional (basically any nu-emo)fleet foxes
― you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link
:D
― choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link
the album's doing pretty well plus no one is out promoting anything. you wanna see lady gaga or some shit?
― you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:43 (fifteen years ago) link
i can't ride for this album but i liked them when i saw them live and im sure this will be pleasant enough
― you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i was being kinda unnecessarily harsh i guess. it's not my thing of course, but like i said, i dont see a bearded dude falsettoing on a chair flying with a lot of the audience.
― choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:48 (fifteen years ago) link
you know who watches snl regularly? ppl like my parents who are into http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5124YM060WL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
― you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:50 (fifteen years ago) link
lol, fair. we'll see!
― choke on my mess of a schlaporito (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't understand -- this band on SNL is the same band that released the Fleet Foxes album (and Sun Giant EP), right? Cause it's like a totally different, not quite as good, band.
― Mordy, Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:45 (fifteen years ago) link
omg i forgot today was saturday! fucking packing
― Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link
lol this is 'fun'
― Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link
lol their one dude looks like a hairier jeff ross
― Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:49 (fifteen years ago) link
What the hell is with people sucking on SNL as of late? (Kanye, Taylor Swift, Fleet Foxes...) Are these just bad live performers? Or has something started sucking at the SNL studio?
― Mordy, Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:49 (fifteen years ago) link
look at me im awkward lol! arghh i hate this band so much >:|
― Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:50 (fifteen years ago) link
The first song was fucking horrible.
The second song was really nice but I wouldn't buy their album based on it.
VERDICT: FAIL
― ^likes black girls (HI DERE), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:51 (fifteen years ago) link
also I've only seen her a couple of times but Taylor Swift appears to be incapable of singing live
― ^likes black girls (HI DERE), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:52 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, i dunno, ive warmed to taylor's vocal limitations (same with Ye), because for me it's not rly the focal point of her music
― Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:53 (fifteen years ago) link