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Tempted by the 160GB but it might be overkill.

baaderonixx, Saturday, 8 September 2007 09:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Tempted by the 160GB but it might be overkill.

I have 2.5TB of encoded audio and video. 160GB is not overkill.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 8 September 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Quite honestly, Elvis, I honestly expected you to have *more* than that! But I'll give it a few days.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 September 2007 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Elvis, you know there's a distinction between an attic, a wardrobe, a suitcase and a wallet.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 September 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Fuck this is a long thread. Without searching all the way through it. Would now be a good time to but a new iMac?

Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 8 September 2007 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Well they just came out with new ones, so yeah - get a snazzy new one, or an old one at bargain rates.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 September 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't give me options! Are the new ones any good? I mean they look good, but I know nothing.

Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 8 September 2007 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

MY $100 8 GB IPHONE WILL BE DELIVERED WITHIN A FEW HOURS

HI DERE, Saturday, 8 September 2007 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Ned I believe the spec says that the new iMacs are 1) harder, 2) better, 3) faster, and finally 4) stronger.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 September 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Note how I choose to ignore the deluded boasts above.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 September 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

A WINNER IS ME

HI DERE, Saturday, 8 September 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I just asked my parents for that ipod touch. In Japan it's much cheaper (compared to Belgium). HURRAH!

We can't use the iphone here, I think. Alas. Or maybe thank my wallet. heh

stevienixed, Saturday, 8 September 2007 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

i saw my first iphones in line here at TIFF. i felt like such a hick.

s1ocki, Saturday, 8 September 2007 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

rof ftban

luriqua, Sunday, 9 September 2007 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

1^8

luriqua, Sunday, 9 September 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

new imacs kind of crappy. Hate the glossy screen - even in a normal environment - windows, overhead light, but no giant fluorescents or anything, it has more glare than any monitor I can remember (including ancient CRTs).

milo z, Sunday, 9 September 2007 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link

oh come on man i'm at work and shit xpost

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 9 September 2007 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread makes me want to get all Ted Kazinsky.

OTM.

Abbott, Sunday, 9 September 2007 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link

WAIT how did Dan get the $100 iphone.

Im definitely getting one in november

also:

Unlike the iPhone, which is locked down at the carrier's request, third-party applications will not be restricted on the Touch

you can buy unlocked iphones on ebay. one seller said it was working fine on t-mobile. the only thing not working was the readable voicemail but thats only because t-mobile dont have that ability yet. these unlocked phones are going for over $1000 though. How hard is it to unlock a phone? I unlocked my t-mobile phones just by calling customer service and saying i was going overseas and needed to use the phone with an international carriers sim. they emailed the code straight to me.

sunny successor, Sunday, 9 September 2007 02:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I got it through the same site that I am trying to get a free jacket from via this thread: Who wants to help me win a jacket?

HI DERE, Sunday, 9 September 2007 03:17 (sixteen years ago) link

So anyone going to be buying an iPhone @£269 and £35 a month?

Ed, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 09:17 (sixteen years ago) link

some sort of hacked ipod touch looks a better deal for downloading pr0ngoogle maps :(

DG, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link

How hard is it to unlock a phone?

It's a lot harder than it is with normal phones with an iPhone, but the ($50) software-based hacks that have finally come out do work, apparently. Problem is that Apple have to show AT&T that they are trying to stop it, because of the deal exclusivity and revenue-sharing. The next iPhone update could make the unlocked phones not work. The hackers would probably get around it again, but it's not ideal. Of course, you could just not install the update, but there are new features/bug fixes that people presume are around the corner.

However, a bigger problem with unlocking is, you still have to pay the monthly AT&T tariff for the minimum of two years, right? There's no way out of that.

Alba, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

There is a pay as you go tariff as well. There are also free tools for unlocking the iPhone.

Ed, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 11:34 (sixteen years ago) link

unlimited data and free cloud wifi is not bad for £35. hmm.

stet, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 11:58 (sixteen years ago) link

funny that this is being widely reported as a £900 phone when you're still getting your minutes/texts/data (albeit not many minutes/texts and bad coverage on the data)… it's not common for other phones to be decried as £700 phones when you have to sign up for two year contract to get it for 'free'… thinking about it in these terms, £700 for yr phone needs (which you'd be paying anyway, if you're on a contract) + £200 for the ipod touch bits of it + a £70 premium for all the other niceties (ability to add calendar items, visual voicemail, all the features distinguishing it from the ipod touch…)

it's not THAT bad... but yes still steep and I won't be buying one

czn, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link

They said this tariff would be available to all 02 customers though.

Ed, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link

How much is the pay-as-you-go version?

Alba, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I reckon there is unlikely to be one in the UK. In the US it is the same price as the contract version.

Ed, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

However, a bigger problem with unlocking is, you still have to pay the monthly AT&T tariff for the minimum of two years, right? There's no way out of that.

nope, you can avoid that. uk terms look pretty reasonable to me - i was paying £30/month last year for 200 mins, 200 sms, unlimited gprs.

toby, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

How can you avoid it?

Alba, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not that I think the 02 tariff is especially bad (though I would miss the T-Mobile's £7.50 a month unlimited data for browsing) but if you *do* want to unlock your phone to chose your own carrier I'm interested how you get out of the 02 contract.

Alba, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Here in the US, people have had great luck signing up through AT&T and then immediately calling them and canceling service. As long as its done within the first month, the contact is canceled without issue.

If O2 doesn't have a similar policy, I imagine you could just buy a US iphone and unlock it.

Is O2 EDGE support as bad as I've heard it to be?

Jacob, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link

not even 30% coverage on launch day. They only started turning it on a few days ago. It has been, till now, all about 3G here.

Ed, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link

There were various workarounds for not signing up - if you entered a fake SSN then you were offered PAYG, which you could cancel at once. Or you could even avoid that entirely via some Windows hack due to DVDJon, I believe.

I would be v wary of using it unlocked with another carrier, as I'd be surprised if Apple doesn't relock them with another update soon. Also I'd miss visual voicemail, I suspect.

Any word on whether US iPhones will work on O2? As ever the exchange rate would make that attractive. Also, are they 0 subsidy, as in the US? We were able to sign up to AT&T, get free phones, sell them on eBay, and only then activate our iPhones, which saved us over $400 between us - I wonder if something similar will work in the UK?

though I would miss the T-Mobile's £7.50 a month unlimited data for browsing

O2 has unlimited data too though, right?

toby, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, does it? Cool. Well maybe I'll sign up.

I don't understand how the phone company doesn't just have the right to demand the (discounted) phone back if you cancel immediately.

Alba, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

in the discounted case - you can't cancel immediately. are you talking about what i did?

toby, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=978356

czn, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 12:01 (sixteen years ago) link

don't all fkn run down there and buy them but I just phoned the regent st store and was told they have ipod touches and they're selling them

czn, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

so ive had an iphone for a week now. i like it a lot. the only compliants i have are no MMS (the sidekick doesnt have this either - so lame), you cant store photos from webpages or your email, no instant messaging (not that big a deal), and it seems like no ability to see java apps on webpages which I kind of assumed it would have.

maybe there are ways to hack this stuff.

oh and im not a huge fan of safari either.

sunny successor, Friday, 21 September 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

the wifi receiver on the touch seems pretty weak nonetheless better than lugging a laptop I imagine.

czn, Sunday, 23 September 2007 10:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm certainly interested -- hell, i've been interested since apple first announced the thing -- but i'm in no hurry. i'll see how stet and alba get on first.

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 23 September 2007 11:12 (sixteen years ago) link

its pretty good tbh but annoyingly crippled in certain respects and continuing a fine mac tradition boy does it get warm while surfing

czn, Sunday, 23 September 2007 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm thinking of getting a Macbook (the cheapest version) at some stage in November. Questions:

1. Is this likely to come with Leopard or will I have to buy a new OS a while later down the line?
2. Are they likely to upgrade the Macbook models anytime soon?
3. Are there any problems with Macbooks? I have heard they can be hot and noisy - how hot and how noisy?
4. Is there any point in getting AppleCare? I am suspicious of extended warranties, and the cost adding on another 25% to the price of the laptop doesn't make me think that this is going to be any less dispensible.

webber, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 02:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, another one:

5. Will there be any problems integrating a Mac into a wireless home network that is otherwise full of Windows PCs?

webber, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Last one, I promise:

6. Worth the buy?

webber, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

macbooks seems ridiculously overpriced. why in particular do you want a mac?

sunny successor, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 02:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Is there any point in getting AppleCare? I am suspicious of extended warranties, and the cost adding on another 25% to the price of the laptop doesn't make me think that this is going to be any less dispensible.

I think so. What convinced me was when I ruined a perfectly good year-old iBook by dropping it on its (connected) power supply. It was mere days out of the possibility of Applecare, which would have covered it totally. It's now weighting down some shit in my closet.

Also, Applecare is the BEST consumer support in the industry, bar none.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 03:02 (sixteen years ago) link

6. Worth the buy?

Hard to say. Either Macs "work" for you or they don't. If you are type of person to make lists of features and compare MHz and a bunch of nerdy shit, then you should get a PC. If you like to play games on yr computer, get a PC. If you need maximal interoperability with all kinds of computer hardware and software, get a PC.

If, on the other hand, the Mac computing experience appeals to you, then it's a non-question. That's how I am. Since 2001, I've owned over 10 Macs and one PC, the latter of which sits in a closet without a display or a keyboard running a few development databases.

I'm thinking of getting rid of the PC.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link

re: Applecare, buy on Ebay. Lots of people selling Applecare for half of what Apple itself charges.

I got Applecare for my Mac Pro for $75 - brand new, still shrinkwrapped and Apple accepted the registration number without incident. Dunno if it fell off the back of a delivery truck or what, but I don't care.

milo z, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 03:10 (sixteen years ago) link


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