Election (1999)

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jeezus, Payne & Taylor really did (co-)write Chuck & Larry. Have they disowned the result?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

ending of T3 v ending of About Schmidt

Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

obviously Jurassic Park 4 is going to be the best movie ever you guys

blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

lost world ending is garbage but theres goldblum & the seriously exciting trailer/cliff scene

t3 is better than all these movies though really

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

you'd figure after sideways being pretty successful, payne wouldn't have to crank out shit* like 'chuck and larry', which makes me think he really wanted to do it.

*even if one thinks sideways is "shit", it is certainly a different kind of "shit" than chuck and larry

Gukbe, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYy0H1wuMYA

latebloomer, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

payne disowned chuck & larry after sandler came on, insisting it was 'sandlerized' - his o.g. ending was the two dudes actually falling in love

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Nicholson's remark at the time that he found a way to play Schmidt by combing his hair a certain style illustrates just how shallow his/Payne's approach was.

It's very, very common for actors to find their way with little things like this. What Nicholson said he did here is called "working from the outside in" and it's not a superficial way to approach a character.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

played by dan and slocki xp

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Nicholson's remark at the time that he found a way to play Schmidt by combing his hair a certain style illustrates just how shallow his/Payne's approach was what a hilarious motherfucker Jack really is.

blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Morbius, would you rather have to watch the Wire or Chuck & Larry?

Jordan, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

It's very, very common for actors to find their way with little things like this. What Nicholson said he did here is called "working from the outside in" and it's not a superficial way to approach a characte

Yeah, I know, the Brits do it all the time, but it didn't work here.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

payne disowned chuck & larry after sandler came on, insisting it was 'sandlerized' - his o.g. ending was the two dudes actually falling in love

More here:
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/07/payne_and_taylo.php

jaymc, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

The only time that approach has worked for Jack is in Prizzi's Honor.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Damn it, why do you people have to be entertaining on a day when I have so much work?

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I know, the Brits do it all the time, but it didn't work here.

uh, what?

gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe the greatest thing about this movie is that all of the main characters remain reasonably likeable throughout and i found it quite easy to sympathise with them all fairly evenly.

OTM - everybody in Election does stupid/wrong shit and is fairly delusional, but each is also humanized and made sympathetic at key points in the film.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

here meaning, in this movie, or in america? xp

gff, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Uh, pretty sure he meant the movie, otherwise he would have said "doesn't".

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

meaning on ILX

blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I know, the Brits do it all the time, but it didn't work here.

uh, what?

The Brits do the outside-in "character-building" approach more often.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

payne disowned chuck & larry after sandler came on, insisting it was 'sandlerized' - his o.g. ending was the two dudes actually falling in love

More here:
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/07/payne_and_taylo.php

-- jaymc, Thursday, February 7, 2008 9:37 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

that's not what it says there

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah i just heard that, i guess its not actually true

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

PANCAKES

Mr. Que, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

i was confusing it with the night court season finale

and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

that shit was b-a-n-a-n-a-s

remy bean, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

charles robinson rapin' laroquette with a gavel and a clown wig

remy bean, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Getting raped with a clown wig: C/D

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

that's a classic "didn't know whether to laugh or to cry" scenario

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

yes

Mr. Que, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link

clown wig started out as a merkin on the end of the gavel but didn't know where to stop

remy bean, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.my-magic-store.com/product/images/clown_wig.gif

Mommy!
Fuck it!

HI DERE, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link

yo 'chuck and larry' isn't like A MILLION MILES from 'citizen ruth' and as fer possible 'they fall in love' ending -- payne and taylor copped out on ending 'ruth' definitively amirite?

it's not a great film.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link

did it originally end with ruth falling in love with the fetus and making out with it?

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link

in a gay, gay way

remy bean, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

ew

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 February 2008 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

homophobic much

s1ocki, Friday, 8 February 2008 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno, sexual relations with a fetus is pretty gross no matter how you slice it

latebloomer, Friday, 8 February 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

er, perhaps "slice it" was a poor choice of words

latebloomer, Friday, 8 February 2008 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"Since I grew up without a dad, you might assume, psychologically, I was looking for a father figure. But that had nothing to do with it at all. It was just that Dave was so strong, and he made me feel so safe and protected..."

latebloomer, Friday, 8 February 2008 06:32 (sixteen years ago) link

this movie still brings the lols

latebloomer, Friday, 8 February 2008 06:33 (sixteen years ago) link

how miscarriage is a 'copout' I'm not sure

Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 February 2008 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

line latebloomer quoted ftw

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 8 February 2008 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

meh

centibutt hz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 September 2012 05:06 (eleven years ago) link

what was that whole Happiness/Very Bad Things/Election circa 1999 thing where just like exponentially shitty things happen to people in the suburbs

centibutt hz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 September 2012 05:08 (eleven years ago) link

election is nothing like those other two you munch

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 September 2012 08:48 (eleven years ago) link

I'd be happy to discuss that with you, Whiney, but I'm busy searching for old ILB threads to revive so I can be all, "Baseball? Whatever."

This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 September 2012 09:18 (eleven years ago) link

http://bestjamaica.com/images/aloe-vera.jpg

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 September 2012 09:26 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

Such a classic. One of the only movies that makes my skin crawl. New Criterion remaster looks fantastic.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 05:30 (six years ago) link


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