Rage Against the Machine : Classic or Dud

So for me (and some of my friends), it was a very influencial record. To bad it really really sucks.

You talk like this at parties, don't you?

I thought RATM had some interesting grooves and riffs, but Zac always spoiled things for me. There seemed to be a conscious decision of "I can't sing OR rap, so I'll split the difference with this spoken-word thing, and make just enough oblique hip-hop references that people refer to me as a rapper".

See, this is a judgment I'm all for.

As far as the music, "Evil Empire" has always been my favourite. "The Battle of Los Angeles" has some enjoyable moments, but it sounds like a band that had pretty much run out of new ideas. The highly-regarded first album always sounded a bit awkward to me. The "hip hop" was grafted somewhat artificially on the "rock". You can listen to it and almost hear Tom and Zack fighting about what direction the song should take. On "Evil Empire" they found their sound. It's tighter, and sounds more like RATM than a collage of influences. It was one of my favourite albums of '96, and although I don't play it much anymore, when my iPod randomly plays one of the tracks off of it, I find that they still sound alright.

So they're doing the big European festivals next year then. Oh well.

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RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE TO HEADLINE
Rock Am Ring AND Rock Im Park FESTIVALS

Rage Against The Machine are back and have confirmed their headline appearances.

After a longer absence the band will finally be back at Ring & Park,
after delivering legendary gigs in 1994, 1996 and the year 2000.
More Info coming soon!!

Play Dates:
Rock Am Ring - June 6th
Rock Im Park - June 7th
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they had some wicked mosh pit riffs

Several years on, I find myself enjoying "Killing (In The Name Of)" again.

their s/t was one of the first cds i ever bought.

i actually still like them a fair amount, but i dont think any of their shit is as good as

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never a dud single, albums all pretty solid - hard to think of another '90s superstar rock act that has held up as well

i got pepper sprayed at the DNC in 2000. so DUD

not spent much time with the album as a whole, but 'people of the sun' and 'Bulls On Parade' still sound phenomenal. love their first and third LPs too.

sorry, i meant i hadn't spent much time with 'evil empire', their second.

evil empire is actually pretty good, it's their most tightly wound and pissed-off sounding album.

Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites.
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites.
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites.
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites.
Come on!

Yeah! Come on!

FUCK YOU, I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!
FUCK YOU, I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!

as incisive as it is catchy. you go girl!

I enjoy humiliating creepy CG Tom Morello in Guitar Hero.

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they're the chosen whites
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they're the chosen whites
they're the chosen whites
they're the chosen whites
they're the chosen whites
they're the chosen whites
they're the chosen whites
they're the chosen whites
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dud. Morello's riffs were occasionally catchy but often were extremely boring and unimaginative, Zach's flow stunk, and his voice was annoying.

Content-wise it's nothing I couldn't have gotten from Noam Chomsky

Killing in the Name of and Bulls on Parade were kinda fun tho

haha you've got a bullet in your fucking head

Oh MAN does this group suck. They've ridden the SAME three songs and have made the same album out of them THREE times. And their rich, privileged white fans eat it up, yo. Spare me.

would love to see this rhythm section put to good use

what would that possibly be, though?

it was a very influencial record. To bad it really really sucks.

pls put this on the reissue sticker (whenever that happens)

someone puts on rage songs at the gym in the morning and like holy shit they were awesome weren't they.

they have aged really well to my ears. i was not a fan at the time. that kind of thing was not my speed. but god they sound refreshing in a playlist of .. whatever new aggressive trash kids like in 2020.

i was feeling very "rage against the machine" yesterday, haven't listened to em in years but maybe i should.

Renegades is (mostly) extremely fun imo. underrated!

Their cover of "Renegades of Funk" is pretty awesome.

Renegades of Funk is a great gym song.

I think Renegades contains the only songs I like playing by them. Their hip hop covers - Eric B. & Rakim's "Microphone Fiend", Volume 10's "Pistol Grip Pump", EPMD's "I'm Housin'", but specially Cypress Hill's "How I Could Just Kill a Man" and AB’s “Renegades of Funk - are all fun to listen to imho.

^^^gets it

I definitely wished that Prophets of Rage had leaned into doing more Cypress and PE stuff in RATM style

Renegades is such a great album

Battle of Los Angeles my other fave

Not exactly what we had in mind https://t.co/RydKGCk9RA

— Tom Morello (@tmorello) November 7, 2020

loool