NIN -- _Year Zero_

whatchew talkin 'bout, "Only" was one of the best songs on the album! though i guess the lyrics do kinda blow.

i agree Reznor's never been a great lyricist, in fact he's probably gotten worse. but if you can't get over bad lyrics i can't help you!

oh COME ON

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DYq3NPD7TVk&mode=related&search=

Sometimes, only sometimes...

It's one of the most obvious things he took from Depeche, actually.

xpost Well yeah Dan but that describes about two million other lyricists don't it? It doesn't take a rare genius to write naive poetry! But like I'm saying, Martin and Trent are coming from completely different worlds of naive poetry!

the combination of standard sex and death tropes handled via emotional bombast as well as sometimes forced and usually pretty straightforward rhymes. Neither are by any stretch of the imagination complicated in their lyrical vocabulary.

But I just think that's a really really loose connection when we're talking about Martin Gore's lyrics being the most obvious thing that Trent Reznor took from DM. I guess in the context of industrial/synth pop Trent's lyrics are closer to Depeche's than, say, Skinny Puppy's. But in a wider context I don't think it's any surprise that two grown-up angsty teenagers can write sex/death tropes with straightforward rhymes and uncomplicated lyrical vocabulary without one directly borrowing from the other.

I said *one* of the most obvious things. Not the sole one, not the most important one. You're looking for an overriding connection I did not argue, and I'm starting to get frustrated with this willful misreading, frankly.

This describes almost any NIN song. Dude's lyrics are atrocious, but I'm not going to fault the guy. They sound like the bad diary-entry monosyllabics that a 13-year-old would find amazing. And--guess what--that's who the target audience is! So, more ["YOU KNOW ME... I HATE EVERYONE!] power to him. (PS, I found his lyrics amazing when I was 13)

I don't get the lyrics issue at all. What do you think about vocals in a language you don't understand?

Seriously, would you want a whole album about how you're too busy playing Halo 3 to go score with models?

WAHT

I'm by no means a NIN fan, haven't even heard all of With Teeth, but "Only" fucking rules. It's like Trent's version of LCD Soundsystem.

Who else would?

Although I guess "Emerald Aether" wasn't really so much a remix as a proper album. Or a plane crash with no survivors.

Well, if nothing else, you can make your own:

The actual title of this album is Y34RZ3R0R3M1X3D. The DVD-Rom contains every track from Year Zero in multi-track format (Mac and PC). Perhaps for the first time, the master multi-tracks for every recording on a major album are being made available to the public. The tracks are pre-formatted for Apple GarageBand and Ableton Live (Mac or PC). The DVD-ROM also adds the demo version of Ableton Live (Mac or PC) and generic WAVE files at 16 bit 44K that can be loaded into any audio editor.

What I hope and presume this means -- yes, it's *your* chance for Trent Reznor a capellas to be mashed-up over dink-synth-pop loops. Be on the cutting edge of 2001!

I admire the guy for everything but his (recent) music.

Hopefully it's pulled off better than that Nurse With Wound "remix it yourself" experiment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y34RZ3R0R3M1X3D

L34K3D.

Still on Interscope, so no innovative release experiments like he did with Saul Williams or anti-label f*ck you like he did with the Broken and Closure DVD torrents - according to that wikipedia article this is the final contractual obligation before he left.

# Zero Sum: Stephen Morris & Gillian Gilbert

?!?

according to that wikipedia article this is the final contractual obligation before he left.

Still, there are some decent-to-exciting names in that list (Fennesz!) and I must admit I'm looking forward to fiddling around with the multitracks. Hopefully this will turn out closer to Further Down the Spiral than Things Fall Apart.

track 11 (very minimalistic) : 14 minutes!

01. Guns By Computer (Saul Williams) (1:43)
02. The Great Destroyer (Modwheelmood) (4:19)
03. My Violent Heart (Pirate Robot Midget) (2:34)
04. The Beginning of the End (Ladytron) (4:20)
05. Survivalism (Saul Williams) (4:19)
06. Capital G (Epworth Phones) (7:26)
07. Vessel (Bill Laswell) (6:10)
08. The Warning (Stefan Goodchild Featuring Doudou N'Diaye Rose) (3:43)
09. Meet Your Master (The Faint) (3:35)
10. God Given (Stephen Morris and Gillian Gilbert) (4:27)
11. Me, I'm Not (Olof Dreijer) (14:00)
12. Another Version of the Truth (Kronos Quartet and Enrique Gonzalez Muller) (4:25)
13. In This Twilight (Fennesz) (4:37)
14. Zero-Sum (Stephen Morris and Gillian Gilbert) (5:38)

Okay I am totally geeked that half of New Order is remixing some of this stuff.

I listened to Year Zero again for the first time in several months and it actually clicked! I was pleasantly surprised.

ok, this is pretty great.

Lol, Universal.

http://www.nin.com/index.html#1125746261486643743

(in short: letting fans download the individual tracks of his songs for remixing is okay, hosting the fans' remixes is a DMCA violation, so the remix site stays offline)

go trent.

Picked up the remix disc, like it well enough so far. Pirate Robot Midget of "My Violent Heart" = pretty good!

So I've been playing the shit out of this remix disc because it is mind-bogglingly superior to the original album on almost every level. "The Great Destroyer" and "Capital G" on here are so fucking tough.

I need to give it a relisten. Great way to kiss off the majors at least.

i never heard this but i downloaded a 24GB Nine Inch Nails file with everything you can imagine on it.Took about 2 months to get it all.They were amazing in concert this time around but didn't draw a very big crowd.Glad i went.Anyway i'm on to listen to the remix thing.

more people need to listen to this remix album to revel in its glory with me

I will freely admit the original version of "God Given" is way more effective, though

Year Zero is my least favorite NIN album and I don't care about the remixers on this. Should I bother anyway?

several months later, but YES (esp. "The Great Destroyer" and "Capital G")

so a random song came on the Last.fm station I created based on my Sony music festival and I am sitting here going "who is this super cool A Perfect Circle tribute band, this is a v v pretty song" and it is Modwheelmood, the dudes who did my favorite remix on the Year Zero remix album

Trent Reznor says HBO and BBC Worldwide Productions are moving forward with the development of “Year Zero,” the grim sci-fi epic that Reznor has chronicled in his music as well as in a celebrated Alternate Reality Game (ARG).

“We are in [the development phase of] pre-production with HBO and BBC [Worldwide Productions] to do a miniseries,” Reznor said Monday. “It’s exciting. I probably shouldn’t say too much about it except that I understand that there’s a thousand hurdles before anything shows up in your TV listing. It’s been an interesting and very educational process and it cleared the HBO hurdle a few months ago and now we’re writing drafts back and forth. So it’s very much alive and incubating at the moment.”

btw this album is great

Yes! I always had a soft spot for Capital G even though it’s dated af lyrically now but My Violent Heart and Survivalism are still up there.

Also, The Great Destroyer

The Fennesz remix of In This Twilight is all time for me. Should have been the version on the album proper imho

Yeah I think I liked the remix album better than the original